Nit-picking

mike weber wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 07:32:54 -0700, Offbreed
> <offbreed_106 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> mike weber wrote:
>>> On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 19:24:46 +0000, "David Wright Sr."
>>> <dwrightsr RemoveThis @alltel.net> wrote:
>>>> Hazel to Castor in _The Rolling Stones_ when they were recovering the bicyles
>>>> they had jettisoned.
>>>>
>>> Right.
>>>
>>> But i think there's something similar in "Delilah...", too.
>>>
>> I still haven't figured where the note came from.
>
>
> Seems to me that there's a scene of Hazel acting extremely innocent.
>
> (Took me a minute to recall the note.)
>
I'd have to re read that part of the story, but I thought she was just
amused at the results.
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On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:06:36 -0400, mike weber <fairportfan DeleteThis @gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 17:45:36 -0700, Loren Pechtel
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>
>>On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 15:09:07 -0400, mike weber <fairportfan DeleteThis @gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>
>>>At least you're not going to bounce off the ground or float away if
>>>you forget and move too fast. (In "Moon is a Harsh Mistress",
>>>Heinlein mentions a new chum who tries to run down a ramp in Luna City
>>>and winds up floating and breaks an arm.)
>>
>>I never bought that one. You're going to fall slower than you would
>>on Earth, you have more time to arrange yourself to land properly. I
>>would expect spectacular tumbles but few broken bones.
>>
>
>Few, certainly - among people who know what's what.
>
>But this is a new chum - someone who has no idea how to handle himself
>in low-G conditions.

I don't think it's going to matter. It's not going to be that hard a
fall and you'll have time to react to it.
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On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 17:45:36 -0700, Loren Pechtel
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>On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 15:02:31 -0400, mike weber <fairportfan.RemoveThis@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 18:29:05 -0700, Loren Pechtel
>><lorenpechtel.RemoveThis@hotmail.invalid.com> wrote:
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>>>But the power coming off the generator isn't at those insane voltages.
>>>It's stepped up to those voltages to make it cheaper to send it across
>>>the country.
>>
>>Not to make it "cheaper" - to make it "possible".
>>
>>Copper losses - losses due to line resistance - vary directly as the
>>square of the current, which in turn varies inversely as the voltage
>>for the same power - power dissipated due to resistance is equal to
>>resistance times the square of current. SO if you tried to send a
>>megawatt at, say 200V, current would have to be 5000 amps.
>
>Square?!?!
>

Yup if you manipulate W = E*I (power equals voltage times current) by
inserting Ohm's Law equivalences [E = I*R] you get W = ( I^2).

The voltage drop along the line, times the current in the line
represents the amount of work done in heating the conductor, the
copper losses.

W = (I * [I*R])


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On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 17:45:36 -0700, Loren Pechtel
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>On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 15:09:07 -0400, mike weber <fairportfan.TakeThisOut@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>

>>At least you're not going to bounce off the ground or float away if
>>you forget and move too fast. (In "Moon is a Harsh Mistress",
>>Heinlein mentions a new chum who tries to run down a ramp in Luna City
>>and winds up floating and breaks an arm.)
>
>I never bought that one. You're going to fall slower than you would
>on Earth, you have more time to arrange yourself to land properly. I
>would expect spectacular tumbles but few broken bones.
>

Few, certainly - among people who know what's what.

But this is a new chum - someone who has no idea how to handle himself
in low-G conditions.

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On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 03:39:35 GMT, Brian McDonald
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>a friend of mine stopped
>in toronto at a sub shop looking out the window across the street
>watching people go by when a young man hopped over a concrete wall.
>seems there was a 30' drop on the other side of the wall but he was
>chatting with some other people and acted without thinking. poor guy
>was killed by the drop

I did something similar once - hopped a fence and discovered that
there was a six-foot or so drop on the ohter side. OTHO, there was a
drunk with a gun on the side i came from...

Manymany years ago, returning from a convention in Louisville or
Nashville, Susan and i saw a deer that had somehow gotten onto I-24 on
the Monteagle Grade.[1]

Poor thing must have come from the uphill (inner) side; it dodged and
ducked in three lanes of heavyish traffic, finally made it to theother
side, and leaped the safety barrier.

Over about a 500 foot drop.

[1] If you've ever heard the song "Legend of the Bandit" from "Smokey
and the Bandit", it doesn't exaggerate the way the the Monteagle Grade
(I-24 between Chattanooga and Nashville_) is regarded by those who
know it,.

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>>>>
>>> I still haven't figured where the note came from.
>>
>>
>> Seems to me that there's a scene of Hazel acting extremely innocent.
>>
>> (Took me a minute to recall the note.)
>>
> I'd have to re read that part of the story, but I thought she was just
> amused at the results.
>
>
Considering the 'World-as-myth' books of a later period, we can speculate
that Lazarus or Hilda or one of the other Circle of Ouroboros put it there,
maybe even John Sterling himself.

