Is there anything that PJ didn't change?

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> I went last night to see the movie with my daughters
> and boyfriends(all in their 20's),my 9 year old son,and my wife.They
> all loved it.I did not.I didn't hate it,but I kept waiting for things
> from the book to happen,but it seems they changed just about
> everything.The names of people,and places were the same,but that seems
> to be about it.Can anyone name something that was the same as in the
> book?I agree with the 40+ post of James Hyder above!

Of the three, RoTK is obviously the most butchered. No Prince Imrahil of
Dol Amroth !!??. Faramir is drug to the city gates by his horse !! No
Beregond showing Pippin around the city. No Rangers !? No Houses of
Healing. No wild men. Denethor unrecognizable. No realtionship between the
King of Rohan and Merry. Eowyn is beautiful - but too beautiful - that is
not Eowyn.

No scouring of the Shire !!!!?????!!!!

Everything all rushed into a few days time (like the whole movie trilogy) !?
Does not Mr. Jackson bother to at least inform himself about seige warfare,
if he can't bother to read Tolkien ?

Ugh!

JH
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"jere7my tho?rpe" <j7y.RemoveThis@liws.org> wrote:

>In article <eppstein-287B60.22354419122003.RemoveThis@news.service.uci.edu>,
> David Eppstein <eppstein.RemoveThis@ics.uci.edu> wrote:
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>> There's a frame or two of Merry swearing to Theoden on the porch of
>> Meduseld in the trailer. I'm guessing it will be in the EE.
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> Perhaps we should work on a list of things that are known to have
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> * Eomer grieving for Theoden.

A bit of this is clearly in the trailer, so it has been filmed. It can
probably be moved to your top category.
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"jere7my tho?rpe" <j7y.RemoveThis@liws.org> wrote in message news:<j7y-

* Gandalf confronting the Witch King.

I saw a still showing Gandalf on Shadowfax, with Pippin sitting behind
him, confronting the Witch King along what appears to be a higher
level of Minas Tirith.

Madman
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"James Hyder" <JamesHyder RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Of the three, RoTK is obviously the most butchered.

Except it's not butchered, nor were any of the three.
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"jere7my tho?rpe" <j7y DeleteThis @liws.org> wrote in message
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> In article <eppstein-287B60.22354419122003 DeleteThis @news.service.uci.edu>,
> David Eppstein <eppstein DeleteThis @ics.uci.edu> wrote:
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> > There's a frame or two of Merry swearing to Theoden on the porch of
> > Meduseld in the trailer. I'm guessing it will be in the EE.
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> Perhaps we should work on a list of things that are known to have
> been filmed for the EE, after a bit of spoiler space:
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The Voice of Saruman will be in the EE. (Newspaper interview with PJ).
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On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 13:00:13 GMT, "Rick"
<swtravlr.DeleteThis@NOSPAMtampabay.rr.com> wrote:

>"James Hyder" <JamesHyder.DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>> Of the three, RoTK is obviously the most butchered.
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>Except it's not butchered, nor were any of the three.
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And they don't butcher pigs to make sausage either!

They 'adapt' them to fit the 'new medium'.


the softrat
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Baba ganoosh ganache!
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In article <583auv00gmu2cvhkbpvtt47e99c2j24ode.TakeThisOut@4ax.com>,
the softrat <softrat.TakeThisOut@pobox.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 13:00:13 GMT, "Rick"
> <swtravlr.TakeThisOut@NOSPAMtampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >"James Hyder" <JamesHyder.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >news:_8ednXoOtfgzTn6iRVn-uw@comcast.com...
> >> Of the three, RoTK is obviously the most butchered.
> >
> >Except it's not butchered, nor were any of the three.
> >
> And they don't butcher pigs to make sausage either!
>
> They 'adapt' them to fit the 'new medium'.
>
>
> the softrat
> "You've seen the epic. Now experience the Whole Story!"
> mailto:softrat@pobox.com
> --
> Baba ganoosh ganache Ganesh!
> Baba ganoosh ganache!
> --culinary cheer for the elephant god

That makes about as much sense as any analogy you have used (which of
course is none at all).
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"C.C. Baxter" <ccbaxter03NOSPAM.RemoveThis@terra.es> wrote in message news:<bs29v3$8pofj$1@ID-39038.news.uni-berlin.de>...
> ...
> - Word is that New Line are balking at the price for another Extended
> Edition, ...

