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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 11:40 am
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Prince Charles was driving around his mother's estate when he
accidentally ran over her favorite dog, a Corgi, crushing it to a pulp.
He got out of his Range Rover and sat down on the grass totally
distraught. The whole world was against him and now his mother would go
ballistic.

Suddenly he noticed a lamp half-buried in the ground. He dug it up,
polished it and immediately a genie appeared. "You have freed me from
thousands of years of imprisonment," said the genie. "As a reward I
shall grant you one wish."

"Well," said the Prince, "I have all the material things that I need,
but let me show you this dog." They walk over to the splattered remains
of the dog. "Do you think you could bring this dog back to life for me?"
Prince Charles asked. The genie carefully looked at the remains and
shook his head. "This body is too far gone for even me to bring it back
to life. Is there something else you would like?"

Prince Charles thought for a minute, reached into his pocket and pulled
out two photos. "I was married to this beautiful woman called Diana,"
said the Prince, showing the genie the first photo. "But now I love this
woman called Camilla," and he showed the genie the second photo. "You
see Camilla isn't beautiful at all, so do you think you can make Camilla
as beautiful as Diana?"

The genie studied the two photographs and after a few minutes said,
"Let's have a look at that dog again."



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"vj" <vj DeleteThis @vickijean.com> wrote in message
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 > vj found this in alt.books.m-lackey, from "Lurker@The.Threshold"
 > <jamhppKNOT DeleteThis @comcast.net> :
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 > ]"Let's have a look at that dog again."
 >
 > AMEN!
 > and Point!

Thank you.

I think almost everyone wiould agree that Charles and Camilla make a nice
pair.
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Of horses <EG>

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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 18:22:22 -0500, "Lurker@The.Threshold"
<jamhppKNOT.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote:

 >I think almost everyone wiould agree that Charles and Camilla make a nice
 >pair.
 >.
 >Of horses <EG>

So, you think that only 'the beautiful people' deserve to love or be
happy? What a sad state of affairs.

Charles and Camilla were in love long before they met either Diana
Spencer or Andrew Parker-Bowles. They were not allowed to marry,
though, because of the requirements of the British Crown - a spouse
needs to be of the 'right' religion, the 'right' family background.
Camilla didn't fit the requirements, so Charles wasn't allowed to
marry her. Instead he had to marry a 'young woman of good breeding' -
Diana - despite the fact that he didn't love her romantically
(remember the 'whatever that means' when asked by the press, at their
engagement, if they were 'in love'?).

Diana was brought up in a strata of society where it was accepted that
once the heir-and-a-spare was born, both partners were free to pursue
romantic love outside the marriage, as long as it was done discretely.
Charles and Camilla *were* discrete - until Diana decided to flaunt
her *many* lovers in the public eye, went to the press and made formal
statements (accusations) about everything that she saw was wrong with
her marriage, all of it Charles' fault, naturally.

It takes 2 to make a marriage fail, not just one. Yes, Charles and
Camilla's relationship was one reason things went badly, but she
didn't help matters, either. Perhaps if she was as nice on the inside
as she was on the outside, Charles wouldn't have felt the need to seek
elsewhere for emotional connection.

I'll get off my soapbox now...

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"Mummy Az" <manth.TakeThisOut@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
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 > On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 18:22:22 -0500, "Lurker@The.Threshold"
 > <jamhppKNOT.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote:
 >
  > >I think almost everyone wiould agree that Charles and Camilla make a nice
  > >pair.
  > >.
  > >Of horses <EG>
 >
 > So, you think that only 'the beautiful people' deserve to love or be
 > happy? What a sad state of affairs.
 >
<snips>
 >
 > I'll get off my soapbox now...
 >

Sorry if I gave that impression. I truly believe that they are and HAVE
been in love for a long time. And it's about time that they have an
opportunity to show the world how much they love each other. And sadly I've
found that _many_ of the so called "beautiful people", if the outside
matched the inside, would be so fugly that no one would want to be anywhere
near them.
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On Svn, 27 Mar 2005 17:14:20 -0800, vj <vj DeleteThis @vickijean.com> wrote:

 >vj fovnd this in alt.books.m-lackey, from "Lvrker@The.Threshold"
 ><jamhppKNOT DeleteThis @comcast.net> :
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 >]I think almost everyone wiovld agree that Charles and Camilla make a nice
 >]pair.
 >
 >personally, i think they DESERVE each other! BLEAH!

