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Since: Mar 03, 2004 Posts: 31
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(Msg. 16) Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 3:06 pm
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Mar 6, 2004, 12:06pm (CST+15) From: mcclue DeleteThis @hotmail.com
(Patrick=A0McClue) "George Rodd" <SUPREMERANGER DeleteThis @webtv.net> wrote in
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5, 2004, 12:23pm (CST-2) From: gls3609479 DeleteThis @yahoo.com (Glenn Simpson)
SUPREMERANGER DeleteThis @webtv.net (George Rodd) wrote in message
news:<3071-40468CDF-34 DeleteThis @storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net>... Why not have
some of the Mutants get mutated by science, then later get their powers
permently magically enhanced, like say Beast was summoned by Dr.
Strange, and Dr. Strange used his magic to boost Beast's powers beyond
what he can thru regular mutations! What do you feel out this idea? Time
to be evil!! Why would that happen? Ok lets say an enemy of the XMen is
too strong for them and the enemy hurts Beast, he ends up on doorstep of
his friend Dr. Strange, who heals him thru magic, and Beast asks him to
strengthen his mutant power beyond what he could get thru regular
mutation, thru magic Dr. Strange could fix it so Beast can use his
powers in many different ways, then he kicks enemy butt! Time to be
evil!! Beast's mutation is strength, super senses, and a non-human
physiology. How would magic make him use these powers in different ways?
I can see him becoming stronger, but different? Do you want Dr. Strange
to give him a different set of powers are the ability to detach his
claws and use them as projectiles? Cover his enemies in nasty, giant
furballs?  Patrick
Yes, I want him to be able to detach his and use them as projectiles,
also yes on giant furballs, also I want his to have the ability to
absorb energy and redistribute it to all portions of himself!
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 4:24 pm
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On 6 Mar 2004 04:48:12 GMT, Dan McEwen <dannyboymcny DeleteThis @hotmail.com>
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>clJUNKv1@balcab.ch (CleV) wrote in
>news:4047a73a.4893546@news.hispeed.ch:
>> On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 08:17:30 -0000, "Brian Doyle"
>> <No_spam DeleteThis @freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>>>"George Rodd" <SUPREMERANGER DeleteThis @webtv.net> wrote in message
>>>news:3071-40468CDF-34@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net...
>>>> Why not have some of the Mutants get mutated by science, then later
>>>> get their powers permently magically enhanced, like say Beast was
>>>> summoned by Dr. Strange, and Dr. Strange used his magic to boost
>>>> Beast's powers beyond what he can thru regular mutations! What do
>>>> you feel out this idea?
>>>Bored rigid, to be honest.
>> Come now, with a little latitude, that's exactly the origins of Magik,
>> and the Scarlet Witch!
>I think with Wanda, her powers just work best with natural substances -
>just like magic. As for Illyana, her teleportation powers somehow
>linked with Limbo, but probably because she was there and learning to
>use the power of that realm. Even so, what you're saying is
>considerably different than what George is suggesting. (I realize you know
>this from your smilely, but his ideas really are inane.)
Actually, I've realised that I misinterpreted what George wrote, but
let me explain where I was coming from ...
Both Wanda and Illyana are mutants - mutations which arise from the
tinkering of the Celestials (= George's "mutated through science"
bit). Note that both are part of families with a genetic
predisposition to mutancy, and Wanda at least was created when
mutation was effected by nuclar radiation.
Wanda's powers were changed (= George's "permanently magically
enhanced") by Cthon at birth so that she became a wielder of magic
instead of energy (source: Kurt Busiek)
Illyana always had the link with Limbo through being able to control
the stepping disks - that was why Belasco selected her as his way to
Earth. And she did learn magic there (= George's "permanently
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 5:14 pm
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"George Rodd" <SUPREMERANGER.TakeThisOut@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Re: Mutations and Magic Group: rec.arts.comics.marvel.xbooks Date: Sat,
Mar 6, 2004, 12:06pm (CST+15) From: mcclue.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com
(Patrick McClue) "George Rodd" <SUPREMERANGER.TakeThisOut@webtv.net> wrote in
message news:17587-4048F11C-343@storefull-3176.bay.webtv.net... Re:
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5, 2004, 12:23pm (CST-2) From: gls3609479.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com (Glenn Simpson)
SUPREMERANGER.TakeThisOut@webtv.net (George Rodd) wrote in message
news:<3071-40468CDF-34.TakeThisOut@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net>... Why not have
some of the Mutants get mutated by science, then later get their powers
permently magically enhanced, like say Beast was summoned by Dr.