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>>
> Considering the 'World-as-myth' books of a later period, we can
> speculate that Lazarus or Hilda or one of the other Circle of Ouroboros
> put it there, maybe even John Sterling himself.
>
Sorry, meant to say "the Galactic Overlord himself".

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On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 13:08:47 -0700, Loren Pechtel
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>On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:06:36 -0400, mike weber <fairportfan.RemoveThis@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 17:45:36 -0700, Loren Pechtel
>><lorenpechtel.RemoveThis@hotmail.invalid.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 15:09:07 -0400, mike weber <fairportfan.RemoveThis@gmail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>
>>>>At least you're not going to bounce off the ground or float away if
>>>>you forget and move too fast. (In "Moon is a Harsh Mistress",
>>>>Heinlein mentions a new chum who tries to run down a ramp in Luna City
>>>>and winds up floating and breaks an arm.)
>>>
>>>I never bought that one. You're going to fall slower than you would
>>>on Earth, you have more time to arrange yourself to land properly. I
>>>would expect spectacular tumbles but few broken bones.
>>>
>>
>>Few, certainly - among people who know what's what.
>>
>>But this is a new chum - someone who has no idea how to handle himself
>>in low-G conditions.
>
>I don't think it's going to matter. It's not going to be that hard a
>fall and you'll have time to react to it.

the gravity part won't be that hard - but the forward velocity you had
before you floated is gonna still be there. i knew a guy who broke
both wrists trying to catch himself in a fall that began from less
than his full height,

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mike weber <fairportfan RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in
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> [1] If you've ever heard the song "Legend of the Bandit" from "Smokey
> and the Bandit", it doesn't exaggerate the way the the Monteagle Grade
> (I-24 between Chattanooga and Nashville_) is regarded by those who
> know it,.
>
I know it very well, both as it is today and as it was between 1958 and 1962
when I attended college at The University of the South in Sewanee about 6
miles west of Monteagle on hwy 41. In those days, before it was I-24, what is
now only the 'down' side before they built the new 'up' side on the eastern
side of the mountain, was both up and down. I had some scary rides going to
and from college on that road. Now and then a number of 18-wheelers would
lose their brakes and 'usually' were able to hit the 'runaway' exit about
half-way down the mountain. A lot of times, they missed and went over the
side. (That still happens today). Seeing one of those things coming at you in
the rear mirror can really make you nervous. These days you can move over out
of its way, but in the old days, there was no where to go without facing
oncoming traffic.

Fortunately, the frequently occurring fogs didn't drop too far down the
mountain. Fog on top of the mountain was often fearsome. One night during
exam week, we made the 6 mile drive from Sewanee to Monteagle in an hour and
a half, by sticking our heads out the window and following what we could see
of the white stripe down the middle of the road.

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On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:48:14 +0000, "David Wright Sr."
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>I know it very well, both as it is today and as it was between 1958 and 1962
>when I attended college at The University of the South in Sewanee about 6
>miles west of Monteagle on hwy 41. In those days, before it was I-24, what is
>now only the 'down' side before they built the new 'up' side on the eastern
>side of the mountain, was both up and down. I had some scary rides going to
>and from college on that road. Now and then a number of 18-wheelers would
>lose their brakes and 'usually' were able to hit the 'runaway' exit about
>half-way down the mountain.

There are two of those now, and they're on the inside, as i recall.

A friend of a firend - an insurance adjustor - was talking to a truck
driver who'd taken the runaway ramp with a cargo of frozen beef (which
was gonna be thoroughly spoilt before they got him out of there,
likely).

The trucker was sitting in his cab with the door open and his feet
dangline when another 18-wheeler lost its air and took the ramp -
knocking the truck already there over the side.

The driver barely managed to jump in time; he got abnged-up enough
that they took him to the emergency room, just in case.

The insurance company got a letter from him from Indiana, telling them
where to send the check - he'd had a revelation: "Don't drive trucks
no more.

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mike weber <fairportfan.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in
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>>I know it very well, both as it is today and as it was between 1958 and
>>1962 when I attended college at The University of the South in Sewanee
>>about 6 miles west of Monteagle on hwy 41. In those days, before it was
>>I-24, what is now only the 'down' side before they built the new 'up'
>>side on the eastern side of the mountain, was both up and down. I had
>>some scary rides going to and from college on that road. Now and then a
>>number of 18-wheelers would lose their brakes and 'usually' were able to
>>hit the 'runaway' exit about half-way down the mountain.
>
> There are two of those now, and they're on the inside, as i recall.
>

I am fairly sure that the original one on the outside is still there, but I
do believe that you may be right and that a second one has been added on
the inside. I live about a hundred miles south of there, but haven't been
over the road in a number of years.

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mike weber wrote:

> [1] If you've ever heard the song "Legend of the Bandit" from "Smokey
> and the Bandit", it doesn't exaggerate the way the the Monteagle Grade
> (I-24 between Chattanooga and Nashville_) is regarded by those who
> know it,.
>
If it's anything at all like the Grapevine above Bakersfield, I want
nothing to do with it.
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