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Since: May 14, 2005 Posts: 63
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:00 am
Post subject: Planet Mercury (was "Lesbian bodies") Archived from groups: alt>books>larry-niven (more info?)
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In article <fIxm7.2485$lk6.886317@orpheusnews>, Ginevra M. Longbottom
wrote:
> > What are your reasons for excluding Mercury?
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> Too small, and to be controversial.
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> > Or, for that matter, Chiron?
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> Cant remeber if its biger or smaler than Mercury.
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Without checking, ISTR that Chiron is relatively small - OK, I
checked - "Estimates of Chiron's diameter range from 148 to 208 km, and
lightcurve studies give a rotational period of 5.9 hrs." ; Mercury is
about 4900km diameter.
Looking at data on the rotational (?) lightcurve of Chiron, it
varies by around 7%, which would suggest that it's vaguely like 7% off
from spherical, which I'd put as being "close to spherical". It's a
matter for debate and quantification whether I'd consider it as a
planet or not (first time I've really addressed this issue in numbers),
but it'd be close to the dividing line. I'd have to consider the
implications of Chiron being in a (potentially ?) Saturn-crossing orbit
in addressing that point.
Geologically (Hermetically?), Mercury is a fine planet. It's
possible that it's lost a significant amount of it's "mantle", leading
to a high overall density.
I don't know what you're considering to be controversial about
Mercury.
Vulcan? - no reputable astronomer supports the alleged existence of
this puff of smoke and mirrors.
Retrograde rotation? that's a stochastic character for planets. Would
you also exclude Venus and Uranus?
Precession of the argument of perihelion? Einstein explained this
nearly a century ago - it's a feature of gravity and mass, not whether
a particle is a planet or not.
--
Aidan Karley,
Aberdeen, Scotland,
Location: +57d10' , -02d09' (sub-tropical Aberdeen), 0.021233
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Since: Oct 06, 2005 Posts: 22
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 11:34 pm
Post subject: Re: Planet Mercury (was "Lesbian bodies") [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Aidan wrote:
> Ginevra M. Longbottom wrote:
>> Too small, and to be controversial.
>>> Or, for that matter, Chiron?
>> Cant remeber if its biger or smaler than Mercury.
> Without checking, ISTR that Chiron is relatively small - OK, I
> checked - "Estimates of Chiron's diameter range from 148 to 208 km, and
> lightcurve studies give a rotational period of 5.9 hrs." ; Mercury is
> about 4900km diameter.
Well there you go then, thaat's why I didn't even think of Chiron.
> Looking at data on the rotational (?) lightcurve of Chiron, it varies by
> around 7%, which would suggest that it's vaguely like 7% off from
> spherical, which I'd put as being "close to spherical".
I don't know about %'s, but planets hav to LOOK circliar, like Earyh does.
> It's a matter for debate and quantification whether I'd consider it as a
> planet or not (first time I've really addressed this issue in numbers),
> but it'd be close to the dividing line. I'd have to consider the
> implications of Chiron being in a (potentially ?) Saturn-crossing orbit
> in addressing that point.
Yap and Pluto is Neptune=crossing, not that it can hit.
> Geologically (Hermetically?), Mercury is a fine planet. It's
> possible that it's lost a significant amount of it's "mantle", leading
> to a high overall density.
I'm thinking that it's a lot smaller thaan the biger moo ns, yes?
> I don't know what you're considering to be controversial about Mercury.
No no dear Aidan, me being controversial, not poor ickle mercury.
> Vulcan? - no reputable astronomer supports the alleged existence of
> this puff of smoke and mirrors.
Course not.
> Retrograde rotation? that's a stochastic character for planets. Would
> you also exclude Venus and Uranus?
Have you forgetten my list already? They was on it.
> Precession of the argument of perihelion? Einstein explained this
> nearly a century ago - it's a feature of gravity and mass, not whether
> a particle is a planet or not.
I thought long and hard about this issue, then decided it soundes 2 much
like an episode of East enders, so I gave it to the cat to play with.
Ginevra
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