Order and technology of early Foundation

chornedsnorkack.TakeThisOut@hushmail.com a écrit :

> 1) In which exact order was Foundation written?

The 9 stories and novellas were written in the same order as published
in the trilogy, with two exceptions. "The Psychohistorians" was written
and published last of all, in 1951 at the request of the publisher. And
"The Merchant Princes" was written in 1943 before "The Traders".

>
> Were any parts of Foundation written after Pebble in the Sky?

As I recall, yes. Pebble was written in the late 40s, about the same
time as Second Foundation. Asimov's autobiography _In Memory Still
Green_ and _The Early Asimov_ will give details.

>
> We know that Anavcreon had to rely on oil and coal for energy - no
> atomic power. Nevertheless, the people of Periphery were not stranded
> on their planets. They still could travel in space as well as FTL...
> Anacreon could control other planets, and so could Korell and Ashkone.
> Actually, they could engage in space fighting with Smyrno.

This has always seemed to me very inconsistent. A culture incapable
even of atomic power - which may not be the ultimate power source in
the universe - could scarcely retain for long transluminal or
faster-than-light travel. There is hard evidence for faster-than-light
travel, by the way, for in the early 50s huge alien spacecraft were
detected by many nations on radar as they circled the equator, and
these could scarcely have come from within our solar system.

Asimov was friends with the most notorious and most aggressive of all
the UFO debunkers, Phill Klass who used the alias William Tenn when he
wrote sci-fi (very poorly, by the way). He was revealed after his death
to have CIA affiliations. I have often wondered just what Asimov's
government contacts were. After all, our government likes to control
anyone who has influence over the public.
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virgiliopoeta wrote:

> chornedsnorkack.RemoveThis@hushmail.com a écrit :
>
> > 1) In which exact order was Foundation written?
>
> The 9 stories and novellas were written in the same order as published
> in the trilogy, with two exceptions. "The Psychohistorians" was written
> and published last of all, in 1951 at the request of the publisher. And
> "The Merchant Princes" was written in 1943 before "The Traders".
>
> >
> > Were any parts of Foundation written after Pebble in the Sky?
>
> As I recall, yes. Pebble was written in the late 40s, about the same
> time as Second Foundation. Asimov's autobiography _In Memory Still
> Green_ and _The Early Asimov_ will give details.
>
> >
> > We know that Anavcreon had to rely on oil and coal for energy - no
> > atomic power. Nevertheless, the people of Periphery were not stranded
> > on their planets. They still could travel in space as well as FTL...
> > Anacreon could control other planets, and so could Korell and Ashkone.
> > Actually, they could engage in space fighting with Smyrno.
>
> This has always seemed to me very inconsistent. A culture incapable
> even of atomic power - which may not be the ultimate power source in
> the universe - could scarcely retain for long transluminal or
> faster-than-light travel. There is hard evidence for faster-than-light
> travel, by the way, for in the early 50s huge alien spacecraft were
> detected by many nations on radar as they circled the equator, and
> these could scarcely have come from within our solar system.

Why wasn't this historic event included in my history books. Why don't we
see aliens walking down our streets?
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virgiliopoeta wrote:
> chornedsnorkack.DeleteThis@hushmail.com a écrit :
>
> > 1) In which exact order was Foundation written?
>
> The 9 stories and novellas were written in the same order as published
> in the trilogy, with two exceptions. "The Psychohistorians" was written
> and published last of all, in 1951 at the request of the publisher. And
> "The Merchant Princes" was written in 1943 before "The Traders".

So, while Traders came after Merchant Princes, it was still before
Foundation and Empire?
>
> >
> > Were any parts of Foundation written after Pebble in the Sky?
>
> As I recall, yes. Pebble was written in the late 40s, about the same
> time as Second Foundation. Asimov's autobiography _In Memory Still
> Green_ and _The Early Asimov_ will give details.
>
> >
> > We know that Anavcreon had to rely on oil and coal for energy - no
> > atomic power. Nevertheless, the people of Periphery were not stranded
> > on their planets. They still could travel in space as well as FTL...
> > Anacreon could control other planets, and so could Korell and Ashkone.
> > Actually, they could engage in space fighting with Smyrno.
>
> This has always seemed to me very inconsistent. A culture incapable
> even of atomic power - which may not be the ultimate power source in
> the universe - could scarcely retain for long transluminal or
> faster-than-light travel.

What kind of trick could it be that Foundation world uses for jumps? It
is not easy to invent (we have not invented it), but how hard is it to
reproduce?
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virgiliopoeta wrote:
> chornedsnorkack RemoveThis @hushmail.com a écrit :
>
> > 1) In which exact order was Foundation written?
>
> The 9 stories and novellas were written in the same order as published
> in the trilogy, with two exceptions. "The Psychohistorians" was written
> and published last of all, in 1951 at the request of the publisher. And
> "The Merchant Princes" was written in 1943 before "The Traders".

So, while Traders came after Merchant Princes, it was still before
Foundation and Empire?
>
> >
> > Were any parts of Foundation written after Pebble in the Sky?
>
> As I recall, yes. Pebble was written in the late 40s, about the same
> time as Second Foundation. Asimov's autobiography _In Memory Still
> Green_ and _The Early Asimov_ will give details.
>
> >
> > We know that Anavcreon had to rely on oil and coal for energy - no
> > atomic power. Nevertheless, the people of Periphery were not stranded
> > on their planets. They still could travel in space as well as FTL...
> > Anacreon could control other planets, and so could Korell and Ashkone.
> > Actually, they could engage in space fighting with Smyrno.
>
> This has always seemed to me very inconsistent. A culture incapable
> even of atomic power - which may not be the ultimate power source in
> the universe - could scarcely retain for long transluminal or
> faster-than-light travel.

What kind of trick could it be that Foundation world uses for jumps? It
is not easy to invent (we have not invented it), but how hard is it to
reproduce?
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chornedsnorkack DeleteThis @hushmail.com wrote:
> What kind of trick could it be that Foundation world uses for jumps? It
> is not easy to invent (we have not invented it), but how hard is it to
> reproduce?

We don't know, but we know that it needs a lot of computing power, that
you need to be able to get into space by other methods (since nobody,
even under duress, ever hyperjumps from a planetary surface) and that
Anacreon could build space weaponry which included things like energy
cannon and force shields. None of that is consistent with not having the
tech to run a fission power plant.

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