Rogue's powers

"Hazardcore" <rogue_sugah @ (deleteme) yahoo dot com> wrote in
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 >
  >> (but the term "bad girl" gives me about as many horible 90s
  >> flashbacks as variant covers and foil trading card inserts)
 >
 > Ewww, now why did you have to bring that up!!! I was doing just fine
 > ignoring the variant revival we're going through, and there ya are
 > dragging it in here...

Well, with X-Force coming out with what seems to be an ongoing title,
all those memories are bound to come flooding back! On the bright side,
Liefeld seems to have improved. If you compare the cover of the
original X-Force #1 to the new one, the difference is tremendous. His
biggest problem still seems to be women's breasts, particularly
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"Dan McEwen" <dannyboymcny.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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 > "Hazardcore" <rogue_sugah @ (deleteme) yahoo dot com> wrote in
 > news:40b581bc_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com:
 >
  > >
   > >> (but the term "bad girl" gives me about as many horible 90s
   > >> flashbacks as variant covers and foil trading card inserts)
  > >
  > > Ewww, now why did you have to bring that up!!! I was doing just fine
  > > ignoring the variant revival we're going through, and there ya are
  > > dragging it in here...
 >
 > Well, with X-Force coming out with what seems to be an ongoing title,
 > all those memories are bound to come flooding back! On the bright side,
 > Liefeld seems to have improved. If you compare the cover of the
 > original X-Force #1 to the new one, the difference is tremendous. His
 > biggest problem still seems to be women's breasts, particularly
 > Domino's.

I always found that Liefeld's biggest problem was that companies still keep
giving him work...<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Hazardcore wrote:
   >>>> (but the term "bad girl" gives me about as many horible 90s
   >>>> flashbacks as variant covers and foil trading card inserts)
   >>>
   >>> Ewww, now why did you have to bring that up!!! I was doing just fine
   >>> ignoring the variant revival we're going through, and there ya are
   >>> dragging it in here...
  >>
  >> Well, with X-Force coming out with what seems to be an ongoing title,
  >> all those memories are bound to come flooding back! On the bright side,
  >> Liefeld seems to have improved. If you compare the cover of the
  >> original X-Force #1 to the new one, the difference is tremendous. His
  >> biggest problem still seems to be women's breasts, particularly
  >> Domino's.
 >
 > I always found that Liefeld's biggest problem was that companies still keep
 > giving him work...

The root of the problem is that people keep buying his books...
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"The Black Guardian" <blakgard.DeleteThis@aol.coma.org> wrote in message
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 > Hazardcore wrote:
   > >>>> (but the term "bad girl" gives me about as many horible 90s
   > >>>> flashbacks as variant covers and foil trading card inserts)
   > >>>
   > >>> Ewww, now why did you have to bring that up!!! I was doing just fine
   > >>> ignoring the variant revival we're going through, and there ya are
   > >>> dragging it in here...
   > >>
   > >> Well, with X-Force coming out with what seems to be an ongoing title,
   > >> all those memories are bound to come flooding back! On the bright
side,
   > >> Liefeld seems to have improved. If you compare the cover of the
   > >> original X-Force #1 to the new one, the difference is tremendous. His
   > >> biggest problem still seems to be women's breasts, particularly
   > >> Domino's.
  > >
  > > I always found that Liefeld's biggest problem was that companies still
keep
  > > giving him work...
 >
 > The root of the problem is that people keep buying his books...
 > --

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   >> >> Well, with X-Force coming out with what seems to be an ongoing title,
   >> >> all those memories are bound to come flooding back! On the bright
 >side,
   >> >> Liefeld seems to have improved. If you compare the cover of the
   >> >> original X-Force #1 to the new one, the difference is tremendous. His
   >> >> biggest problem still seems to be women's breasts, particularly
   >> >> Domino's.
   >> >
   >> > I always found that Liefeld's biggest problem was that companies still
 >keep
   >> > giving him work...
  >>
  >> The root of the problem is that people keep buying his books...
  >> --
 >
 >Don't look at me! Istopped buying the original New Mutants because of him.

Hear, hear! My New Mutants collection is incomplete because
of Mr. L. (whose biggest problem at the time seemed to be feet,
which he kept hiding in clouds of mist etc., IIRC).