Strange, and Dr. Strange used his magic to boost Beast's powers beyond
what he can thru regular mutations! What do you feel out this idea? Time
to be evil!! Why would that happen? Ok lets say an enemy of the XMen is
too strong for them and the enemy hurts Beast, he ends up on doorstep of
his friend Dr. Strange, who heals him thru magic, and Beast asks him to
strengthen his mutant power beyond what he could get thru regular
mutation, thru magic Dr. Strange could fix it so Beast can use his
powers in many different ways, then he kicks enemy butt! Time to be
evil!! Beast's mutation is strength, super senses, and a non-human
physiology. How would magic make him use these powers in different ways?
I can see him becoming stronger, but different? Do you want Dr. Strange
to give him a different set of powers are the ability to detach his
claws and use them as projectiles? Cover his enemies in nasty, giant
furballs?  Patrick
Yes, I want him to be able to detach his and use them as projectiles,
also yes on giant furballs, also I want his to have the ability to
absorb energy and redistribute it to all portions of himself!
Time to be evil!!
Sounds great! BTW, did you try to pitch any of your thoughts back when Epic
was taking submissions?
Patrick >> Stay informed about: Mutations and Magic |
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 5:14 pm
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Group: rec.arts.comics.marvel.xbooks Date: Sat, Mar 6, 2004, 2:14pm
(CST+15) From: mcclue.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com (Patrick=A0McClue)
"George Rodd" <SUPREMERANGER.TakeThisOut@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:24689-404955C0-76@storefull-3177.bay.webtv.net... Re: Mutations and
Magic Group: rec.arts.comics.marvel.xbooks Date: Sat, Mar 6, 2004,
12:06pm (CST+15) From: mcclue.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com (Patrick McClue) "George Rodd"
<SUPREMERANGER.TakeThisOut@webtv.net> wrote in message
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12:23pm (CST-2) From: gls3609479.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com (Glenn Simpson)
SUPREMERANGER.TakeThisOut@webtv.net (George Rodd) wrote in message
news:<3071-40468CDF-34.TakeThisOut@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net>... Why not have
some of the Mutants get mutated by science, then later get their powers
permently magically enhanced, like say Beast was summoned by Dr.
Strange, and Dr. Strange used his magic to boost Beast's powers beyond
what he can thru regular mutations! What do you feel out this idea? Time
to be evil!! Why would that happen? Ok lets say an enemy of the XMen is
too strong for them and the enemy hurts Beast, he ends up on doorstep of
his friend Dr. Strange, who heals him thru magic, and Beast asks him to
strengthen his mutant power beyond what he could get thru regular
mutation, thru magic Dr. Strange could fix it so Beast can use his
powers in many different ways, then he kicks enemy butt! Time to be
evil!! Beast's mutation is strength, super senses, and a non-human
physiology. How would magic make him use these powers in different ways?
I can see him becoming stronger, but different? Do you want Dr. Strange
to give him a different set of powers are the ability to detach his
claws and use them as projectiles? Cover his enemies in nasty, giant
furballs?  Patrick Yes, I want him to be able to detach his and use
them as projectiles, also yes on giant furballs, also I want his to have
the ability to absorb energy and redistribute it to all portions of
himself! Time to be evil!! Sounds great! BTW, did you try to pitch any
of your thoughts back when Epic was taking submissions?  Patrick
I don't know how to get in contact with Epic!
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 7:52 pm
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Re: Mutations and Magic Group: rec.arts.comics.marvel.xbooks Date: Sat,
Mar 6, 2004, 1:24pm (CST+6) From: clJUNKv1 RemoveThis @balcab.ch (CleV) On 6 Mar
2004 04:48:12 GMT, Dan McEwen <dannyboymcny RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
clJUNKv1 RemoveThis @balcab.ch (CleV) wrote in
news:4047a73a.4893546@news.hispeed.ch: On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 08:17:30
-0000, "Brian Doyle" <No_spam RemoveThis @freeserve.co.uk> wrote: "George Rodd"
<SUPREMERANGER RemoveThis @webtv.net> wrote in message
news:3071-40468CDF-34@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net... Why not have some
of the Mutants get mutated by science, then later get their powers
permently magically enhanced, like say Beast was summoned by Dr.
