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Marco

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(Msg. 16) Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 12:40 am
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On Nov 16, 3:15 pm, Liz wrote:
> I believe that when people feel like strangers, they are more likely to
> commit crimes against others.

Great point, thank you!

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:06 am
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On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 07:57:37 GMT Murielle QWERTY'd the following:
>I probably
>wouldn't be posting this if there had been guns available to me at ... well,
>any time in my teens.

What do you mean by that?

And what happened to change your outlook on life, if I'm inferring correctly?

Wojo
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:10 am
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On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:16:47 GMT Liz QWERTY'd the following:
>But regarding the spreading of the violence - yes, it seems that we are
>in an age of no concern for one another. Very sad indeed. My doctor says
>she'd like to put prozac in the water. I'd like to add birth control
>with it. Too much anger, too many people and lives that are too busy to
>raise the children with more than the basics - people don't take the
>time to teach responsibility or compassion or decency any more. Too sad.

And thus...

....the rise of conservatism.

And I'm a fan.

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(Msg. 19) Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:01 pm
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"Murielle" wrote in message

>
> "Liz" wrote in message
>
>> Marco wrote:
>>> On Nov 14, 8:34 pm, "Murielle" wrote:
>>>>> I see. Hmm, the stories circulate as "old stuff", presently much less
>>>>> issues happen, or at least less issues are reported. There might have
>>>>> been some work by (police? Government?) on this.
>>>> Or maybe the economy improved?
>>>
>>> Looks like it did. Also, there was a big input of European citizens
>>> [note for the Americans: several British use "European" as opposed to
>>> "British", not to... "African", "American" or whatever] *with* jobs,
>>> especially here in the West. Hmm... no, I don't know how this could
>>> influence the issue, no.
>>
>> I believe that when people feel like strangers, they are more likely to
>> commit crimes against others. People who know everyone around them are
>> less likely to. In a small town where everyone knows everyone, not only
>> do residents care about one another, see one another as human real
>> people, they also know they'll be caught and that the people who they
>> know will be judging them. As one of a bunch of strangers however, it's
>> easier to dehumanize people and commit crimes against them.
>>
>> jmo'd
>> Liz
>
> Excellent point!

Indeed. Which is why the pros suggest your personalize yourself in a crime
situation...talk about yourself and your family. Makes it harder to butcher
someone.

Tina
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clairdelune1

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(Msg. 20) Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:05 pm
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"Wojo" wrote in message

> On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:16:47 GMT Liz QWERTY'd the following:
>>But regarding the spreading of the violence - yes, it seems that we are
>>in an age of no concern for one another. Very sad indeed. My doctor says
>>she'd like to put prozac in the water. I'd like to add birth control
>>with it. Too much anger, too many people and lives that are too busy to
>>raise the children with more than the basics - people don't take the
>>time to teach responsibility or compassion or decency any more. Too sad.
>
> And thus...
>
> ...the rise of conservatism.
>
> And I'm a fan.

I must add that in our elementary school they are teaching "Character
Counts", a program focusing on honesty, responsibility, respect, civics,
etc, which used to be a no-no for California public education.

Tina
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Murielle

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(Msg. 21) Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:15 am
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"Tina" wrote in message

> "Murielle" wrote in message
>
>>
>> "Liz" wrote in message
>>
>>> Marco wrote:
>>>> On Nov 14, 8:34 pm, "Murielle" wrote:
>>>>>> I see. Hmm, the stories circulate as "old stuff", presently much less
>>>>>> issues happen, or at least less issues are reported. There might have
>>>>>> been some work by (police? Government?) on this.
>>>>> Or maybe the economy improved?
>>>>
>>>> Looks like it did. Also, there was a big input of European citizens
>>>> [note for the Americans: several British use "European" as opposed to
>>>> "British", not to... "African", "American" or whatever] *with* jobs,
>>>> especially here in the West. Hmm... no, I don't know how this could
>>>> influence the issue, no.
>>>
>>> I believe that when people feel like strangers, they are more likely to
>>> commit crimes against others. People who know everyone around them are
>>> less likely to. In a small town where everyone knows everyone, not only
>>> do residents care about one another, see one another as human real
>>> people, they also know they'll be caught and that the people who they
>>> know will be judging them. As one of a bunch of strangers however, it's
>>> easier to dehumanize people and commit crimes against them.
>>>
>>> jmo'd
>>> Liz
>>
>> Excellent point!
>
> Indeed. Which is why the pros suggest your personalize yourself in a crime
> situation...talk about yourself and your family. Makes it harder to
> butcher someone.
>
> Tina

Then I wish that everyone remembers this and is able to focus enough to do
it. I dread to think how I would actually react to something like that.

Murielle
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