Religion

I was raised Lutheran and although I stick by my faith it is interesting to
read Rices ideas on religion. I don't say I agree or disagree with it all,
just that it is an interesting take.
I have a hard time accepting hard-line religious fanatics who close their
mind to any other option of how it all had taken place.
None of us will truly know until we leave this place, so it will be
interesting to find out who was right...Mike

"bazer" <cy014f8819 DeleteThis @blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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 > I had a religious up bringing until i was about 8 or 9 but i must admit
 > that i was dragged to church. I had already read most of the cronicals and
 > when I read Hemnoch the devil with having lost all interest in the church
or
 > religion . It got me thinking if how she put it was right did the devil
come
 > to earth to experience the flesh and did god also follow later. It seemed
 > to make sence so of I went to ask my mum who it still a big church goer
..Its
 > funny how if you go to a religious person with another view on religion
they
 > rubbish it strait away . Anyway im still a atheist but i think the way
anne
 > described the start of the church it was all very convincing .
 > bazer
 > "steph" <schteph DeleteThis @soundpimps.com> wrote in message
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  > > I've always loved the way AR's VC books are deeply religious. While
they
  > > are basically Christian to me it seems that it is actually Catholicism
 > that
  > > is the focus. Particularly as Lestat and Armand growing up in Europe
 > which
  > > principally Catholic particularly in those times. Anne herself was/is
  > > Catholic, I was brought up a Caholic and I found 13 years of Catholic
  > > education particularly useful in Memnoch the Devil. I've always
wondered
 > if
  > > the books lose their impact on people who don't have a religious
 > background
  > > or are not religious. Or just find it had to appeciate sins like
breaking
  > > open a Tabernacle or the orders of angels. I myself am an
  > > Athiest.....probably from all that education!
  > >
  > >
 >
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 > I've always loved the way AR's VC books are deeply religious. While they
 > are basically Christian to me it seems that it is actually Catholicism
that
 > is the focus. Particularly as Lestat and Armand growing up in Europe
which
 > principally Catholic particularly in those times. Anne herself was/is
 > Catholic, I was brought up a Caholic and I found 13 years of Catholic
 > education particularly useful in Memnoch the Devil. I've always wondered
if
 > the books lose their impact on people who don't have a religious
background
 > or are not religious. Or just find it had to appeciate sins like breaking
 > open a Tabernacle or the orders of angels. I myself am an
 > Athiest.....probably from all that education!
 >
 >

Funny isn't it? Most people I know (my father's family are all Catholic, or
at least baptised/done their first confirmation), become lapsed Catholics
once they reach their majority. Many of them never return to the Church and
become your most vocal atheists... or become pagans *grin*

For me, because I have my father's family being Catholic and many friends, I
had no problems following the storyline, although I do get venial sins
*grin* mixed up.

Many people I know are Anglican/Protestant... and they have no problems
following the story, but my Jewish friends... many not only hate her style
of writing (heheh one friend complains constantly about the lack of
grammar), but also have serious difficulty following the Catholic rhetoric.

So I guess people of religions outside the Catholic base do have problems
understanding it all. Maybe that does make a difference between those who
LOVE her writing, those who tolerate it and those who outright hate it.

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in article MUGOb.17994$Wa.3168@news-server.bigpond.net.au, Tamara at
laudenum_calla RemoveThis @hotmail.com wrote on 1/18/04 9:02 PM:

 > Funny isn't it? Most people I know (my father's family are all Catholic, or
 > at least baptised/done their first confirmation), become lapsed Catholics
 > once they reach their majority. Many of them never return to the Church and
 > become your most vocal atheists... or become pagans *grin*
 >
 > For me, because I have my father's family being Catholic and many friends, I
 > had no problems following the storyline, although I do get venial sins
 > *grin* mixed up.
 >
 > Many people I know are Anglican/Protestant... and they have no problems
 > following the story, but my Jewish friends... many not only hate her style
 > of writing (heheh one friend complains constantly about the lack of
 > grammar), but also have serious difficulty following the Catholic rhetoric.
 >
 > So I guess people of religions outside the Catholic base do have problems
 > understanding it all. Maybe that does make a difference between those who
 > LOVE her writing, those who tolerate it and those who outright hate it.
 >
 > Tamara... just methinks btw

For another perspective ... I am Jewish and I never got too confused with
her books. Of course I like Anne's style. I found the religious material in
Memnoch very interesting, though (its been a long time since I read it) I
think I didn't always know which parts were considered part of
Christian/Catholic belief and which she was making up. I probably still
don¹t. It did bother me a bit at the time that the VCs were getting so
Christian, but I felt better when she wrote Servant of the Bones.

I wonder BTW what lack of grammar your friend was thinking of.... I never
noticed many problems in that area, but maybe my brain just ignored them.

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"JR" <fuscian.DeleteThis@optonline.net> wrote in message
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 > in article MUGOb.17994$Wa.3168@news-server.bigpond.net.au, Tamara at
 > laudenum_calla.DeleteThis@hotmail.com wrote on 1/18/04 9:02 PM:
 >
  > > Funny isn't it? Most people I know (my father's family are all Catholic,
or
  > > at least baptised/done their first confirmation), become lapsed
Catholics
  > > once they reach their majority. Many of them never return to the Church
and
  > > become your most vocal atheists... or become pagans *grin*
  > >
  > > For me, because I have my father's family being Catholic and many
friends, I
  > > had no problems following the storyline, although I do get venial sins
  > > *grin* mixed up.
  > >
  > > Many people I know are Anglican/Protestant... and they have no problems
  > > following the story, but my Jewish friends... many not only hate her
style
  > > of writing (heheh one friend complains constantly about the lack of
  > > grammar), but also have serious difficulty following the Catholic
rhetoric.
  > >
  > > So I guess people of religions outside the Catholic base do have
problems
  > > understanding it all. Maybe that does make a difference between those
who
  > > LOVE her writing, those who tolerate it and those who outright hate it.
  > >
  > > Tamara... just methinks btw
 >
 > For another perspective ... I am Jewish and I never got too confused with
 > her books. Of course I like Anne's style. I found the religious material
in
 > Memnoch very interesting, though (its been a long time since I read it) I
 > think I didn't always know which parts were considered part of
 > Christian/Catholic belief and which she was making up. I probably still
 > don¹t. It did bother me a bit at the time that the VCs were getting so
 > Christian, but I felt better when she wrote Servant of the Bones.
 >
 > I wonder BTW what lack of grammar your friend was thinking of.... I never
 > noticed many problems in that area, but maybe my brain just ignored them.
 >
 > Josh
 >

I loved Servant of the Bones. The research she had to have done was pretty
intense. I asked Tam (my jewish/pagan friend) questions regarding the
Hasidan (spelling??) and Tam was surprised at the accuracy.

As for the grammar... no idea, just the writing style jarred with her I
think. It's like the first time I read "Closed for Winter" by Georgia Blain
(Australian author, just brilliant), the writing style jarred with me...
until I realised she was writing as we speak. In speech rythyms, rather than
"correct" grammar. Once I got into that pattern, I fell in love with her
novel.

And thanks for your perspective, I hadn't realised that her catholicism
could cause problems for other readers of different religions. (obviously
not for you though *smile*)

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