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Since: Apr 14, 2004 Posts: 1
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 2:54 pm
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I assume you all have seen the trailer. If you're anything like me
(lifelong fan of IA's short stories), I suppose I can assume you're
equally angry about the way the movie perverts Asimov's masterpiece.
And so I've created a small petition to allow us to vent a bit of our
anger.
The petition is as follows:
"I, Robot" was a collection of previously published short stories by
Isaac Asimov in which a connective thread of a old roboticist conveyed
the history of robots within her life to a reporter. The most central
feature of nearly all the stories are the three laws of robotics,
which are:
"1. A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow
a human being to come to harm.
2. A robot must obey orders given to it by human beings except where
such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection
does not conflict with the First or the Second Law."
Another overriding theme throughout the stories is the general
mistrust of robots by most of society, while the narrator and the
stories she tells portray how the robots are, in fact, fundmentally
good. Indeed, she remarks she has found their company to be preferable
to humans. In the final story, humans have become dependent on massive
robot machines which, through the laws, lead Earth into an era of
greater peace and prosperity. In short, the robots are the good guys.
The line "laws were made to be broken" has been used in connection
with the film. However, rather than societal laws humans are more or
less free to break and accept punishment for, they are laws in the
sense of the Law of Gravity; it is impossible for a robot to act in
conflict with the three laws. The three laws are the robot—their
positronic brains cannot function outside of them.
The upcoming movie "I, Robot" claims to be based on this novel.
However, the film takes more than the usual creative liberties... it
in fact portrays the exact opposite of the message of the novel! The
novel paints a picture of a world that cruelly distrusts undeserving
robots. The filmmakers, apparently, wished to have a movie about a
robot revolution. This ordinarily would be acceptable—it is a common
concept and I have nothing against it. What makes the novel "I, Robot"
different is that is shows something completely different: a world
afraid of a robot revolution that never happens and never will.
Therefore, the upcoming film is in no way based on the story or the
message of the novel (apart from "having some robots in it") and
should not share the same name.
End petition.
If you're remotely interested in preserving Asimov's message and
Asimov's works, please sign it.
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Since: Jul 29, 2003 Posts: 54
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 11:17 pm
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A few comments, interspersed with some selected text.
pk wrote:
> I assume you all have seen the trailer.
Actually, I haven't, but a friend of mine has.
> Another overriding theme throughout the stories is the general
> mistrust of robots by most of society, while the narrator and the
> stories she tells portray how the robots are, in fact, fundmentally
> good. Indeed, she remarks she has found their company to be preferable
> to humans. In the final story, humans have become dependent on massive
> robot machines which, through the laws, lead Earth into an era of
> greater peace and prosperity. In short, the robots are the good guys.
That phrase "have become dependent" carries negative connotations. If
I agreed with it, I would not conclude that the robots were "the good
guys." I would conclude that they have adapted us, possibly to our
detriment. You might say "rely on" as a more neutral way to express
much the same thing.
> The line "laws were made to be broken" has been used in connection
> with the film. However, rather than societal laws humans are more or
> less free to break and accept punishment for, they are laws in the
> sense of the Law of Gravity; it is impossible for a robot to act in
> conflict with the three laws. The three laws are the robot--their
> positronic brains cannot function outside of them.
I do not agree with your characterization of the three laws as being
similar to Newton's law of gravity or his three laws of motion. Those
laws are simply a description of the way that Nature behaves. They
are not design requirements. If Nature detectably behaved some other
way, Newton would have written a different set of laws. In fact, she
does behave differently, but in so subtle a way that it took a couple
of centuries before we found out.
On the other hand, Asimov's laws *are* design requirements. The laws
are not simply an observer's description of the way robots behave, but
are taken into account when designing them. In a way, that means we
know more about the robots, but as any computer programmer knows, it
opens the possibility for completely unforeseen consequences. Asimov
wrote many stories in which a conflict arises within three laws which,
on the face of it, do not appear to admit of conflicts.
