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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 11:04 am
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I thought I read soewhere that there was going to be a new addition of
ON THE ROAD, with material that was not in the original published
version. If so, when is thia due?

Also, whatever became of the writings that Kerouac referred to as
SECRET MULLINGS ABOUT BILL, which were his obversations on WIlliam
Burrough?. I may be off on the title but it's as close as I can get.

Thanks.

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<MP50 DeleteThis @angelfire.com> wrote in message
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>
> Also, whatever became of the writings that Kerouac referred to as
> SECRET MULLINGS ABOUT BILL, which were his obversations
> on WIlliam Burrough?. I may be off on the title but it's as close as I can
> get.


In his letters of the mid-1950s, Kerouac mentioned plans to write a book
called "Visions of Bill," but there is no evidence that he ever began it.


Dave
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:30 am
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Dave,

As usual thanks for the info. We appreciate that you share what you
know with us.

Dave Moore wrote:
> <MP50.DeleteThis@angelfire.com> wrote in message
> news:1157911442.338493.127110@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Also, whatever became of the writings that Kerouac referred to as
> > SECRET MULLINGS ABOUT BILL, which were his obversations
> > on WIlliam Burrough?. I may be off on the title but it's as close as I can
> > get.
>
>
> In his letters of the mid-1950s, Kerouac mentioned plans to write a book
> called "Visions of Bill," but there is no evidence that he ever began it.
>
>
> Dave
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 1:32 pm
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Hello everyone. I'm from Greece and my English is not what you can call
fluent, so I have only read ON THE ROAD, such as any other Beat texts,
from a translation. anyway, I would like to ask: does City Lights, the
publishing company founded by Ferlinghetti in San Francisco, still
exist?
Are there any other companies publishing Beat authors?
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:36 pm
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Grieger <thanouk01 DeleteThis @yahoo.gr> wrote:

> does City Lights, the
> publishing company founded by Ferlinghetti in San Francisco, still
> exist?

Yes, they are still there and so is the book store.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 5:31 pm
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Secret Mullings About Bill exists at the NYPL as a 9-page lighty
corrected typescript with the title written in Kerouac's hand.

Visions of Bill, written in March 1957, is nothing more than a 2-page
holograph written when Burroughs was in Tangier. Also at NYPL.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 5:55 pm
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Secret Mullings About Bill exists at the NYPL as a 9-page lightly
corrected typescript with the title written in Kerouac's hand.


Visions of Bill, written in March 1957, is nothing more than a 2-page
holograph written when Burroughs was in Tangier. Also at NYPL.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 7:44 am
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Thanks Paul. Can these writings be easily viewed? I remember going to
the rare manuscript room at the NYPL and I was given the 3rd degree. It
was almost like customs at the airport when you're flying abroad.

Gracias




paul_maherjr.RemoveThis@yahoo.com wrote:
> Secret Mullings About Bill exists at the NYPL as a 9-page lightly
> corrected typescript with the title written in Kerouac's hand.
>
>
> Visions of Bill, written in March 1957, is nothing more than a 2-page
> holograph written when Burroughs was in Tangier. Also at NYPL.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 11:05 am
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MP50.TakeThisOut@angelfire.com wrote:
> Thanks Paul. Can these writings be easily viewed? I remember going to
> the rare manuscript room at the NYPL and I was given the 3rd degree. It
> was almost like customs at the airport when you're flying abroad.

With good cause, everything in that room and its adjoining
climate-controlled storage must be worth somewhere in the tens of
millions (Kerouac archive itself cost something like $3,500,000.00.

There are Thoreau's writings on fruit and parts of Walden, Dicken's
first editions in glass cases, Nabokov, Whitman, Joyce, dozens of 17th
(maybe earlier) through 20th century writers, most recently Burroughs .
.. .

The Kerouac archive, extensive as it is, isnt truly complete . . . for
example the Dr. Sax material can't be found there, it may still be in
private ownership.

Like any rare book and manuscript collection, you would need a good
scholarly reason for being there.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 2:03 am
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I had went there to read a Whitman manuscript and I was asked if what
my research credentials were. From what I recall being a ":Whitman
fan" did not suffice. It's a wonder if the short "Mullings" etc stuff
would ever be published.

Thanks.



paul_maherjr RemoveThis @yahoo.com wrote:
> MP50 RemoveThis @angelfire.com wrote:
> > Thanks Paul. Can these writings be easily viewed? I remember going to
> > the rare manuscript room at the NYPL and I was given the 3rd degree. It
> > was almost like customs at the airport when you're flying abroad.
>
> With good cause, everything in that room and its adjoining
> climate-controlled storage must be worth somewhere in the tens of
> millions (Kerouac archive itself cost something like $3,500,000.00.
>
> There are Thoreau's writings on fruit and parts of Walden, Dicken's
> first editions in glass cases, Nabokov, Whitman, Joyce, dozens of 17th
> (maybe earlier) through 20th century writers, most recently Burroughs .
> . .
>
> The Kerouac archive, extensive as it is, isnt truly complete . . . for
> example the Dr. Sax material can't be found there, it may still be in
> private ownership.
>
> Like any rare book and manuscript collection, you would need a good
> scholarly reason for being there.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 2:05 am
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Paul, by the way, did you get to read that short Kerouac manuscript??
If so, can you give us an insight into it?

Thanks again.


paul_maherjr DeleteThis @yahoo.com wrote:
> MP50 DeleteThis @angelfire.com wrote:
> > Thanks Paul. Can these writings be easily viewed? I remember going to
> > the rare manuscript room at the NYPL and I was given the 3rd degree. It
> > was almost like customs at the airport when you're flying abroad.
>
> With good cause, everything in that room and its adjoining
> climate-controlled storage must be worth somewhere in the tens of
> millions (Kerouac archive itself cost something like $3,500,000.00.
>
> There are Thoreau's writings on fruit and parts of Walden, Dicken's
> first editions in glass cases, Nabokov, Whitman, Joyce, dozens of 17th
> (maybe earlier) through 20th century writers, most recently Burroughs .
> . .
>
> The Kerouac archive, extensive as it is, isnt truly complete . . . for
> example the Dr. Sax material can't be found there, it may still be in
> private ownership.
>
> Like any rare book and manuscript collection, you would need a good
> scholarly reason for being there.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 1:35 pm
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which one are you referring to?


The extent of my archive research at the Berg this summer had to do
with notebooks and journals from 1940-1951. All of this will be used
for two future books, one will be out fall 2007, the other in 2009.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 8:32 am
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I was referring to the notebooks regarding Burroughs.


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> The extent of my archive research at the Berg this summer had to do
> with notebooks and journals from 1940-1951. All of this will be used
> for two future books, one will be out fall 2007, the other in 2009.
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