I do too - bvt from a different point of view. Yov seem to consider
it a mvtval pvnishment, I think they consider it a mvtval reward.

I wish them every happiness, and that their vnion is a long and happy
one.

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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 21:23:47 -0800, vj <vj.DeleteThis@vickijean.com> wrote:

 >vj found this in alt.books.m-lackey, from Mummy Az <manth.DeleteThis@ozemail.com.au>
 >:
 >
 >]You seem to consider
 >]it a mutual punishment
 >
 >i hope that's what they get.

But why?

They've done nothing to hurt you. You're not even in a part of the
world that comes under their rule, so you don't have to worry about
them being Head Of State.

While personally I dislike the morality that had them marry other
people while still loving one another, it was their business and one
that was hugely interfered with by British Law and all the tripe that
regulates who the Monarch and Heirs may marry. While I've not heard
anything Bad about Andrew Parker-Bowles, I was disgusted with the way
the late Princess of Wales handled things - but again it was *their*
business, not that of anyone else.

The late Princess had options. I don't buy for one minute that she
was 'too young' to get herself involved. She was 19, a legal adult.
At 19, *I* had discovered that my fiance was sleeping with someone
else and left him. It was hard. It was embarrassing. But I did it.
A friend of mine was a single parent with a disabled son at 19. She
coped. At 19, you are legally responsible for your actions, and HER
actions were that she married a man she was aware did not 'lurve' her
in a romantic sense, but was willing to share his life and his future
crown with her.

She WAS aware of the relationship between Charles and Camilla right
from the start. She was quite open in interviews given during her
engagement about how she had enlisted the help of Charles' mistress to
'catch his eye'. Given that she had done so, it is not a stretch that
they believed she would be 'accepting' of their relationship -
especially given that it is considered NORMAL among those circles that
you marry for duty and have emotional entanglements discretely on the
side after the heir is born. Indeed, there are many who believe that
Diana herself was the result of one of those discreet relationships
and accepted as the daughter of her mother's husband because 'that is
what one does'.

If you're pointing the finger about swapping bodily fluids, Diana is
FAR more guilty than Charles. She had many affairs, some with married
men - AND she made a point of going to the press about it. She
*bragged* about it on television and in magazine interviews, heedless
of the damage she was doing to her sons at boarding school by giving
their classmates ammunition for taunts.

She had options. She could have been quietly complaisant, as other
Royal Wives have been for centuries past, knowing that she was the
second-most powerful woman in the land (after her MIL) and that in
time she would have been THE most powerful as the wife (and later
mother) of the King. She could have (as a previous Princess of Wales
did) set herself up with a 'rival court' of her own people, lovers and
so on to give Charles hell but refused to divorce him if she still
wanted her place in the limelight. She could have quietly separated
from him, obtained a 'no fault' divorce by simply not living as his
wife for a time (I believe it's 2 years in the UK) then had a chance
at a new life all the while keeping her dignity and coming out as the
'innocent victim' whom most would have supported.

Instead, she exposed herself as a flighty, ill-mannered vixen. One
moment she was screaming that she wanted privacy, the next sobbing
that she had 'lost' her position in the forefront of Women's Magazines
when the editors honoured her pleas. She dumped nearly all her
charities (chosen by her, but funded by her husband's family from her
Charity Budget) claiming she couldn't deal with all their demands on
her, then insisting that they accept her patronage again.

Charles and Camilla, on the other hand, have been discrete with their
relationship. They kept it, as much as possible, out of the media
even after Diana's death. They accepted that his sons might find it
difficult to spend time with her, so they were never together when
Charles had his sons with him. Diana would spend time with her lovers
while the boys were with her - famously, she took them on the yacht
she was sharing with Dodi al Fayed, who died with her in Paris, just a
few weeks before her death.