I do disagree with the assertion that laws were made to be broken. It
has always seemed like an excuse to break a law that others follow.
But because of the way Asimov's laws are used in the stories, I also
disagree that robots are incapable of acting in conflict with them. I
would say that they are only incapable of doing so when the three laws
themselves do not conflict (and conceivably not even then).
> The upcoming movie "I, Robot" claims to be based on this novel.
I have heard a rumor (possibly here on this newsgroup--I don't recall)
that work on the movie was already well under way before someone noticed
that there was an Asimov book by the same name. Is that so?
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 1:19 am
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In article <fa7083f5.0404141054.4a9a54f2.TakeThisOut@posting.google.com>,
pikeiji.TakeThisOut@yahoo.ie (pk) wrote:
> I assume you all have seen the trailer. If you're anything like me
> (lifelong fan of IA's short stories), I suppose I can assume you're
> equally angry about the way the movie perverts Asimov's masterpiece.
> And so I've created a small petition to allow us to vent a bit of our
> anger.
The movie is already "in the can". It's made and is going to be playing
at theaters. Asimov is dead and buried. Nobody gives a rat's ass what we
think. Signing this petition is stupid.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: "I, Robot" movie |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 9:40 am
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"pk" <pikeiji.DeleteThis@yahoo.ie> wrote in message
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> The upcoming movie "I, Robot" claims to be based on this novel.
I have never seen such a claim. Do you have any evidence whatsoever for
this claim?
Are you sure you have read "I , Robot" anyway? It is, in fact, not a novel.
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Since: Jul 29, 2003 Posts: 54
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 10:02 am
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Elijah Baley wrote:
> The movie is already "in the can". It's made and is going to be playing
> at theaters. Asimov is dead and buried. Nobody gives a rat's ass what we
> think. Signing this petition is stupid.
I didn't address that in my post, but unfortunately, I quite agree.
As I understand it, the movie has little to do with Asimov's book, and
to suggest that it does (by mention of Asimov's laws) is remarkably
wrong, in my opinion. Too bad, as you say, that no one gives a RA.
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Since: Mar 03, 2004 Posts: 265
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 7:20 pm
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"Jason Rhodes" <jasondrhodes.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>"pk" <pikeiji.RemoveThis@yahoo.ie> wrote
>> The upcoming movie "I, Robot" claims to be based on this novel.
>I have never seen such a claim. Do you have any evidence whatsoever for
>this claim?
Then you haven't looked very far. A quick look at
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.imdb.com" target="_blank">http://www.imdb.com</a> found
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0343818/," target="_blank">http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0343818/,</a> the listing for I, Robot,
in which the credits include:
I, Robot (2004)
Directed by
Alex Proyas
Writing credits
Isaac Asimov (book)
Akiva Goldsman (screenplay)
Since the Internet Movie Data Base takes this sort of info from
the official credits as they appear in the movie, I would say
pk's claim is valid.
I could also say you are a really stupid boob for not doing such
a simple check yourself before posting here and confirming you
are a stupid boob; but I promised my wife I would be more
even-tempered and tolerant on Usenet, to keep my blood pressure
down, so I won't call you a boob.
>Are you sure you have read "I , Robot" anyway? It is, in fact, not a novel.
I suspect most of us here read I, Robot long before you were even
a gleam in your father's eye; what, 14, 15 years ago?
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Since: Mar 12, 2004 Posts: 7
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 11:29 pm
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> I have never seen such a claim. Do you have any evidence whatsoever for
> this claim?
>
Well, since it contains a certain 'Susan Calvin' character...
A company calls U.S. Robotics...
The three laws of robotics...
And the Yahoo Movie website claims : "Will Smith stars in this action
thriller inspired by the classic short story collection by Isaac Asimov..."
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hv&cf=info&id=1808461629&intl=us" target="_blank">http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hv&cf=info&id=1808461629&intl=us</a>
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 11:30 pm
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> I have heard a rumor (possibly here on this newsgroup--I don't recall)
> that work on the movie was already well under way before someone noticed
> that there was an Asimov book by the same name. Is that so?
