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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 5:40 am
Post subject: Sage....so she's off the team?
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circa UXM #454-455.
That's unfortunate. I really like her. Tends to be a plot device sort of
character, but she has a lot of promise and is one of the more interesting
X-Men to be introduced in.... a very long time. The only ones in the last
15 years that seemed like she was actually a member (after the introductions
of Gambit and the on-again-off-again Bishop), as opposed to string of
5-minute members who've come and gone over the years (Marrow, Maggott,
Stacey X, Lifeguard, Slipstream, Thunderbird, Cable, Cecilia Reyes, Chamber,
etc.) Even Jubilee never seemed like a "real" X-Man.
I guess Sage becomes visually and thematically a bit redundant with the
return of Psylocke, especially if she's going to get the reset-button
treatment.
But as much as I like having Psylocke back, I would prefer to not give up
Sage for her.
I hope she finishes her work setting up Bobby as the head of the new
Hellfire Club soon and returns to the fold. Miss her already. |
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 2:40 pm
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In message <SKkOd.57410$IV5.8765@attbi_s54>, Aaron Forever
<nobody DeleteThis @nowhere.com> writes
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>That's unfortunate. I really like her. Tends to be a plot device sort
>of character, but she has a lot of promise and is one of the more
>interesting X-Men to be introduced in.... a very long time.
She IS a somewhat interesting character, but Claremont's been hammering
her far too much over recent months. Frankly, we could do with a break
from her. I'm sure he'll get back to her story in due course. (Well,
okay, not SURE - it's Claremont, after all - but I'm sure he's planning
to.)
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 2:52 pm
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Aaron Forever wrote:
> circa UXM #454-455.
>
> That's unfortunate. I really like her.
>
> I guess Sage becomes visually and thematically a bit redundant with
the
> return of Psylocke, especially if she's going to get the reset-button
> treatment.
Depends. If she gets old body and cuts back on hand-to-hand combat, and
Sage focuses more on nimbo-ing and backs off the weird sunglasses,
perhaps not. They could even try to blame some of Sage's current
weirdness on the sunglasses. Not saying it's a great idea, but hey...
it's Claremont.... mind control...
Who knows, maybe they'll pull a storyline from the Crossing and say
that the sunglasses were a trick to confuse the X-men, like say in the
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 9:40 pm
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Paul O'Brien <paul.RemoveThis@SPAMBLOCK.esoterica.demon.co.uk> wrote in
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> In message <SKkOd.57410$IV5.8765@attbi_s54>, Aaron Forever
> <nobody.RemoveThis@nowhere.com> writes
>>
>>That's unfortunate. I really like her. Tends to be a plot device
>>sort of character, but she has a lot of promise and is one of the more
>>interesting X-Men to be introduced in.... a very long time.
>
> She IS a somewhat interesting character, but Claremont's been
> hammering her far too much over recent months. Frankly, we could do
> with a break from her. I'm sure he'll get back to her story in due
> course. (Well, okay, not SURE - it's Claremont, after all - but I'm
> sure he's planning to.)
It would be nice of some other x-writer picked up Sage. She could be
nice in the hands of Milligan or Whedon.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 11:26 pm
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"Dan McEwen" <dannyboymcny.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Paul O'Brien <paul.RemoveThis@SPAMBLOCK.esoterica.demon.co.uk> wrote in
> news:Eg0nTWLg5lCCFwRT@esoterica.demon.co.uk:
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>> In message <SKkOd.57410$IV5.8765@attbi_s54>, Aaron Forever
>> <nobody.RemoveThis@nowhere.com> writes
>>>
>>>That's unfortunate. I really like her. Tends to be a plot device
>>>sort of character, but she has a lot of promise and is one of the more
>>>interesting X-Men to be introduced in.... a very long time.
>>
>> She IS a somewhat interesting character, but Claremont's been
>> hammering her far too much over recent months. Frankly, we could do
>> with a break from her. I'm sure he'll get back to her story in due
>> course. (Well, okay, not SURE - it's Claremont, after all - but I'm
>> sure he's planning to.)
>
> It would be nice of some other x-writer picked up Sage. She could be
> nice in the hands of Milligan or Whedon.
Not Whedon. We already have enough tension between Kitty and Emma --
although it would be interesting to see Tessa (her real name, by the way?)
and Emma interact. But ultimately it would be redundant (the interaction
with Emma in lieu of Kitty and having another telepath).
I'd say ship her over to Milligan with the rag-tag team of X-Men. She might
be the much-needed glue for that team. She has the strongest personality,
for sure, at least in the hands of Claremont.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 12:40 am
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"Dan McEwen" <dannyboymcny.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Paul O'Brien <paul.DeleteThis@SPAMBLOCK.esoterica.demon.co.uk> wrote in
> news:Eg0nTWLg5lCCFwRT@esoterica.demon.co.uk:
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>> In message <SKkOd.57410$IV5.8765@attbi_s54>, Aaron Forever
>> <nobody.DeleteThis@nowhere.com> writes
>>>
>>>That's unfortunate. I really like her. Tends to be a plot device
>>>sort of character, but she has a lot of promise and is one of the more
>>>interesting X-Men to be introduced in.... a very long time.
>>
>> She IS a somewhat interesting character, but Claremont's been
>> hammering her far too much over recent months. Frankly, we could do
>> with a break from her. I'm sure he'll get back to her story in due
>> course. (Well, okay, not SURE - it's Claremont, after all - but I'm
>> sure he's planning to.)
>
> It would be nice of some other x-writer picked up Sage. She could be
> nice in the hands of Milligan or Whedon.