Strange, and Dr. Strange used his magic to boost Beast's powers beyond
what he can thru regular mutations! What do you feel out this idea?
Bored rigid, to be honest. Come now, with a little latitude, that's
exactly the origins of Magik, and the Scarlet Witch!  I think with
Wanda, her powers just work best with natural substances - just like
magic. As for Illyana, her teleportation powers somehow linked with
Limbo, but probably because she was there and learning to use the power
of that realm. Even so, what you're saying is considerably different
than what George is suggesting. (I realize you know this from your
smilely, but his ideas really are inane.) Actually, I've realised that I
misinterpreted what George wrote, but let me explain where I was coming
from ... Both Wanda and Illyana are mutants - mutations which arise from
the tinkering of the Celestials (= George's "mutated through science"
bit). Note that both are part of families with a genetic predisposition
to mutancy, and Wanda at least was created when mutation was effected by
nuclar radiation. Wanda's powers were changed (= George's "permanently
magically enhanced") by Cthon at birth so that she became a wielder of
magic instead of energy (source: Kurt Busiek) Illyana always had the
link with Limbo through being able to control the stepping disks - that
was why Belasco selected her as his way to Earth. And she did learn
magic there (= George's "permanently magically enhanced") ...
What bout Shaman's daughter Talisman who is a Mutant but her power is
magic thru mutation!
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 9:28 pm
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"George Rodd" <SUPREMERANGER RemoveThis @webtv.net> wrote in message
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(CST+15) From: mcclue RemoveThis @hotmail.com (Patrick McClue)
"George Rodd" <SUPREMERANGER RemoveThis @webtv.net> wrote in message
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12:06pm (CST+15) From: mcclue RemoveThis @hotmail.com (Patrick McClue) "George Rodd"
<SUPREMERANGER RemoveThis @webtv.net> wrote in message
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12:23pm (CST-2) From: gls3609479 RemoveThis @yahoo.com (Glenn Simpson)
SUPREMERANGER RemoveThis @webtv.net (George Rodd) wrote in message
news:<3071-40468CDF-34 RemoveThis @storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net>... Why not have
some of the Mutants get mutated by science, then later get their powers
permently magically enhanced, like say Beast was summoned by Dr.
Strange, and Dr. Strange used his magic to boost Beast's powers beyond
what he can thru regular mutations! What do you feel out this idea? Time
to be evil!! Why would that happen? Ok lets say an enemy of the XMen is
too strong for them and the enemy hurts Beast, he ends up on doorstep of
his friend Dr. Strange, who heals him thru magic, and Beast asks him to
strengthen his mutant power beyond what he could get thru regular
mutation, thru magic Dr. Strange could fix it so Beast can use his
powers in many different ways, then he kicks enemy butt! Time to be
evil!! Beast's mutation is strength, super senses, and a non-human
physiology. How would magic make him use these powers in different ways?
I can see him becoming stronger, but different? Do you want Dr. Strange
to give him a different set of powers are the ability to detach his
claws and use them as projectiles? Cover his enemies in nasty, giant
furballs?  Patrick Yes, I want him to be able to detach his and use
them as projectiles, also yes on giant furballs, also I want his to have
the ability to absorb energy and redistribute it to all portions of
himself! Time to be evil!! Sounds great! BTW, did you try to pitch any
of your thoughts back when Epic was taking submissions?  Patrick
I don't know how to get in contact with Epic!
Time to be evil!!
It's too late now. The Epic line got the boot with Jemas.
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 2:51 am
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"George Rodd" <SUPREMERANGER.TakeThisOut@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> What bout Shaman's daughter Talisman who is a Mutant but her power is
> magic thru mutation!
As far as I recall Talisman is not a mutant, not has she ever been. Her
power to disrupt and manipulate other peoples magic, whilst having none of
her own, is purely a result of her being born the daughter of the Shaman.
She needed the headpiece from her fathers medecine pouch to tap into her
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 5:28 am
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clJUNKv1 DeleteThis @balcab.ch (CleV) wrote in
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> Illyana always had the link with Limbo through being able to control
> the stepping disks - that was why Belasco selected her as his way to
> Earth. And she did learn magic there (= George's "permanently
> magically enhanced") ...
