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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 4:28 pm
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Dear all,

I am collecting the Fantasy Masterworks series published in the UK by
Victor GOllancz. A few days ago while cleaning the shelf I noticed
that some of the paperbacks had started getting a yellow hue. Usually
2 sides of a paperback (the ones that are exposed to air) are yellower
than the third one (the side facing down that lies on the shelf).

I was wondering how can I stop this yellowing. I would like to keep
the books visible on the shelf and not store them out of sight. I am
considering putting each one of them inside a transparent "enevlope"
to protect them from air and dust. I understand that I should use
Mylar for this. I was wondering where can I get Mylar sheets that I
can cut to the sizes I need and make these "envelope" for my
paperbacks from.

Since I'm new to the art of book preservation, I would be thankful for
any other ideas or suggestions.

Thank you,

Oren Douek

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 12:28 pm
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"Oren Douek" <doueko RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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 > Dear all,
 >
 > I am collecting the Fantasy Masterworks series published in the UK by
 > Victor GOllancz. A few days ago while cleaning the shelf I noticed
 > that some of the paperbacks had started getting a yellow hue. Usually
 > 2 sides of a paperback (the ones that are exposed to air) are yellower
 > than the third one (the side facing down that lies on the shelf).
 >
 > I was wondering how can I stop this yellowing. I would like to keep
 > the books visible on the shelf and not store them out of sight. I am
 > considering putting each one of them inside a transparent "enevlope"
 > to protect them from air and dust. I understand that I should use
 > Mylar for this. I was wondering where can I get Mylar sheets that I
 > can cut to the sizes I need and make these "envelope" for my
 > paperbacks from.
 >
 > Since I'm new to the art of book preservation, I would be thankful for
 > any other ideas or suggestions.
 >
 > Thank you,
 >
 > Oren Douek

All Mylar will do is protect the books from chafing and small
tears due to day handling. It won't protect them from environmental
damage. This question was answered a few weeks ago as follows -

Basically you need to protect the books from the UV rays in
all sunlight - not just bright sunlight, ideally in archival
boxes or bags

Acid free (or buffered)** are the words you're looking for.
Store them in an acid free box thus keeping them out
of direct sunlight. All sunlight is harmful btw.
The rest depends on how valuable it is. As a rough
and totally unscientific explanation, the browning
is caused by acids in the paper which is made from
wood pulp oxidising - combining with the oxygen in
the atmosphere - a sort of rusting and brittling.

For books which are going to be exposed to the
air you can purchase a de-acidification spray* which
will halt any further browning and brittling but it
won't reverse what's already occured. You would need
to spray one page at a time. This stuff is expensive
and whether it would be economic for just one book
would depend on just how valuable it was.

In any case that's unecesary here I'd imagine. If you
wrap it in archival grade* acid free paper, and store it
in an archival grade acid free box you should be o.k
Ideally books should have ventilation but provided
there's no fungal growth present that's probably
unecessary. So as long as you check there's no
obvious fungal growth or insects present before
you wrap it you shuld be o.k. Acid free paper and
card are probably best providing you've average
humidity. As are most books. Central heating can
be a problem although the first sign of that is
often when the veneers start lifting off of
the antique furniture.


* All this stuff, card boxes etc is Googleable for suppliers
depending on where you live.


** Buffered paper and card has an excess of alkali in it which
neutralises the acid in the paper. The acid is used when the
paper is originally bleached and sized.

There's more about this, and a wealth of other topics in the
NewsGroup FAQ here -

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.rcbfaq.com/" target="_blank">http://www.rcbfaq.com/</a>





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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 1:06 pm
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"michael adams" <mjadams28 DeleteThis @onetel.net.uk> wrote in message
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 > "Oren Douek" <doueko DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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  > > Dear all,
  > >
  > > I am collecting the Fantasy Masterworks series published in the UK by
  > > Victor GOllancz. A few days ago while cleaning the shelf I noticed
  > > that some of the paperbacks had started getting a yellow hue. Usually
  > > 2 sides of a paperback (the ones that are exposed to air) are yellower
  > > than the third one (the side facing down that lies on the shelf).
  > >
  > > I was wondering how can I stop this yellowing. I would like to keep
  > > the books visible on the shelf and not store them out of sight.

Didn't notice this before. This is a compromise then. In addition to
the acidification problem if you insist on keeping them visible then
you will need to use UV filtering to protect them. Either behind UV
filtered glass in the bookcase, or UV filtered film attached to the
windows. Or possibly....I haven't researched Mylar and similar and
I don't know if there's any such product, but UV filtered Mylar would
probably be a solution. However its doubtful if it would prevent
further yellowing as effectively as keeping the material away from
sunlight altogether in boxes etc.

IMO this is going to be a compromise with no ideal solution whatever
you do.