And now, when Diana is dead, when Charles has heirs from his first
marriage and Camilla is almost certainly too old to provide him with
more children who might challenge the claims of his more 'acceptable'
sons I feel they deserve the chance of happiness.

I accept that you don't feel that way, but I think it's a little
harsh.

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In article <U_KdnRojApC8S9vfRVn-tg DeleteThis @comcast.com>, jamhppKNOT DeleteThis @comcast.net
says...
 > Prince Charles was driving around his mother's estate when he
 > accidentally ran over her favorite dog, a Corgi, crushing it to a pulp.
 > He got out of his Range Rover and sat down on the grass totally
 > distraught. The whole world was against him and now his mother would go
 > ballistic.
 >
 > Suddenly he noticed a lamp half-buried in the ground. He dug it up,
 > polished it and immediately a genie appeared. "You have freed me from
 > thousands of years of imprisonment," said the genie. "As a reward I
 > shall grant you one wish."
 >
 > "Well," said the Prince, "I have all the material things that I need,
 > but let me show you this dog." They walk over to the splattered remains
 > of the dog. "Do you think you could bring this dog back to life for me?"
 > Prince Charles asked. The genie carefully looked at the remains and
 > shook his head. "This body is too far gone for even me to bring it back
 > to life. Is there something else you would like?"
 >
 > Prince Charles thought for a minute, reached into his pocket and pulled
 > out two photos. "I was married to this beautiful woman called Diana,"
 > said the Prince, showing the genie the first photo. "But now I love this
 > woman called Camilla," and he showed the genie the second photo. "You
 > see Camilla isn't beautiful at all, so do you think you can make Camilla
 > as beautiful as Diana?"
 >
 > The genie studied the two photographs and after a few minutes said,
 > "Let's have a look at that dog again."
 >
 >
 >
 >
Brit Point !!!!!


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<snip of well argued position
 >I accept that you don't feel that way, but I think it's a little
 >harsh.
 >
 >Az

Go Your Majesty!

My father had a tendency to get worked up over what various
celebrities did or didn't. Always made me wonder why ...

<shrug>

Can I interest you in a nice pot of tea?

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"Beldin" <beldin.sorcerer DeleteThis @ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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  > > The genie studied the two photographs and after a few minutes said,
  > > "Let's have a look at that dog again."
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 > Brit Point !!!!!
 >

Thank you Beldin. I'll confess, the responses I was most worried about were
from your side of the pond.

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On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 17:08:39 -0800, Rhino 7 <laney2 RemoveThis @comfishcast.net>
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 ><snip of well argued position
  >>I accept that you don't feel that way, but I think it's a little
  >>harsh.
  >>
  >>Az
 >
 >Go Your Majesty!
 >
 >My father had a tendency to get worked up over what various
 >celebrities did or didn't. Always made me wonder why ...
 >
 ><shrug>
 >
 >Can I interest you in a nice pot of tea?
 >
 >The Bookwurm

Sounds good. Lady Grey for preference.

Just on the record - I'm not really that rabid a fan of the British
Royal Family. I just hate injustice, and it seems to me that Charlie
gets the rough end of the deal more often than not.

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on a.b.m-l "Mummy Az" writes:

 > Just on the record - I'm not really that rabid a fan of the British
 > Royal Family. I just hate injustice, and it seems to me that Charlie
 > gets the rough end of the deal more often than not.

My take on it is the Prince Charles has about the worst position going.
After all he's spent his whole life waiting for his mother to die.

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  >>Can I interest you in a nice pot of tea?
  >>
  >>The Bookwurm
 >
 >Sounds good. Lady Grey for preference.

Lady Grey it is then, your majesty.

 >Just on the record - I'm not really that rabid a fan of the British
 >Royal Family. I just hate injustice, and it seems to me that Charlie
 >gets the rough end of the deal more often than not.
 >
 >Az

I suppose the strongest emotion I have is surprise that the UK has
managed to have a more-or-less unbroken sequence of kings/queens from
waaaaaaaaaaay back. (Somebody cue the intro music for Ho Ho Ho What
A Comforting Thing To Know from The Slipper and The Rose.)

I used to have a king/queen tree poster ... could get absorbed in it
.... YMMV <G>

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