Nope. The original screenplay was originally called 'Hardwired' and then was
re-written, probably for the extra publicity of being based on an Isaac
Asimov short story collection, to include Susan Calvin and to make it seem
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Since: Jul 30, 2003 Posts: 8
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 6:23 am
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"Ogden Johnson III" <oj3usmc RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Jason Rhodes" <jasondrhodes RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
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> >"pk" <pikeiji RemoveThis @yahoo.ie> wrote
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> >> The upcoming movie "I, Robot" claims to be based on this novel.
>
> >I have never seen such a claim. Do you have any evidence whatsoever for
> >this claim?
>
> Then you haven't looked very far. A quick look at
> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.imdb.com" target="_blank">http://www.imdb.com</a> found
>
> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0343818/," target="_blank">http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0343818/,</a> the listing for I, Robot,
> in which the credits include:
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> I, Robot (2004)
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> Directed by
> Alex Proyas
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> Writing credits
> Isaac Asimov (book)
> Akiva Goldsman (screenplay)
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> Since the Internet Movie Data Base takes this sort of info from
> the official credits as they appear in the movie, I would say
> pk's claim is valid.
Rather than make puerile ad-hominem attacks, I think I'll just stick to the
facts.
The movie is not out yet so the IMDB entry is not based on the credits as
they appear in the movie. IMDB information is often submitted in an
unofficial way and is therefore subject to errors. Nowhere on IMDB does it
claim that this movie is "based on" the book of short stories by Asimov.
In fact the official movie site (http://www.irobotmovie.com/) only says that
the movie is "suggested by" Asimov's short story collection. This, in my
opinion, is a far cry from a claim that this is based on the short story
collection.
Further, I've followed the development of this film for years at sites such
as <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.darkhorizons.com/2004/irobot.php" target="_blank">http://www.darkhorizons.com/2004/irobot.php</a> which prints movie news and
rumors (and clearly distinguishes between the two). As stated elsewhere in
this thread, this movie was already well under development when the decision
was made to buy the rights to "I, Robot" in order to use the title and a few
assorted plot elements (but not the plots) from the stories therein.
So, I have, in fact, done my research well beyond simply looking the movie
up on IMDB and inferring from a single writing credit on that site that the
movie is being officially marketed as "based on" Asimov's short stories. If
someone can find some substantial support for the premise that this movie is
supposed to be based on (rather than "inspired by") Asimov's stories, I'd be
interested to see it. As it is now, putting Asimov's name on the movie is
no more disingenuous than putting it on Tiedemann's Robot books. I enjoy
his
books and feel that he strives to be true to Asimov's Universe. Since I
have not seen the movie yet, I'll have to give it the same benefit of the
doubt, despite any misgivings I have based on past experiences with Asimov
books turned into movies.
> I could also say you are a really stupid boob for not doing such
> a simple check yourself before posting here and confirming you
> are a stupid boob; but I promised my wife I would be more
> even-tempered and tolerant on Usenet, to keep my blood pressure
> down, so I won't call you a boob.
>
> >Are you sure you have read "I , Robot" anyway? It is, in fact, not a
novel.
>
> I suspect most of us here read I, Robot long before you were even
> a gleam in your father's eye; what, 14, 15 years ago?
> --
> OJ III
At the risk of breaking my earlier vow not to lower myself to ad hominem
attacks, I have to say that I am disappointed in you Ogden. As a regular on
this group for many years, I have always valued your opinion. You are, in
my opinion, certainly the most well read in SF of any regular poster on this
group. Your years of experience in and out of the military often give you
an interesting perspective on a variety of issues discussed here when we can
break away from recommending the order to read the Foundation novels. I
guess I am just surprised by the lack of effort you put into checking what
you wrote and by you resorting to personal attacks to make an argument that
I feel is flawed.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 2:16 pm
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Since I
> have not seen the movie yet, I'll have to give it the same benefit of the
> doubt, despite any misgivings I have based on past experiences with Asimov
> books turned into movies.
