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megatron

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 8:29 pm
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Does anyone know the meaning/origin or reference of this word:
Naminedamine from the chapter Sirens?

Thanks

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 4:49 am
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On 29/2/04 12:29 PM, in article
b25e80e1.0402281729.705324b5.TakeThisOut@posting.google.com, "Meghan" <megatron.TakeThisOut@nyu.edu>
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 > Does anyone know the meaning/origin or reference of this word:
 > Naminedamine from the chapter Sirens?
 >
 > Thanks

Isn't it a 'corruption' of nomine domine i.e. The name of God in Latin?


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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 1:13 am
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  > > Does anyone know the meaning/origin or reference of this word:
  > > Naminedamine from the chapter Sirens?
  > >
  > > Thanks
 >
 > Isn't it a 'corruption' of nomine domine i.e. The name of God in Latin?
 >

Most assuredly. As in the old comedy routine (whose was that, anyway?) with
the punchline, "Dominy, dominy, dominy, you're all Catholics now!" If only
more references were that easy.

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 11:23 am
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David Heath <drheath.TakeThisOut@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

   > > > Does anyone know the meaning/origin or reference of this word:
   > > > Naminedamine from the chapter Sirens?
   > > >
   > > > Thanks
  > >
  > > Isn't it a 'corruption' of nomine domine i.e. The name of God in Latin?
  > >
 >
 > Most assuredly. As in the old comedy routine (whose was that, anyway?)

Father Corona (with an Irish accent). 'Temporarily Humboldt County'.
_Waiting for the Electrician (or Someone Like Him)_. Firesign Theatre.
1968.

 > with
 > the punchline, "Dominy, dominy, dominy, you're all Catholics now!" If only
 > more references were that easy.
 >
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 8:44 pm
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Meghan:

   > > > > Does anyone know the meaning/origin or reference of this word:
   > > > > Naminedamine from the chapter Sirens?
---------------------------------
But wait!

Low in dark middle earth. Embedded ore.

Naminedamine. Preacher is he.
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  >> Peter Renshw wrote:

   > > > Isn't it a 'corruption' of nomine domine i.e. The name of God in
Latin?

 > David Heath <drheath.DeleteThis@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
 >
  > > Most assuredly. As in the old comedy routine (whose was that, anyway?)

"Henry" <henry999.DeleteThis@eircom.net> wrote

 > Father Corona (with an Irish accent). 'Temporarily Humboldt County'.
 > _Waiting for the Electrician (or Someone Like Him)_. Firesign Theatre.
 > 1968.
 >
  > > with
  > > the punchline, "Dominy, dominy, dominy, you're all Catholics now!"
  > >If only more references were that easy.
  > >
  > > David
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Advanced notes for Ulysses ch11 (Sirens)
Jorn Barger Feb2000 (updated Feb2001)
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.robotwisdom.com/jaj/ulysses/notes11.html#954" target="_blank">http://www.robotwisdom.com/jaj/ulysses/notes11.html#954</a>

"The Croppy Boy"
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.ingeb.org/songs/croppy.mid" target="_blank">http://www.ingeb.org/songs/croppy.mid</a>
lyric:

"Good men and true! in this house who dwell,
To a stranger bouchal I pray you tell
Is the priest at home? or may he be seen?
I would speak a word with Father Green."
"The Priest's at home, boy, and may be seen:
'Tis easy speaking with Father Green;
But you must wait, till I go and see
If the holy father alone may be."

The youth has entered an empty hall--
What a lonely sound has his light foot-fall!
And the gloomy chamber's still and bare,
With a vested Priest in a lonely chair.

The youth has knelt to tell his sins;
"Nomine Dei," the youth begins:
At "mea culpa" he beats his breast,
And in broken murmurs he speaks the rest.

"At the siege of Ross did my father fall,
And at Gorey my loving brothers all.
I alone am left of my name and race,
I will go to Wexford and take their place."

"I cursed three times since last Easter day--
At mass-time once I went to play:
I passed the churchyard one day in haste,
And forgot to pray for my mother's rest.

"I bear no hate against living thing;
But I love my country above my King.
Now, Father bless me, and let me go
To die in battle, if God has ordained it so."

The Priest said nought, but a rustling noise
Made the youth look above in wild surprise;
The robes were off, and in scarlet there
Sat a yeoman captain with fiery glare.

With fiery glare and with fury hoarse,
Instead of blessing, he breathed a curse:
"'Twas a good thought, boy, to come here and shrive,
For one short hour is your time to live."

"Upon yon river three tenders float,
The Priest's in one, if he isn't shot--
We hold this house for our Lord and King,
And, Amen! say I, may all traitors swing!"

At Geneva Barrack that young man died,
And at Passage they have his body laid.
Good people who live in peace and joy,
Breathe a prayer and a tear for the Croppy boy.

this was a song Joyce often sang, eg at the 27Aug 1904 concert-fiasco that
inspired "A Mother" (where he had to accompany himself) [cpc45]
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