Morgan

Did you ever see the article "Blonde-haired heroes, Brown-haired losers"
by Hannah M.G. Shapero? She wrote it a number of years ago, only
partially tongue in cheek. In fact, it was so many years ago that now
I'm not sure that;s the exact title. It's something like that. Or maybe
it was "Brown-eyed losers; grey-eyed heroes."
*************
blessed be, Julianne

eigon wrote:
> Following on, I've just been reading The Tough Guide to Fantasyland by
> Diana Wynne Jones. There's a bit about recognising what the characters
> are like by colour coding, black being Evil, of course.
> However, "grey eyes mean POWER or healing abilities and will be
> reassuring...." and fair hair is always Good, especially if it's
> silver-blonde.
> Does this remind anyone of anyone?
> (Doesn't work for the Haldanes, though)
>
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in article da0acf801bc77fb4b720a2637ab8d0c1.RemoveThis@localhost.talkaboutabook.com,
eigon at hayarts.RemoveThis@tiscali.co.uk wrote on 11/22/04 11:07 AM:

> Following on, I've just been reading The Tough Guide to Fantasyland by
> Diana Wynne Jones. There's a bit about recognising what the characters
> are like by colour coding, black being Evil, of course.
> However, "grey eyes mean POWER or healing abilities and will be
> reassuring...." and fair hair is always Good, especially if it's
> silver-blonde.
> Does this remind anyone of anyone?
> (Doesn't work for the Haldanes, though)
>

As a dark haired person, I say "hrumpf" to "fair hair is always Good."

Just my opinion of course...

Marion
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In article <da0acf801bc77fb4b720a2637ab8d0c1 DeleteThis @localhost.talkaboutabook.com>,
hayarts DeleteThis @tiscali.co.uk (eigon) wrote:

> Following on, I've just been reading The Tough Guide to Fantasyland by
> Diana Wynne Jones. There's a bit about recognising what the characters
> are like by colour coding, black being Evil, of course.
> However, "grey eyes mean POWER or healing abilities and will be
> reassuring...." and fair hair is always Good, especially if it's
> silver-blonde.
> Does this remind anyone of anyone?
> (Doesn't work for the Haldanes, though)
>

And, even after fourteen Tours, we still haven't visited every single place
on the Map.

Peter Wilkinson
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On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 21:10:28 GMT, Marion <snuffybear DeleteThis @snet.net> wrote:

>in article da0acf801bc77fb4b720a2637ab8d0c1 DeleteThis @localhost.talkaboutabook.com,
>eigon at hayarts DeleteThis @tiscali.co.uk wrote on 11/22/04 11:07 AM:
>
>> Following on, I've just been reading The Tough Guide to Fantasyland by
>> Diana Wynne Jones. There's a bit about recognising what the characters
>> are like by colour coding, black being Evil, of course.
>> However, "grey eyes mean POWER or healing abilities and will be
>> reassuring...." and fair hair is always Good, especially if it's
>> silver-blonde.
>> Does this remind anyone of anyone?
>> (Doesn't work for the Haldanes, though)
>>
>
>As a dark haired person, I say "hrumpf" to "fair hair is always Good."
>
>Just my opinion of course...
>
...and what about gray hair!? (or is that grey...?)



--

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I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America,
and to the republic which it established, one nation from many peoples,
promising liberty and justice for all.
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in article Vf2dnUGTWdRpDT_cRVn-sA RemoveThis @rcn.net, Julianne Toomey-Kautz at
JulianneTK RemoveThis @Kautzlaw.com wrote on 11/22/04 8:22 PM:

> Did you ever see the article "Blonde-haired heroes, Brown-haired losers"
> by Hannah M.G. Shapero? She wrote it a number of years ago, only
> partially tongue in cheek. In fact, it was so many years ago that now
> I'm not sure that;s the exact title. It's something like that. Or maybe
> it was "Brown-eyed losers; grey-eyed heroes."
> *************
> blessed be, Julianne

Either way - forget it!

Marion, of the brown eyed, brown haired people...
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Marion wrote:

>>Did you ever see the article "Blonde-haired heroes, Brown-haired losers"
>>by Hannah M.G. Shapero? <SNIP> Or maybe it was "Brown-eyed losers; grey-eyed heroes."
>>*************
>>blessed be, Julianne
>
>
> Either way - forget it!
>
> Marion, of the brown eyed, brown haired people...