>
What, you didn't like 'Nightfall'?
BFD!
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat May 01, 2004 11:53 pm
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If we don't all hang together, then most assuredly we will hang separately.
Now is not the time to fight among ourselves. We all love the book _I, Robot_,
whether we choose to call it a novel or short story collection, and fear the
movie. That should be the point of this thread.
I agree with the original poster and the one who said nobody gives a rat's ass
what we think. I saw the trailer late last night while half asleep. I was
hoping it was a nightmare.
WHY?! WHY!? WHY1?
Why (I wish somebody would make it clear to me) do they make movies claiming to
be based on the work of some known and widely read author if they are going to
piss off the writer's fans? They already have the advantages of having the
story worked out and a ready made audience. And yet...
Although I have to admit that _The Wizard of Oz_ which has noticeable changes,
is the exception to the rule. The climax IMHO is better in the movie. I think
Baum had wirtten or told himself into a corner when the Witch captured Dorothy
and he said to himself something like"...and then...uh...uh..I know! She throws
a bucket of water on the Witch and she melts!" It doesn't seem to have
occurred to him that Dorothy's friends might try to rescue her. The Witch
still melts when in contact with water, but it happens in a musch more exiting
way. IMHO.
And while I loved the movie _Forrest Gump_, I found the novel (which I never
heard of before the movie) to be lackluster. This was a case of a little known
novel being changed, with a minimum of fans to disappoint. And while I respect
those with rational arguments against the movie, I still find it well done and
get caught up in it.
>"Jason Rhodes" <jasondrhodes.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>"pk" <pikeiji.DeleteThis@yahoo.ie> wrote
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>>> The upcoming movie "I, Robot" claims to be based on this novel.
>
>>I have never seen such a claim. Do you have any evidence whatsoever for
>>this claim?
>
>Then you haven't looked very far. A quick look at
>http://www.imdb.com found
>
>http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0343818/, the listing for I, Robot,
>in which the credits include:
>
>I, Robot (2004)
>
>Directed by
>Alex Proyas
>
>Writing credits
>Isaac Asimov (book)
>Akiva Goldsman (screenplay)
>
>Since the Internet Movie Data Base takes this sort of info from
>the official credits as they appear in the movie, I would say
>pk's claim is valid.
>
>I could also say you are a really stupid boob for not doing such
>a simple check yourself before posting here and confirming you
>are a stupid boob; but I promised my wife I would be more
>even-tempered and tolerant on Usenet, to keep my blood pressure
>down, so I won't call you a boob.
>
>>Are you sure you have read "I , Robot" anyway? It is, in fact, not a novel.
>
>I suspect most of us here read I, Robot long before you were even
>a gleam in your father's eye; what, 14, 15 years ago?
>--
>OJ III
>[Email sent to Yahoo address is burned before reading.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sun May 02, 2004 12:13 am
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>From: donovanmedieval
>And while I loved the movie _Forrest Gump_, I found the novel (which I never
>heard of before the movie) to be lackluster. This was a case of a little
>known
>novel being changed, with a minimum of fans to disappoint. And while I
>respect
>those with rational arguments against the movie, I still find it well done
>and
>get caught up in it.
I am with you. A lot of the time, all too much of the time, a Hollywood
adaptation just trashes the initial work, with no good reason. It might be
writers who really have no knowlege of science fiction (or whatever the genre
is) and probably just read an assistant's summary of the work, then go to it.
The producers, directors and actors may be in the same position. Given modern
movie making costs, and how much money can be lost on a bomb, it seems like
time for researching both the genre and the actual work would be a good
investment.
I also agree that on occasion the movie is as good as the book, or maybe
better. I think James Bond works better in movie format than in book format.
I think Gone With the Wind was a fantastic adaptation of a fantastic novel.