Tilman


"Who wants to read something about this subject will find it in a book, the
title of which I've forgotten. But it's the 42nd chapter."
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"Menshevik" <menshevik.TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote in message
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   > >> >> Well, with X-Force coming out with what seems to be an ongoing
title,
   > >> >> all those memories are bound to come flooding back! On the bright
  > >side,
   > >> >> Liefeld seems to have improved. If you compare the cover of the
   > >> >> original X-Force #1 to the new one, the difference is tremendous.
His
   > >> >> biggest problem still seems to be women's breasts, particularly
   > >> >> Domino's.
   > >> >
   > >> > I always found that Liefeld's biggest problem was that companies
still
  > >keep
   > >> > giving him work...
   > >>
   > >> The root of the problem is that people keep buying his books...
   > >> --
  > >
  > >Don't look at me! Istopped buying the original New Mutants because of
him.
 >
 > Hear, hear! My New Mutants collection is incomplete because
 > of Mr. L. (whose biggest problem at the time seemed to be feet,
 > which he kept hiding in clouds of mist etc., IIRC).
 >
 > Tilman

I can tolerate a lot of things in comics... retconning, passing a blind eye
toward variants, screwball plot lines... hell, I can even handle Austen's
writing! So I consider myself pretty open minded in the world of creative
cockups.

But Liefeld... ooooh, Liefeld just grates with me. I just don't "get it"...
what's to like about his work?! Can't draw hands, feet, knees or elbows. All
his faces are either permanent grimaces or yelling. Women look like they've
got a football cut in half under their tops instead or real breast. THUNDER
THIGHS & PINHEAD MANIA, why do they all have huge bodies and tiny heads!!!

I'll buy X-Men until the cows come home, but if Liefeld ever comes anywhere
near them, I'm putting my money away. I refuse to give them a reason to hire
him.
And as for a new X-Force series... well if it is ongoing (unlike the limited
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Hazardcore <rogue_sugah @ (deleteme) yahoo dot com> wrote in message
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 >
   > > >>>>> So what is Rogue's current power status?
   > > >>>>
   > > >>>> Rogue's power's (Ms. Marvel's and her uncontrollable absorption
   > > >>>> power) are or will return before her own ongoing series, which
starts
   > > >>>> in July.
   > > >>>
   > > >>> Can we get rid of her "elaborate tattoo" on her arm too? It must be
a
   > > >>> nightmare for artists and editors to try and to keep consistent or
   > > >>> draw around.
   > > >>
   > > >> Agreed. I don't really mind her getting a tatt, but they made it too
   > > >> complex. --
   > > >
   > > >
   > > > I've never liked the tattoo. Hopefully they'll write it out,
considering
   > > > that it's only supposed to be a temp tat anyway I don't see why or how
   > > > she could keep it.
  > >
  > > It was put on there by another mutant, IIRC in the X-Treme X-Men X-Pose
  > > series, who could then take it off without leaving any sign it was ever
  > > there.
  > >
  > > Alex
 >
 > I know. As I remember, (it's been awhile) her tattoo's are temporary and
 > fade away after a time (the one she put on that journalist only lasted the
 > night IIRC), so how could she keep it without getting it touched up by
Paint
 > every once in a while?
 > More reason to lose it than keep it... besides the fact that almost
everyone
 > I've talk to seems to think it looks ugly.
 >

I like it. But in real life it would look really ugly. And it must be an
absolute bastard to draw.

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Dan McEwen <dannyboymcny.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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 > "Hazardcore" <rogue_sugah @ (deleteme) yahoo dot com> wrote in
 > news:40b581bc_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com:
 >
  > >
   > >> (but the term "bad girl" gives me about as many horible 90s
   > >> flashbacks as variant covers and foil trading card inserts)
  > >
  > > Ewww, now why did you have to bring that up!!! I was doing just fine
  > > ignoring the variant revival we're going through, and there ya are
  > > dragging it in here...
 >
 > Well, with X-Force coming out with what seems to be an ongoing title,
 > all those memories are bound to come flooding back! On the bright side,
 > Liefeld seems to have improved. If you compare the cover of the
 > original X-Force #1 to the new one, the difference is tremendous. His
 > biggest problem still seems to be women's breasts, particularly
 > Domino's.