>
> --
Wouldn't she be extremely useful down in Genosha, where computers and other
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 1:18 am
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>Paul O'Brien wrote:
> She IS a somewhat interesting character, but Claremont's been
> hammering her far too much over recent months. Frankly, we could do
> with a break from her. I'm sure he'll get back to her story in due
> course. (Well, okay, not SURE - it's Claremont, after all - but I'm
> sure he's planning to.)
We'll find out she's off somewhere looking for Lifeguard, Slipstream and
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 4:40 am
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Brian Doyle wrote:
>>Paul O'Brien wrote:
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>>She IS a somewhat interesting character, but Claremont's been
>>hammering her far too much over recent months. Frankly, we could do
>>with a break from her. I'm sure he'll get back to her story in due
>>course. (Well, okay, not SURE - it's Claremont, after all - but I'm
>>sure he's planning to.)
>
>
> We'll find out she's off somewhere looking for Lifeguard, Slipstream and
> Thunderbird?
>
Couldn't Emma do that with Cerebra ?
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 4:40 am
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"Alex Peckover" <alex.TakeThisOut@SPAMOFF.uklinux.net> wrote in message
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> Brian Doyle wrote:
>>>Paul O'Brien wrote:
>>
>>
>>>She IS a somewhat interesting character, but Claremont's been
>>>hammering her far too much over recent months. Frankly, we could do
>>>with a break from her. I'm sure he'll get back to her story in due
>>>course. (Well, okay, not SURE - it's Claremont, after all - but I'm
>>>sure he's planning to.)
>>
>>
>> We'll find out she's off somewhere looking for Lifeguard, Slipstream and
>> Thunderbird?
>>
>
> Couldn't Emma do that with Cerebra ?
>
> Alex
Of course. But there's no real story in that!
Besides, Emma could have located Golgotha with Cerebra, but just had to fly
down to Antarctica herself.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 10:40 am
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David Henry <telemachus7.TakeThisOut@msn.com> wrote in message
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> "Dan McEwen" <dannyboymcny.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > Paul O'Brien <paul.TakeThisOut@SPAMBLOCK.esoterica.demon.co.uk> wrote in
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> >> In message <SKkOd.57410$IV5.8765@attbi_s54>, Aaron Forever
> >> <nobody.TakeThisOut@nowhere.com> writes
> >>>
> >>>That's unfortunate. I really like her. Tends to be a plot device
> >>>sort of character, but she has a lot of promise and is one of the more
> >>>interesting X-Men to be introduced in.... a very long time.
> >>
> >> She IS a somewhat interesting character, but Claremont's been
> >> hammering her far too much over recent months. Frankly, we could do
> >> with a break from her. I'm sure he'll get back to her story in due
> >> course. (Well, okay, not SURE - it's Claremont, after all - but I'm
> >> sure he's planning to.)
> >
> > It would be nice of some other x-writer picked up Sage. She could be
> > nice in the hands of Milligan or Whedon.
>
> Not Whedon. We already have enough tension between Kitty and Emma --
> although it would be interesting to see Tessa (her real name, by the way?)
She says in UXM #454 that Tessa is the name Sebastian Shaw gave her, so
probably not. Until some writer forgets that and contradicts it, I suppose.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 3:40 pm
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In message <cuf57m$skt$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>, Brian Doyle
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>We'll find out she's off somewhere looking for Lifeguard, Slipstream
>and Thunderbird?
Lifeguard and Thunderbird were in EXCALIBUR a few months back, actually.
They were working for X-Corp in India.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 3:40 pm
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In message <DnBOd.14022$ya6.544@trndny01>, zildjean
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>Wouldn't she be extremely useful down in Genosha, where computers and
>other tech doesn't work?
No, quite the opposite. She relies on technology to get all her
information. With no tech, she has no input, so her processing
abilities are crippled.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 6:40 pm
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On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 20:01:57 +0000, Paul O'Brien
<paul.RemoveThis@SPAMBLOCK.esoterica.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In message <DnBOd.14022$ya6.544@trndny01>, zildjean
><zildjean.RemoveThis@verizon.net> writes
>>Wouldn't she be extremely useful down in Genosha, where computers and
>>other tech doesn't work?
>No, quite the opposite. She relies on technology to get all her
>information. With no tech, she has no input, so her processing
>abilities are crippled.
The technology *amplifies* her, but she hardly relied on technology
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 6:40 pm
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Paul O'Brien wrote:
> In message <DnBOd.14022$ya6.544@trndny01>, zildjean
> <zildjean.RemoveThis@verizon.net> writes
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>> Wouldn't she be extremely useful down in Genosha, where computers and
>> other tech doesn't work?
>
> No, quite the opposite. She relies on technology to get all her
> information. With no tech, she has no input, so her processing
> abilities are crippled.
But she would be able to be an organic data store and processor anyway. Lack
of tech would limit her, but in local terms, in terms of logistics,
quartermastering and co-ordinating efforts she might be invaluable. She can
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 10:40 pm
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"zildjean" <zildjean RemoveThis @verizon.net> wrote in
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> "Dan McEwen" <dannyboymcny RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>> She IS a somewhat interesting character, but Claremont's been
>>> hammering her far too much over recent months. Frankly, we could do
>>> with a break from her. I'm sure he'll get back to her story in due
>>> course. (Well, okay, not SURE - it's Claremont, after all - but I'm
>>> sure he's planning to.)
>>
>> It would be nice of some other x-writer picked up Sage. She could be
>> nice in the hands of Milligan or Whedon.
> Wouldn't she be extremely useful down in Genosha, where computers and
> other tech doesn't work?
No, because that would leave her in the hands of Claremont. I want to
see her under a more capable writer.
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