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Rob

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(Msg. 16) Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:11 pm
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I was doing the same thing with the Tommyknockers book. ALthough I though
Jimmy Smits was a great Gardner, I thought Maybe Sarah Michelle Gellar would
have been a better Bobbi, especially with her look from the movie "The
Return" is just was SK decribed in the book is how Bobbi Looked like.

On the Stand, I think that the guy who played Mr. Fantastic in the Fantasic
4 would have been a great Larry Underwood.

Rob

"Tamara CallaLilly" wrote in message

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> "Rob" wrote in message
>
>> You know, I enjoyed the interaction of Bobby and Gard myself..call me
>> crazy, but I liked the non-traditional way the whole thing between them
>> ended. I couldnt think of a worse way to die than how Bobby did, and
>> Gard had to commit the final, most gruesome act of freindship. I know we
>> all want a happy ending when we read something, but that is why I like
>> the book so much. (For that reason also is why I hate the movie...they
>> changed it to a typical hollywood ending) *sigh*
>>
>> Right now I'm into the Stand. Its funny what you catch the 2nd time
>> around that you didnt the first time.
>>
>> Rob
>
> or the 8th or 28th time *lol* I'm reading the original Stand again and I
> have to PUSH OUT OF MY HEAD the movie version and hearing the voices of
> the actors (Nick played by that smug Rob Lowe, Molly Ringwald as Fran... )
> and it's actually giving me the irrits.
>
> I do like the interplay of the characters in it and the visitation of good
> vs bad and the choices and alignments. I also find it interesting to take
> note that all the 'techies' went and aligned themselves with Flagg because
> of his 'order'.
>
> Tamara
>>
>> "Bev Vincent" wrote in message
>>
>>>
>>> "Jim Odell" wrote in message
>>>
>>>
>>>> D'accord. I liked the book as well. The general weirdness mixed in with
>>>> a sort of a sense of wonder suited me. As for the drug thing, try
>>>> reading Billy Burroughs. Now that's one addicted doggie.
>>>
>>> To my mind, King lost the thread on this one. The opening section is
>>> fascinating. I love Bobbi and Gard. But then he abandons them for
>>> several
>>> inches of pages and all I wanted was to get back to their story. I
>>> didn't
>>> care about all these other characters and their issues. I wanted more
>>> Bobbi
>>> and Gard. That meant I read though a chunk of text just to get through
>>> it,
>>> hoping to get back to B&G, which ruined the book for me. I've reread it,
>>> and
>>> that feeling persists.
>>> --
>>> Bev Vincent
>>> www.BevVincent.com
>>>
>>>
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>>
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kenw

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:44 pm
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On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:35:59 -0700 Scoot QWERTY'd the following:
>I only read TOMMYKNOCKERS upon its initial release. Just the one time
>time and I completely enjoyed the experience. Some parts of that book
>are so good as to rank among King's finest. Imagine to my horror that
>nearly everyone else who talked about the book could only say bad
>things about it. I wondered if they, or I, read a different
>TOMMYKNOCKERS. Didn't matter. I read it. I enjoyed it. And have a
>good memory of the experience. Those that didn't like it, well, too
>bad. You missed a great book.

So why did you only read it once?

Wondered,
Wojo
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kenw

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(Msg. 18) Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:53 pm
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On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 22:20:23 -0600 hot toddy QWERTY'd the following:
>Different strokes for different folks, I suppose. More power to anyone
>who can take pleasure in a book that to me is - by far - King's worst.
>
>Todd
>poking his head in

Nice poke Todd, and good to see ya, but....worst book ever?

I'm not nearly at 100% and The Tommyknocker's is certainly not his best work,
but to say it's his worst? Have you read Buick 8 or TGWLTG or anything else
he's written in the past 20 years? How is Tommyknockers NOT more fun to read
than, say, Gerald's Game, or, dare I say, again, The Girl Who Loved Tom Gordon?

I'm an SK fan of more years than I care to admit, and LIKED
Tommyknockers...including, and probably particularly including the part you skip
every time.

Why read Wizard and Glass knowing that eventually nearly everyone in it will
die? Because the story matters far more than the outcome.

Why read ANY book twice, since you already know the outcome? Because it's
ENTERTAINING to do so.

Tommyknockers is far from SK's best work, but putting aside the collegiate
complaints it's still a very entertaining book that I've been defending for
years.

Wojo
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kenw

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(Msg. 19) Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:55 pm
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On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 03:18:25 GMT Tamara CallaLilly QWERTY'd the following:
>> Different strokes for different folks, I suppose. More power to anyone
>> who can take pleasure in a book that to me is - by far - King's worst.
>>
>> Todd
>> poking his head in
>
>No, for me, that would have to be Cell.

Interesting.

I thought Cell was fantastic and should have been about quadruple it's size.

Wojo
Thinks it was more of a manuscript for a move than a novel, but was sad when it
ended.
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kenw

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(Msg. 20) Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:02 am
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On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:53:52 GMT Bev Vincent QWERTY'd the following:
>> D'accord. I liked the book as well. The general weirdness mixed in with
>> a sort of a sense of wonder suited me. As for the drug thing, try
>> reading Billy Burroughs. Now that's one addicted doggie.
>
>To my mind, King lost the thread on this one. The opening section is
>fascinating. I love Bobbi and Gard. But then he abandons them for several
>inches of pages and all I wanted was to get back to their story. I didn't
>care about all these other characters and their issues. I wanted more Bobbi
>and Gard. That meant I read though a chunk of text just to get through it,
>hoping to get back to B&G, which ruined the book for me. I've reread it, and
>that feeling persists.

