The Oracle

Jacco Weel wrote:
> Either it will be adressed in the upcoming books or Ray has forgotten
> about the Oracle. The midkemia universe is getting very big and
> complicated. Even for the writer itself?
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I seriously doubt Ray has forgotten about anything to do with Midkemia. The
Oracle still resides under Sethanon yes? LOL, I may have forgotten a bit
here and there but I'll bet you dollars to dimes Ray hasn't.

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> "Joran" <joranquinten DeleteThis @gmail.com> schreef in bericht
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>> I've read Flight of the Nighthawks (now some time ago) and while
>> reading this, I began wondering why nobody thought of consulting the
>> Oracle of Aal? By now she should have finished her rebirthing-state
>> already, at least by my calculations. (Couldn't remember when it
>> began, but since Eric is already in his eighties and it was supposed
>> to take 20 yrs or so...)
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>> Perhaps she has some valuable pointers for our happy heroes, who
>> don't seem to be having a clue what to do with our new threat...
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>> Whil she even return in the series, I wonder...
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On 5 Jan 2006 09:18:55 -0800, "Joran" <joranquinten.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:

>I've read Flight of the Nighthawks (now some time ago) and while
>reading this, I began wondering why nobody thought of consulting the
>Oracle of Aal? By now she should have finished her rebirthing-state
>already, at least by my calculations. (Couldn't remember when it began,
>but since Eric is already in his eighties and it was supposed to take
>20 yrs or so...)
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>Perhaps she has some valuable pointers for our happy heroes, who don't
>seem to be having a clue what to do with our new threat...
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>Whil she even return in the series, I wonder...


I was thinking the characters where choosing not to consult her as
that is a path to rely on the words of an oracle. Her best ability is
to inform them of possible futures but her own interpretation can
cloud the outcome. Remember hindsight is 20/20.


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With the Conclave's connection with Sarig. They (more like Pug) have
received Marcos the Black former ability of Sarig's future sight.
Seeing the future through the eyes of the a god is a little more
powerful then hearing about it from second hand through the mouth of a
oracle.



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And thusly dids't Lore <> speak, to which I responded as so...

>On 5 Jan 2006 09:18:55 -0800, "Joran" <joranquinten.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>I've read Flight of the Nighthawks (now some time ago) and while
>>reading this, I began wondering why nobody thought of consulting the
>>Oracle of Aal? By now she should have finished her rebirthing-state
>>already, at least by my calculations. (Couldn't remember when it began,
>>but since Eric is already in his eighties and it was supposed to take
>>20 yrs or so...)
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>>Perhaps she has some valuable pointers for our happy heroes, who don't
>>seem to be having a clue what to do with our new threat...
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>>Whil she even return in the series, I wonder...
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>I was thinking the characters where choosing not to consult her as
>that is a path to rely on the words of an oracle. Her best ability is
>to inform them of possible futures but her own interpretation can
>cloud the outcome. Remember hindsight is 20/20.
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>With the Conclave's connection with Sarig. They (more like Pug) have
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>powerful then hearing about it from second hand through the mouth of a
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Well, considering they're getting letters from the future posted back
to them, from themselves, I'm not sure any sort of second sight on
their part is needed.

I can't actually remember anything really about the Oracle, so can't
comment on why they wouldn't go see it. About all I do recall is that
there was a bunch of hand maiden/acolytes types around, and she ended
up transferring into a dragon's body didn't she?

Ashen Shugar
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On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 23:11:50 GMT, deathsabyss.RemoveThis@yahoo.com.au (Ashen
Shugar) wrote:
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>Well, considering they're getting letters from the future posted back
>to them, from themselves, I'm not sure any sort of second sight on
>their part is needed.
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>I can't actually remember anything really about the Oracle, so can't
>comment on why they wouldn't go see it. About all I do recall is that
>there was a bunch of hand maiden/acolytes types around, and she ended
>up transferring into a dragon's body didn't she?
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>Ashen Shugar

Well I haven't read the latest book or are referring to the message
Pug left to the Priest at Sarth about the coming danger in Serpent war
series? I can't remember the book off hand but I think it was in
RoaMP.



