Salinger, First Edition, what printing?

ben wrote:
> Hello, thanks in advance for any replies!
>
> I have a copy of J.D. Salinger's Franny and Zooey. It's a greyish-blue
> (I'm colorblind, so work with me here) hardcover, with the dust jacket.
> Publisher is Little Brown. Copyright appears to be 1955, then it shows
> the dates 1957 and 1961. It clearly states "First Edition," though
> mentions a simultaneous release in Canada.
>
> TBut this is before the time of the ISBN, and no other publishing info
> is on the page, so how do I know what printing I'm dealing with? I
> apologize for not being more knowledgable about book collecting, it's
> just a book I love and happen to have.
>

Since it states First Edition, it's a first printing; later printings
are so specified, in place of the FE statement.


--Jon Meyers
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"ben" <benjamin_bower.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1139351491.933220.90050@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> Hello, thanks in advance for any replies!
>
> I have a copy of J.D. Salinger's Franny and Zooey. It's a greyish-blue
> (I'm colorblind, so work with me here) hardcover, with the dust jacket.
> Publisher is Little Brown. Copyright appears to be 1955, then it shows
> the dates 1957 and 1961. It clearly states "First Edition," though
> mentions a simultaneous release in Canada.
>
> TBut this is before the time of the ISBN, and no other publishing info
> is on the page, so how do I know what printing I'm dealing with? I
> apologize for not being more knowledgable about book collecting, it's
> just a book I love and happen to have.

http://tinyurl.com/dsgb3
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on Tue, 07 Feb 2006 23:28:45 GMT, shirley temple stated:
>
>
>"ben" <benjamin_bower RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1139351491.933220.90050@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>> Hello, thanks in advance for any replies!
>>
>> I have a copy of J.D. Salinger's Franny and Zooey. It's a greyish-blue
>> (I'm colorblind, so work with me here) hardcover, with the dust jacket.
>> Publisher is Little Brown. Copyright appears to be 1955, then it shows
>> the dates 1957 and 1961. It clearly states "First Edition," though
>> mentions a simultaneous release in Canada.
>>
>> TBut this is before the time of the ISBN, and no other publishing info
>> is on the page, so how do I know what printing I'm dealing with? I
>> apologize for not being more knowledgable about book collecting, it's
>> just a book I love and happen to have.
>
>http://tinyurl.com/dsgb3

Wow. $1.00 to $20,000. Now there's a price range.

-Allison
ok, so they aren't all firsts. but still.
 >> Stay informed about: Salinger, First Edition, what printing? 

Allison Turner- wrote:
> shirley temple stated:
>>"ben" wrote in message...
>>
>>>I have a copy of J.D. Salinger's Franny and Zooey.
>>>
>>
>>http://tinyurl.com/dsgb3
>
>
> Wow. $1.00 to $20,000. Now there's a price range.


The link leads to a straight title search--856 hits, which include
paperbacks, later printings, BCEs, non-US editions, etc.

Tighter parameters gets you down to 71 hits--which still includes many
later printings. The price range for unsigned first printings (59 cc)
is $45-550, with most (34 cc) in the $100-300 bracket. Nearly all the
copies under $100 have at least one serious defect.


--Jon Meyers
 >> Stay informed about: Salinger, First Edition, what printing? 

"ben" <benjamin_bower RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1139351491.933220.90050@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> Hello, thanks in advance for any replies!
>
> I have a copy of J.D. Salinger's Franny and Zooey. It's a greyish-blue
> (I'm colorblind, so work with me here) hardcover, with the dust jacket.
> Publisher is Little Brown. Copyright appears to be 1955, then it shows
> the dates 1957 and 1961. It clearly states "First Edition," though
> mentions a simultaneous release in Canada.
>
> TBut this is before the time of the ISBN, and no other publishing info
> is on the page, so how do I know what printing I'm dealing with? I
> apologize for not being more knowledgable about book collecting, it's
> just a book I love and happen to have.
>