I'm not sure I agree with you here. Illyana never displayed an ability
to control the stepping disks prior to the onset of her mutant powers
during adolescence. After Illyana reverted to a child once more, we had
the story fairly early in X-Men (currently New X-Men) about the Russians
wanting to abduct Illyana because she was supposed to be pretty
powerful. There's no doubt Illyana would be a teleporter. What's in
doubt is that she would always have tapped into Limbo. Besides, Belasco
had at least one other apprentice he'd selected (some girl from the
Savage Land, IIRC), but she didn't work out, either.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Mutations and Magic |
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 5:33 am
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On 7 Mar 2004 02:28:15 GMT, Dan McEwen <dannyboymcny.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>clJUNKv1@balcab.ch (CleV) wrote in
>news:4049cf18.4920573@news.hispeed.ch:
>> Illyana always had the link with Limbo through being able to control
>> the stepping disks - that was why Belasco selected her as his way to
>> Earth. And she did learn magic there (= George's "permanently
>> magically enhanced") ...
>I'm not sure I agree with you here. Illyana never displayed an ability
>to control the stepping disks prior to the onset of her mutant powers
>during adolescence.
My bad phrasing. I meant that the power to control the stepping disks
was always Illyana's mutant power.
>After Illyana reverted to a child once more, we had
>the story fairly early in X-Men (currently New X-Men) about the Russians
>wanting to abduct Illyana because she was supposed to be pretty
>powerful. There's no doubt Illyana would be a teleporter. What's in
>doubt is that she would always have tapped into Limbo. Besides, Belasco
>had at least one other apprentice he'd selected (some girl from the
>Savage Land, IIRC), but she didn't work out, either.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Mutations and Magic |
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 3:03 am
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clJUNKv1 RemoveThis @balcab.ch (CleV) wrote in
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> On 7 Mar 2004 02:28:15 GMT, Dan McEwen <dannyboymcny RemoveThis @hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>clJUNKv1@balcab.ch (CleV) wrote in
>>news:4049cf18.4920573@news.hispeed.ch:
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>>> Illyana always had the link with Limbo through being able to control
>>> the stepping disks - that was why Belasco selected her as his way to
>>> Earth. And she did learn magic there (= George's "permanently
>>> magically enhanced") ...
>
>>I'm not sure I agree with you here. Illyana never displayed an
>>ability to control the stepping disks prior to the onset of her mutant
>>powers during adolescence.
>
> My bad phrasing. I meant that the power to control the stepping disks
> was always Illyana's mutant power.
I got that, but I don't agree. I think Illyana's mutation was possibly
altered due to her links with Limbo. >> Stay informed about: Mutations and Magic |
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(Msg. 26) Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 3:29 pm
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Dan McEwen wrote:
>>>> Illyana always had the link with Limbo through being able to control
>>>> the stepping disks - that was why Belasco selected her as his way to
>>>> Earth. And she did learn magic there (= George's "permanently
>>>> magically enhanced") ...
>>>
>>> I'm not sure I agree with you here. Illyana never displayed an
>>> ability to control the stepping disks prior to the onset of her mutant
>>> powers during adolescence.
>>
>> My bad phrasing. I meant that the power to control the stepping disks
>> was always Illyana's mutant power.
>
> I got that, but I don't agree. I think Illyana's mutation was possibly
> altered due to her links with Limbo.
It's certainly possible, but unfortunately, no evidence exists, either way.
-=[ The BlakGard ]=-
"Somewhere there's danger;
somewhere there's injustice,
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(Msg. 27) Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 4:33 pm
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Dan McEwen <dannyboymcny.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> clJUNKv1.RemoveThis@balcab.ch (CleV) wrote in
> news:404a89d1.22846361@news.hispeed.ch:
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>> On 7 Mar 2004 02:28:15 GMT, Dan McEwen <dannyboymcny.RemoveThis@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>clJUNKv1@balcab.ch (CleV) wrote in
>>>news:4049cf18.4920573@news.hispeed.ch:
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>>>> Illyana always had the link with Limbo through being able to
>>>> control the stepping disks - that was why Belasco selected her as
>>>> his way to Earth. And she did learn magic there (= George's
>>>> "permanently magically enhanced") ...
>>
>>>I'm not sure I agree with you here. Illyana never displayed an
>>>ability to control the stepping disks prior to the onset of her
>>>mutant powers during adolescence.
>>
>> My bad phrasing. I meant that the power to control the stepping
>> disks was always Illyana's mutant power.
>
> I got that, but I don't agree. I think Illyana's mutation was
> possibly altered due to her links with Limbo.