Bev,

Didn't you feel the same way after the opening of Wizard and Glass?

I imagine you got over it though, yes?

I don't disagree with you entirely, but don't you think the added characters
added both context and depth, particularly given that both Gard and Bobbi were
significantly flawed? And didn't the perspective created by those around them
add to your knowledge of those inherent flaws? Did your understanding of the
threat increase or decrease after reading the asides?

Wojo
Thinks too many people mis-read Tommyknockers
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maxdevore

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(Msg. 21) Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 2:35 pm
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"Wojo" wrote in message

> On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:53:52 GMT Bev Vincent QWERTY'd the following:

> >To my mind, King lost the thread on this one. The opening section is
> >fascinating. I love Bobbi and Gard. But then he abandons them for several
> >inches of pages and all I wanted was to get back to their story. I didn't
> >care about all these other characters and their issues. I wanted more
Bobbi
> >and Gard. That meant I read though a chunk of text just to get through
it,
> >hoping to get back to B&G, which ruined the book for me. I've reread it,
and
> >that feeling persists.

> Didn't you feel the same way after the opening of Wizard and Glass?
> I imagine you got over it though, yes?
>
> I don't disagree with you entirely, but don't you think the added
characters
> added both context and depth, particularly given that both Gard and Bobbi
were
> significantly flawed? And didn't the perspective created by those around
them
> add to your knowledge of those inherent flaws? Did your understanding of
the
> threat increase or decrease after reading the asides?

No, I didn't feel that way after the opening of Wizard and Glass -- because
King didn't ditch his main character, he explored him.

In Tommyknockers, I didn't find any other characters I cared a whit about. I
had the same problem with Needful Things. It was just a book with people
behaving badly and I thought they all got what they deserved.
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Scott F. Feighner

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(Msg. 22) Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 3:17 pm
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On Nov 20, 10:44�pm, Wojo wrote:
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> So why did you only read it once?
>
> Wondered,
> Wojo

Hard to say for certain why only one read. BUT, traditionally, a book
has to be really extraordinary for me to read it more than once. The
Stand has had multi reads. As has two of the four stories in
Different Seasons. SL & The Shining have also had multi-reads.
Some of Steinbecks work, Cannery Row & Of Mice and Men;
Grendal by John Gardner, Confereracy of Dunces by O'Toole, In Cold
Blood by Capote, and Birdy, Dad & Midnight Clear by William Wharton
are among the few that get multiple readings. There are others of
course, including several by Ray Bradbury and three by Peter Straub,
but, I mostly look for the adventure in reading, so I tend to keep
moving forward. Not all books are THE KEEP by F Paul Wilson or Blood
and Money by Thomas Thompson and get more than one or two reads.

This probably doesn't really answer your question, but I hope it
points in the right direction as to why Dreamcatcher and not
Tommyknockers got picked up again.

Take care...

Scott F. Feighner
Only Time Will Tell...
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clairdelune1

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(Msg. 23) Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:58 am
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"Bev Vincent"

<snip>> In Tommyknockers, I didn't find any other characters I cared a whit
about. I
> had the same problem with Needful Things. It was just a book with people
> behaving badly and I thought they all got what they deserved.

That's it in a nutshell! Damn!

Tina
Hated the poor dog part as well....
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 2:17 am
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As many of SK's books I have re-read,only the stand gives me new insights
(and chills) each time I've read it......
now I am a hopeless diabetic (numbers stay above 220 and I am on SUPER
insulin U-500 for those who know what it is) query; Would audio stand be the
same? is it even out?if so who narrates it?
Thanks
Irish
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:24 am
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On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 22:20:23 -0600, "hot toddy"
wrote:

>Different strokes for different folks, I suppose. More power to anyone
>who can take pleasure in a book that to me is - by far - King's worst.
>
>Todd
>poking his head in
>

Hey, Todd,

I didn't like Tommyknockers, either. Had to struggle to finish it.


Jamie
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(Msg. 26) Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 4:19 pm
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Different strokes for different folks, I suppose. More power to anyone
>who can take pleasure in a book that to me is - by far - King's worst.
>
Put me down on the side of liking Tommyknockers. My neighbor hated it. Go
figure.
Rande...
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(Msg. 27) Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 7:19 pm
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Jamie H wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 22:20:23 -0600, "hot toddy"
> wrote:
>
>> Different strokes for different folks, I suppose. More power to anyone
>> who can take pleasure in a book that to me is - by far - King's worst.
>>
>> Todd
>> poking his head in
>>
>
> Hey, Todd,
>
> I didn't like Tommyknockers, either. Had to struggle to finish it.
>
>
> Jamie
>

About 400 pages into a re-read of the paperback here. It could be cut
back by half; it would move along faster. I still like it despite the
bloat.
My worst was Regulators, an incoherent translation of a nightmare.

Jim Odell
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