Take a look at two adaptations of the work or Robert A. Heinlein. The Puppet
Masters was no better than an average movie, maybe even a little subpar. It
was a reasonable adaptation of the novel though, without changing the story
line so much that it was no longer the same story. Then look at the travesty
of the Starship Troopers movie. Ok, it is future infantry fighting a race of
giant bugs. The similarities end there though. The story was completely
reworked and no longer was the same story as the book. I don't know if you
could say it actually bombed, as such, but I just checked IMDb and box office
and rentals add up to several million less than the cost of making it.
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Anybody Remember Will Smith's 'Wild, Wild West'..? It was a huge flop.
Remember Allan Parson's 'I, Robot'? It had nothing to do with the novel
and made no claims to do so. I don't think people will remember one
movie. However they do remember the 2oo + books written by Asimov. Sci
Fi in the movies is eye candy. It's not SF. Most of these movie goers
will not have even read 20 SF books in their lives. Whether or not it's
true to Asimov's stories won't matter to them. They'll just think 'I,
Robot' is a cool name for a movie. These are the same people who thought
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 8:06 am
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In article <fa7083f5.0404141054.4a9a54f2 DeleteThis @posting.google.com>, pk <pikeiji DeleteThis @yahoo.ie> wrote:
: I assume you all have seen the trailer. If you're anything like me
: (lifelong fan of IA's short stories), I suppose I can assume you're
: equally angry about the way the movie perverts Asimov's masterpiece.
According to the information at the IMDb website, the movie _I, Robot_
was not originally supposed to have had anything to do with Asimov's
stories, and in fact was going to be released under a different title.
Only at some late stage in the process did they buy the rights and change
two character names to those appearing in Asimov's stories. My guess --
and this is only a guess, mind you -- is that the name change was *not*
made to draw in the legions of Asimov fans. Rather, I suspect that at some
point, someone in the studio's legal department discovered some kind of
minor overlap between the movie and the short stories (a reference to the
Three Laws or whatever). The producers then presumably figured that rather
than rewrite the entire thing, it would have been easier just to buy the
rights to the book and change the title of the movie.
Something similar happened in the _Star Trek_ (OS) episode "Arena," which
Gene Coon wrote without realizing its similarities to a novel by Frederic
Brown. So the studio bought the rights to the novel and pretended that
they had intended to do an adaptation all along.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 7:07 pm
Post subject: Re: "I, Robot" movie [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Richard Schultz wrote:
> In article <fa7083f5.0404141054.4a9a54f2.DeleteThis@posting.google.com>, pk
> <pikeiji.DeleteThis@yahoo.ie> wrote:
>> I assume you all have seen the trailer. If you're anything like me
>> (lifelong fan of IA's short stories), I suppose I can assume you're
>> equally angry about the way the movie perverts Asimov's masterpiece.
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> According to the information at the IMDb website, the movie _I, Robot_
> was not originally supposed to have had anything to do with Asimov's
> stories, and in fact was going to be released under a different title.
> Only at some late stage in the process did they buy the rights and
> change
> two character names to those appearing in Asimov's stories. My guess
> --
> and this is only a guess, mind you -- is that the name change was
> *not*
> made to draw in the legions of Asimov fans. Rather, I suspect that
> at some
> point, someone in the studio's legal department discovered some kind
> of
> minor overlap between the movie and the short stories (a reference to
> the
> Three Laws or whatever). The producers then presumably figured that
> rather
> than rewrite the entire thing, it would have been easier just to buy
> the
> rights to the book and change the title of the movie.
>
> Something similar happened in the _Star Trek_ (OS) episode "Arena,"
> which
> Gene Coon wrote without realizing its similarities to a novel by
> Frederic
> Brown. So the studio bought the rights to the novel and pretended
> that
> they had intended to do an adaptation all along.
The use of Asimov's name is probably to make it easier for sequels.
Maybe they will take it all the way to bastardizing the foundation series.
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> Richard Schultz schultr.DeleteThis@mail.biu.ac.il
> Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel
> Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan
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