I was going to say something along the lines of it being unlikely that
she'd link to a specific dimension this way, but the evidence is against
me. Nearly every other teleporter is linked to the dark dimension, so I
guess it's very possible that Illyana was linked to Limbo because her
power also crossed time barriers. Since Locus was similar in this
respect, I wonder if she also made use of Limbo's stepping disks? >> Stay informed about: Mutations and Magic |
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(Msg. 28) Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 6:17 pm
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On 8 Mar 2004 16:33:17 GMT, Dan McEwen <dannyboymcny RemoveThis @hotmail.com>
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>Dan McEwen <dannyboymcny RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in
>news:c2gnqt$1t7hat$5@ID-177615.news.uni-berlin.de:
>> clJUNKv1 RemoveThis @balcab.ch (CleV) wrote in
>> news:404a89d1.22846361@news.hispeed.ch:
>>> On 7 Mar 2004 02:28:15 GMT, Dan McEwen <dannyboymcny RemoveThis @hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>clJUNKv1@balcab.ch (CleV) wrote in
>>>>news:4049cf18.4920573@news.hispeed.ch:
>>>>> Illyana always had the link with Limbo through being able to
>>>>> control the stepping disks - that was why Belasco selected her as
>>>>> his way to Earth. And she did learn magic there (= George's
>>>>> "permanently magically enhanced") ...
>>>>I'm not sure I agree with you here. Illyana never displayed an
>>>>ability to control the stepping disks prior to the onset of her
>>>>mutant powers during adolescence.
>>> My bad phrasing. I meant that the power to control the stepping
>>> disks was always Illyana's mutant power.
>> I got that, but I don't agree. I think Illyana's mutation was
>> possibly altered due to her links with Limbo.
>I was going to say something along the lines of it being unlikely that
>she'd link to a specific dimension this way,
I was going to make a comment about this too, but decided against it.
It's true - it's like the proverbial making-a-spot-on-the-wall mutant
power in a world where there are no walls.
>but the evidence is against
>me. Nearly every other teleporter is linked to the dark dimension, so I
>guess it's very possible that Illyana was linked to Limbo because her
>power also crossed time barriers. Since Locus was similar in this
>respect, I wonder if she also made use of Limbo's stepping disks? >> Stay informed about: Mutations and Magic |
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Mar 8, 2004, 4:33pm (CST+6) From: dannyboymcny RemoveThis @hotmail.com
(Dan McEwen) Dan McEwen <dannyboymcny RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in
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clJUNKv1 RemoveThis @balcab.ch (CleV) wrote in
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McEwen <dannyboymcny RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
clJUNKv1 RemoveThis @balcab.ch (CleV) wrote in
news:4049cf18.4920573@news.hispeed.ch: Illyana always had the link with
Limbo through being able to control the stepping disks - that was why
Belasco selected her as his way to Earth. And she did learn magic there
(= George's "permanently magically enhanced") ... I'm not sure I agree
with you here. Illyana never displayed an ability to control the
stepping disks prior to the onset of her mutant powers during
adolescence. My bad phrasing. I meant that the power to control the
stepping disks was always Illyana's mutant power. I got that, but I
don't agree. I think Illyana's mutation was possibly altered due to her
links with Limbo. I was going to say something along the lines of it
being unlikely that she'd link to a specific dimension this way, but the
evidence is against me. Nearly every other teleporter is linked to the
dark dimension, so I guess it's very possible that Illyana was linked to
Limbo because her power also crossed time barriers. Since Locus was
similar in this respect, I wonder if she also made use of Limbo's
stepping disks?
What about the effects of the Evolutionary bomb that didn't go off in
the regular Marvel Universe but did go off in the WhatIf Universe, how
did this affect Mutants in that reality?
Time to be evil!! >> Stay informed about: Mutations and Magic |
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(Msg. 30) Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 7:47 am
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SUPREMERANGER DeleteThis @webtv.net (George Rodd) wrote in
news:1293-405282AE-95@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net:
> What about the effects of the Evolutionary bomb that didn't go off in
> the regular Marvel Universe but did go off in the WhatIf Universe, how
> did this affect Mutants in that reality?
It just led to all of humanity (mutants included) evolving into
mentally-heightened and physically-depleted people. (Me, I never
understood why you couldn't have both the mental and physical aspects.) >> Stay informed about: Mutations and Magic |
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