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"~misfit~" <misfit61nz.RemoveThis@wahoo.co.nz> wrote in message
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>> On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 23:11:50 GMT, deathsabyss.RemoveThis@yahoo.com.au (Ashen
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>>> Well, considering they're getting letters from the future posted back
>>> to them, from themselves, I'm not sure any sort of second sight on
>>> their part is needed.
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>>> I can't actually remember anything really about the Oracle, so can't
>>> comment on why they wouldn't go see it. About all I do recall is
>>> that there was a bunch of hand maiden/acolytes types around, and she
>>> ended up transferring into a dragon's body didn't she?
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>>> Ashen Shugar
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>> Well I haven't read the latest book or are referring to the message
>> Pug left to the Priest at Sarth about the coming danger in Serpent war
>> series? I can't remember the book off hand but I think it was in
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> In 'Flight' Pug finds several letters on his desk that apparently he is
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> concerned and shows them to Nakor but not Miranda.... Which begs the
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> ~misfit~
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What if Future Pug included news of a unavoidable or necessary death of
Miranda?
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Woohoo.. Finally, the End of Nalor. (Hopefully, anyway..)

Chris

"~misfit~" <misfit61nz.RemoveThis@wahoo.co.nz> wrote in message
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> Ok, Wikipedia to the rescue. Next book is entitled "Into a Dark Realm" and is
> listed as a September 2006 release. If that's US release then maybe the rest
> of the world will be seeing it quite soon. Wiki says the final book is "Wrath
> of a Mad God" with release date TBA.
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> I can't wait..... Need a proof-reader Ray? <g>
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> Good point. I hadn't really thought about why he hadn't shown Miranda and
> why Nakor said that she would be really annoyed with Pug for not showing
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> Damn!! When is the next book due out? I wonder what it's called? Also, it
> seems that Ray isn't reading here currently. That's odd. Unless he prefers
> to remain quiet.
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This seems plausible in light of the price that Pug would have to pay if he
accepted becoming Macros' replacement. Though (also from memory) he refused
that offer.

As for Ray, I assume (with a new book out) that he's doing promotional
touring, and hence is not able to keep up with the group as often, if at
all..

Mike Bourke
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Hehe

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"Mike Bourke" <mbou3355.DeleteThis@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
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>> >> In 'Flight' Pug finds several letters on his desk that apparently he
>> >> is going to write to himself sometime in the future and then send
>> >> back. We haven't been told the content of the letters yet, just that
>> >> Pug is concerned and shows them to Nakor but not Miranda.... Which
>> >> begs the question... Do they implicate her in something?
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>> > What if Future Pug included news of a unavoidable or necessary death
>> > of Miranda?
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>> Good point. I hadn't really thought about why he hadn't shown Miranda and
>> why Nakor said that she would be really annoyed with Pug for not showing
> her
>> until I wrote the post. Your scenario is a lot more plausible. Or maybe
> one
>> or both of their sons could die? We know how devoted they are to them and
>> Pug *has* been dwelling on the deaths of his other children recently. Pug
>> could be sparing Miranda from worry maybe.
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>> Damn!! When is the next book due out? I wonder what it's called? Also, it
>> seems that Ray isn't reading here currently. That's odd. Unless he
>> prefers
>> to remain quiet.
>> --
>> ~misfit~
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> This seems plausible in light of the price that Pug would have to pay if
> he
> accepted becoming Macros' replacement. Though (also from memory) he
> refused
> that offer.
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> As for Ray, I assume (with a new book out) that he's doing promotional
> touring, and hence is not able to keep up with the group as often, if at
> all..
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> Mike Bourke
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I just assumed it was cause he though Miranda might get jealous that he
could travel through time where she couldn't

- Raith
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