Me, too, Marion. Hannah was commenting on the sheer silliness of the
proliferation of fantasy heroes/heroines with unusual hair or eye color.

We brown-haired/brown-eyed people can console ourselves by remembering
that Dom Queron, that legend in his own lifetime, was brown-haired and
brown-eyed.
***************
blessed be, Julianne
>
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in article cZidnb2AxfNqdD7cRVn-1A.TakeThisOut@rcn.net, Julianne Toomey-Kautz at
JulianneTK.TakeThisOut@Kautzlaw.com wrote on 11/23/04 8:55 PM:

> Me, too, Marion. Hannah was commenting on the sheer silliness of the
> proliferation of fantasy heroes/heroines with unusual hair or eye color.
>
> We brown-haired/brown-eyed people can console ourselves by remembering
> that Dom Queron, that legend in his own lifetime, was brown-haired and
> brown-eyed.
> ***************
> blessed be, Julianne
>>
There you go - we're in good company! (Queron is pretty high on my "what
happened to him" list. I wonder if we'll find out in the book about
948...He's an intriguing character.)

Marion
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Marion <snuffybear DeleteThis @snet.net> wrote in message
news:BDC91F8C.E6BF%snuffybear@snet.net...
> in article Vf2dnUGTWdRpDT_cRVn-sA DeleteThis @rcn.net, Julianne Toomey-Kautz at
> JulianneTK DeleteThis @Kautzlaw.com wrote on 11/22/04 8:22 PM:
>
> > Did you ever see the article "Blonde-haired heroes, Brown-haired losers"
> > by Hannah M.G. Shapero? She wrote it a number of years ago, only
> > partially tongue in cheek. In fact, it was so many years ago that now
> > I'm not sure that;s the exact title. It's something like that. Or maybe
> > it was "Brown-eyed losers; grey-eyed heroes."
> > *************
> > blessed be, Julianne
>
> Either way - forget it!
>
> Marion, of the brown eyed, brown haired people...
>
We-elll...... Kelson does spend three years mooning over a brown-eyed black
haired woman with an olive complexion. =o) Duchess Meraude also has brown
eyes, as I recall. However, they need company. And they need some good guys
who DON'T look as if they're medieval Ralph Lauren models. <G>

Melissa
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The Tough Guide to Fantasyland actually doesn't work very well for the
Deryni novels, mainly because it's poking fun at all the cliches of the
genre - which is why I thought the grey-eyed, blonde haired, healing
ability bit was amusing.
It just goes to show that KK is one of the superior fantasy writers who
doesn't indulge in cheap cliche.
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In article <029bcdafd2ef75bccf5362079c483839.TakeThisOut@localhost.talkaboutabook.com>,
hayarts.TakeThisOut@tiscali.co.uk (eigon) wrote:

> The Tough Guide to Fantasyland actually doesn't work very well for the
> Deryni novels, mainly because it's poking fun at all the cliches of the
> genre - which is why I thought the grey-eyed, blonde haired, healing
> ability bit was amusing.
> It just goes to show that KK is one of the superior fantasy writers who
> doesn't indulge in cheap cliche.
>

Perhaps even more relevantly, when KK was writing the early Deryni novels,
genre fantasy didn't yet exist. When one spots apparent genre clichés in KK's
work (and some certainly occur), chances are that she should be demanding
patent licensing payments from today's fantasy writers.

Peter Wilkinson
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I thought Dom Queron's hair was auburn when he was younger and was silvered
by the last time we've seen him so far (TBP).

Including myself in the brown-eyed brunette category,
DR
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DesertRose wrote:
> I thought Dom Queron's hair was auburn when he was younger and was silvered
> by the last time we've seen him so far (TBP).

Perhaps, but weren't his eyes brown?

Auburn's just a fancy name for brown with a bit of red...
>
> Including myself in the brown-eyed brunette category,
> DR
>
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KK said in Deryni Archives (The book, not the mag) that she figures out how
Alaric and Duncan are descended from Camber. I haven't foul=nd that but I
know Duncan was.

In order:

Camber, Evaine, Rhysel, Tiphane, Fane, Tambert,
Adelicia, Andrew, Jared, Duncan, Dhugal

Kelson is also a child of Camber:

Camber, Evaine, Rhysel, Tiphane, Swynbeth,
Urien, Malcolm, Donal, Brion, Kelson

Rebecca Davis web site:
http://www.mindspring.com/~rebldavis/sur.html
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