http://www3.isrl.uiuc.edu/~unsworth/courses/bestsellers/search.cgi?tit...Franny+
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"Jon Meyers" <stlouisTAKEbooks RemoveThis @MEcharter.OUTnet> wrote in message
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> ben wrote:
>> Hello, thanks in advance for any replies!
>>
>> I have a copy of J.D. Salinger's Franny and Zooey. It's a greyish-blue
>> (I'm colorblind, so work with me here) hardcover, with the dust jacket.
>> Publisher is Little Brown. Copyright appears to be 1955, then it shows
>> the dates 1957 and 1961. It clearly states "First Edition," though
>> mentions a simultaneous release in Canada.
>>
>> TBut this is before the time of the ISBN, and no other publishing info
>> is on the page, so how do I know what printing I'm dealing with? I
>> apologize for not being more knowledgable about book collecting, it's
>> just a book I love and happen to have.
>>
>
> Since it states First Edition, it's a first printing; later printings are
> so specified, in place of the FE statement.
>
>

For the terminally curious, like me, who might wonder why the book has three
dates, I found this: First edition published 1961 by Little, Brown and
Company of Boston and Toronto. These stories first appeared in the New
Yorker. "Franny" was published in January of 1955 and "Zooey" in May of
1957.

And, in fact, the site goes on to give a complete bibliographic description
with detailed first issue information as to binding, type, etc.:
http://www3.isrl.uiuc.edu/~unsworth/courses/bestsellers/search.cgi?tit...Franny+

This site appears to have been developed as college coursework material over
several years, but even though compiled by students, I think it's really a
treasure of information on modern firsts. Here is the link at a higher
level:
http://www3.isrl.uiuc.edu/~unsworth/courses/bestsellers/


Alice
--
Book collecting terms illustrated. Occasional books for sale.
http://www.mywingsbooks.com/
 >> Stay informed about: Salinger, First Edition, what printing? 

my-wings wrote:
> "Jon Meyers" wrote in message ...
>>ben wrote:
>>
>>>I have a copy of J.D. Salinger's Franny and Zooey. It's a greyish-blue
>>>(I'm colorblind, so work with me here) hardcover, with the dust jacket.
>>>Publisher is Little Brown. Copyright appears to be 1955, then it shows
>>>the dates 1957 and 1961. It clearly states "First Edition," though
>>>mentions a simultaneous release in Canada.
>>>[snip]
>>
>>Since it states First Edition, it's a first printing; later printings are
>>so specified, in place of the FE statement.
>
>
> For the terminally curious, like me, who might wonder why the book has three
> dates, I found this: First edition published 1961 by Little, Brown and
> Company of Boston and Toronto. These stories first appeared in the New
> Yorker. "Franny" was published in January of 1955 and "Zooey" in May of
> 1957.
>
> And, in fact, the site goes on to give a complete bibliographic description
> with detailed first issue information as to binding, type, etc.:
> http://www3.isrl.uiuc.edu/~unsworth/courses/bestsellers/search.cgi?tit...Franny+


From this site: "First edition published in green cloth."

If this is accurate, then it must be an as-yet undocumented variant of
the binding. My copy, like the OP's--and every copy on ABE that
specifies the binding color--is in dark-grey (charcoal? slate?) cloth.

Overall, although there is obviously some useful information in many of
the listings at the UIUC site, I found most of them to be, for a
collector's purposes, incomplete and inadequate. I wouldn't look to
these descriptions for reliable first-printing identification.

I did enjoy, though, seeing the cover of the UP for _To Kill a
Mockingbird_: http://tinyurl.com/c6vwm


--Jon Meyers
 >> Stay informed about: Salinger, First Edition, what printing? 

" From this site: "First edition published in green cloth.""
>
> If this is accurate, then it must be an as-yet undocumented variant of
> the binding. My copy, like the OP's--and every copy on ABE that
> specifies the binding color--is in dark-grey (charcoal? slate?) cloth.

Good catch, Jon. This site was done by students, not collectors. The
listing later says "There have been 10 printings of the first
edition.". The researcher was giving the description from a later
"first edition" printing.

Neal
 >> Stay informed about: Salinger, First Edition, what printing?