I have to wonder how much of that seeming improvement, and I noticed it as
well, could come down to more modern colouring styles.

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"Nathan P. Mahney" <nmahney.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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  > >
  > > Well, with X-Force coming out with what seems to be an ongoing title,
  > > all those memories are bound to come flooding back! On the bright side,
  > > Liefeld seems to have improved. If you compare the cover of the
  > > original X-Force #1 to the new one, the difference is tremendous. His
  > > biggest problem still seems to be women's breasts, particularly
  > > Domino's.
 >
 > I have to wonder how much of that seeming improvement, and I noticed it as
 > well, could come down to more modern colouring styles.
 >
Nah, things like the hair are obviously more natural and they don't seem quite
as freakishly over-muscled (though they remain somewhat freakishly
over-muscled).

They're shown side by side on the Newsarama thread -
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=2da0e7c51cf1c51d5a49b463b8cf30b1&threadid=13498&perpage=35&pagenumber=3." target="_blank">http://newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=2da0e7c51cf1c51d5a49b463b...30b1&th</a>

His art still sucks, but not half as much as it used to.

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"Hazardcore" <not DeleteThis @reallymy.email> wrote in
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 > I always found that Liefeld's biggest problem was that companies still
 > keep giving him work...

Well, yeah, but I happen to love X-Force enough that I can convince
myself that Liefeld won't last and the book will continue on. It
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"Hazardcore" <not.RemoveThis@reallymy.email> wrote in
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   >> > I always found that Liefeld's biggest problem was that companies
   >> > still
 > keep
   >> > giving him work...
  >>
  >> The root of the problem is that people keep buying his books...

 > Don't look at me! Istopped buying the original New Mutants because of
 > him.

Wait, you read through the entire crappy Asgard story - that went on for
something like 8 issues - and then dropped NM after it was finally over?
Sorry, can't see the logic. Though I've managed to see that Simonson's
NM wasn't quite as bad as I always thought, Liefeld still made it
better.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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"Nathan P. Mahney" <nmahney.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in
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 >
 > Dan McEwen <dannyboymcny.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
 > news:2hnhf3Ff04jcU1@uni-berlin.de...
  >> "Hazardcore" <rogue_sugah @ (deleteme) yahoo dot com> wrote in
  >> news:40b581bc_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com:
  >>
   >> >
   >> >> (but the term "bad girl" gives me about as many horible 90s
   >> >> flashbacks as variant covers and foil trading card inserts)
   >> >
   >> > Ewww, now why did you have to bring that up!!! I was doing just
   >> > fine ignoring the variant revival we're going through, and there ya
   >> > are dragging it in here...
  >>
  >> Well, with X-Force coming out with what seems to be an ongoing title,
  >> all those memories are bound to come flooding back! On the bright
  >> side, Liefeld seems to have improved. If you compare the cover of
  >> the original X-Force #1 to the new one, the difference is tremendous.
  >> His biggest problem still seems to be women's breasts, particularly
  >> Domino's.
 >
 > I have to wonder how much of that seeming improvement, and I noticed
 > it as well, could come down to more modern colouring styles.

That can't be all there is to it. The heads were more proportional and
the crotches aren't so wide apart. Heck, even the shoulders aren't as
big. It's true that the costumes don't excite me much, but I am very
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Dan McEwen wrote:
   >>>> I always found that Liefeld's biggest problem was that companies
   >>>> still keep giving him work...
   >>>
   >>> The root of the problem is that people keep buying his books...
  >>
  >> Don't look at me! Istopped buying the original New Mutants because of
  >> him.
 >
 > Wait, you read through the entire crappy Asgard story - that went on for
 > something like 8 issues - and then dropped NM after it was finally over?
 > Sorry, can't see the logic. Though I've managed to see that Simonson's
 > NM wasn't quite as bad as I always thought, Liefeld still made it
 > better.

I liked that Asgard story much, much more than the post-Cable issues.
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somewhere there's injustice,
and somewhere else the tea is getting cold!"<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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