It's hard to believe that the New Line moneychangers could be that stupid.
Now that the movies have succeeded equaling their wildest dreams, why would
they suddenly get cold feet? Anything PJ might do with the EE is assured
of fantastic success, with zero risk.

-cr
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"the softrat" <softrat.TakeThisOut@pobox.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 13:00:13 GMT, "Rick"
> <swtravlr.TakeThisOut@NOSPAMtampabay.rr.com> wrote:
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> >"James Hyder" <JamesHyder.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >news:_8ednXoOtfgzTn6iRVn-uw@comcast.com...
> >> Of the three, RoTK is obviously the most butchered.
> >
> >Except it's not butchered, nor were any of the three.
> >
> And they don't butcher pigs to make sausage either!
>
> They 'adapt' them to fit the 'new medium'.
>
>

Hey softrat, would you like to actually talk about the book or the movie or
do you simply have no more intellectual ammunition left?
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"Rick" <swtravlr.RemoveThis@NOSPAMtampabay.rr.com> wrote

> "James Hyder" <JamesHyder.RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote

> > Of the three, RoTK is obviously the most butchered.
>
> Except it's not butchered, nor were any of the three.
>

Of course they were. Thoroughly.

Actually the more I think about it, butchering is not a bad metaphor at all
for what PJ has done to LoTR. Cut out the fat (what he sees as fat,
anyway); sliced up into parts and rearranged and packaged to be sold; made
sausage of some bits, steaks of some bits, kept the tender loin in tact, and
threw away lots and lots of good, good stuff. Kept a roast or two back to
be sold later on.

Yes. Butchered. Thoroughly.

JH
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oscwr.TakeThisOut@netscape.net (Calvin Rice) wrote in message news:<22680de.0312210947.61028ac8.TakeThisOut@posting.google.com>...
> "C.C. Baxter" <ccbaxter03NOSPAM.TakeThisOut@terra.es> wrote in message news:<bs29v3$8pofj$1@ID-39038.news.uni-berlin.de>...
> > ...
> > - Word is that New Line are balking at the price for another Extended
> > Edition, ...
>
> It's hard to believe that the New Line moneychangers could be that stupid.
> Now that the movies have succeeded equaling their wildest dreams, why would
> they suddenly get cold feet? Anything PJ might do with the EE is assured
> of fantastic success, with zero risk.
>
> -cr


All PJ would have to do is refuse to do it. They could threaten to
sue him of course, but considering they'll have pulled in the
neighborhood of 2-3 BILLION dollars, it won't look good at all.
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oscwr RemoveThis @netscape.net (Calvin Rice) wrote in message news:<22680de.0312210947.61028ac8 RemoveThis @posting.google.com>...
> "C.C. Baxter" <ccbaxter03NOSPAM RemoveThis @terra.es> wrote in message news:<bs29v3$8pofj$1@ID-39038.news.uni-berlin.de>...
> > ...
> > - Word is that New Line are balking at the price for another Extended
> > Edition, ...
>
> It's hard to believe that the New Line moneychangers could be that stupid.
> Now that the movies have succeeded equaling their wildest dreams, why would
> they suddenly get cold feet? Anything PJ might do with the EE is assured
> of fantastic success, with zero risk.

They wouldn't be that stupid. This is complete twaddle, just like most
things begin with the phrase 'Word is...'

DB.
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the softrat wrote:
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> And they don't butcher pigs to make sausage either!
>
> They 'adapt' them to fit the 'new medium'.
>
<BG> As in "Long live the New Flesh!"?

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Odysseus
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