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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 5:09 am
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"michael adams" <mjadams28.TakeThisOut@onetel.net.uk> wrote in message news:<2thfdmF1u2k6pU1.TakeThisOut@uni-berlin.de>...
 > "michael adams" <mjadams28.TakeThisOut@onetel.net.uk> wrote in message
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  > > "Oren Douek" <doueko.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
  > > news:a3e00c56.0410171228.1317aed2@posting.google.com...
   > > > Dear all,
   > > >
   > > > I am collecting the Fantasy Masterworks series published in the UK by
   > > > Victor GOllancz. A few days ago while cleaning the shelf I noticed
   > > > that some of the paperbacks had started getting a yellow hue. Usually
   > > > 2 sides of a paperback (the ones that are exposed to air) are yellower
   > > > than the third one (the side facing down that lies on the shelf).
   > > >
   > > > I was wondering how can I stop this yellowing. I would like to keep
   > > > the books visible on the shelf and not store them out of sight.
 >
 > Didn't notice this before. This is a compromise then. In addition to
 > the acidification problem if you insist on keeping them visible then
 > you will need to use UV filtering to protect them. Either behind UV
 > filtered glass in the bookcase, or UV filtered film attached to the
 > windows. Or possibly....I haven't researched Mylar and similar and
 > I don't know if there's any such product, but UV filtered Mylar would
 > probably be a solution. However its doubtful if it would prevent
 > further yellowing as effectively as keeping the material away from
 > sunlight altogether in boxes etc.
 >
 > IMO this is going to be a compromise with no ideal solution whatever
 > you do.
 >
 >
  > > NewsGroup FAQ here -
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  > > michael adams


Thanks for the replies. I'm still a bit confused though. I don't
understand what is the main cause for yellowing. Is it the light or
the air, or a combination of both? If it's mainly the air, then I
assume that putting the books in a Mylar envelope should prevent the
yellowing. If it's the light - I have my books in a room which is not
lighted most of the time, and I intend on purchasing a bookcase with
glass doors. Wouldn't the Mylar, the bookcase, and the fact the room
will be dark most of the time be enough?

Another option I thought of is creating boxes (akin to the boxes used
for paperback in "gift box" editions) the size of the paperbacks
(let's say a box per 5 similar sized paperbacks) and storing them on
the shelves inside the boxes which will be open on one side, so the
spine with the title is visible. I guess I will have to build these
boxes myself somehow.

Funnily enough I've just noticed that I have the 7 books in the Narnia
series in a gift box edition I bought in Edinburgh in 1994. One of the
books was outside the box while the others were always inside. The one
that was outside has almost completely yellowed, while the ones that
were stored inside are as new.

I live in Europe, but still can't find a supplier of acid free boxes,
glue, or Mylar around here. Any help?

Thank again,

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:26 pm
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On 19 Oct 2004 02:09:05 -0700, doueko DeleteThis @hotmail.com (Oren Douek) wrote:

 >Thanks for the replies. I'm still a bit confused though. I don't
 >understand what is the main cause for yellowing.

Both

Try reading <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://amol.org.au/recollections/" target="_blank">http://amol.org.au/recollections/</a> and
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://palimpsest.stanford.edu" target="_blank">http://palimpsest.stanford.edu</a> for starters

 >I live in Europe, but still can't find a supplier of acid free boxes,
 >glue, or Mylar around here. Any help?

Preservation Equipment or Conservation by Design. For basic mounting
board, try any art shop - Daler Rowney's is easy to find and suitably
buffered.

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:56 pm
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"Oren Douek" <doueko.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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 > Thanks for the replies. I'm still a bit confused though. I don't
 > understand what is the main cause for yellowing. Is it the light or
 > the air, or a combination of both? If it's mainly the air, then I
 > assume that putting the books in a Mylar envelope should prevent the
 > yellowing

Ironically, it's the air from books themselves. The acid in the paper reacts
with air to yellow the pages over time. If you put the book in a bag, it can
hasten the process. I put paperbacks in polyester bags (to protect them from
physical damage), but leave them open at the top to let the acid escape. For
rare and fragile paperbacks, I use a "phase box." This is a cardboard box
made of buffered paper which neutralizes (to some extent) the acid.
Sometimes I'll stick a sheet of buffered cardboard in the bag with the
paperback to make me feel better (I'll let you know how it works in a few
decades.)

I don't think that light is that much of a problem, within reason. If I had
to hide all my books, I wouldn't bother collecting them, and that would be
worse for preservation. The books do have to pay a small price in order to
have a decent home in my collection.

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 10:19 pm
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"Oren Douek" <doueko.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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 > I live in Europe, but still can't find a supplier of acid free boxes,
 > glue, or Mylar around here. Any help?


Your posting address 213.178 shows as Stuttgart.

There are possibly still more archives and libraries in Europe than
in the rest of the World Combined.

Check nationally and locally i.e among non English speaking sources,
for Library and Archive Suppliers.

These are the sources you need to check out. As there are bound to be
some who can supply exactly what you need. As your problem is far
from unique.

Mylar may be a US patent material for which there are perfectly
satisfactory European equivalents - but made by Hoechst rather than
say DuPont. But that's only a guess.



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On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 19:19:26 +0100, "michael adams"
<mjadams28 RemoveThis @onetel.net.uk> wrote:

 >Mylar may be a US patent material for which there are perfectly
 >satisfactory European equivalents

Mylar is a US tradename for polyester. Generic polyester film can be
had from anyone offering art supplies.

_Don't_ use polythene or PVC films - they have plasticisers that can
cause them to stick to what's next to them.
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