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"Tristaan" <tristaanus RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Well...a full year of seminary is done and my GPA for the 3
> trimesters cumulative is 3.90.

Hey! CONGRATULATIONS! {REALLY BIG GRIN, HUMONGOUS GRIN, GREAT BIG LONG
TIGHT HAPPY HUGS, REALLY BIG SQUEEZES, GREAT BIG LONG TIGHT HAPPY SQUEEZES}

> Not sure if I mentioned it before, but my most recent class was
> titled "Theology, Film, and Culture".
>
> Primary course thesis: Christians live their lives as an
> extension of the story presented in the Bible, continuing
> primarily from the New Testament but influenced by the overal
> meta-narrative starting in the Old Testament. US Society and
> Culture, while influenced in part by Christianity, primarily
> lives outside of that main Christian narrative and even defines
> its own story. Since the 1920's and the beginning of the
> American film industry, US Culture has presented its story and
> even has had its story shaped by the films produced by the
> Hollywood filmmaking industry. A study of films with a critical
> eye is a good way of understanding the story in which many
> Americans find their identity as well as understanding the way
> that such films continue to shape the American identity with the
> main goal as being able to understand, relate to, and minister to
> the needs of the society around us.
>
> Final project for the course (each student could declare their
> own final project, subject to approval by the professor): A
> critical analysis of the "Lord of the Rings" film trilogy and its
> faithfulness to the Christian themes which Tolkien interwove
> within his epic narrative, 8-10 pages, minimum 8 sources.
>
> Final grade on the paper: 4.0

Good job. {SMILE} That does sound like an interesting paper. {BIG SMILE}


Anne Elizabeth Baldwin


> So, in honor of this, I've founda new vintage of Tolkien Ale.
> It's the Peter Jackson vintage. Not quite as hearty as the
> original, a subtle difference in the blend of flavours, but a
> decent homage to the original brewmaster.
>
> Tristaan
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Tristaan wrote:
(snippage)
> FYI, if y'all are interested in reading the paper, let me know
> and I'll forward you a copy. My e-mail addy is here but is spam
> trapped...
>
> Tristaan


I tried to reply but I got a mail admin saying tristaan.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com didn't
exist. I know Firesong says your'e just a figment but we figments
should be able to stick together!

Ree.
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Tristaan wrote:
> Well...a full year of seminary is done and my GPA for the 3
> trimesters cumulative is 3.90.
>
> Not sure if I mentioned it before, but my most recent class was
> titled "Theology, Film, and Culture".
<snippage>
>
> Final project for the course (each student could declare their
> own final project, subject to approval by the professor): A
> critical analysis of the "Lord of the Rings" film trilogy and its
> faithfulness to the Christian themes which Tolkien interwove
> within his epic narrative, 8-10 pages, minimum 8 sources.
>
> Final grade on the paper: 4.0
>
> So, in honor of this, I've founda new vintage of Tolkien Ale.
> It's the Peter Jackson vintage. Not quite as hearty as the
> original, a subtle difference in the blend of flavours, but a
> decent homage to the original brewmaster.

Well done indeed! Dancing rodents heading your way. <G>

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"Tristaan" <tristaanus RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Well...a full year of seminary is done and my GPA for the 3
> trimesters cumulative is 3.90.
>
> Not sure if I mentioned it before, but my most recent class was
> titled "Theology, Film, and Culture".
><snip>

Congratulations. Here is some fudge shaped as a bucket and shovel for
virtual beachgoing.

Sasha
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"Ree" <geet.RemoveThis@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:48450827@news.bnb-lp.com...
> Tristaan wrote:
> (snippage)
>> FYI, if y'all are interested in reading the paper, let me know
>> and I'll forward you a copy. My e-mail addy is here but is spam
>> trapped... Tristaan
>
>
> I tried to reply but I got a mail admin saying tristaan.RemoveThis@yahoo.com didn't
> exist. I know Firesong says your'e just a figment but we figments should
> be able to stick together!
>
> Ree.

Try replacing the "us" with "ogre" instead of just taking it out. I think
that's what he says to do in his sig. {SMILE, wink}


Anne Elizabeth Baldwin
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> Final project for the course (each student could declare their
> own final project, subject to approval by the professor): A
> critical analysis of the "Lord of the Rings" film trilogy and its
> faithfulness to the Christian themes which Tolkien interwove
> within his epic narrative, 8-10 pages, minimum 8 sources.

8-10 pages? For grad school? That's it??

> Final grade on the paper: 4.0

Cheer!!

> So, in honor of this, I've founda new vintage of Tolkien Ale.
> It's the Peter Jackson vintage. Not quite as hearty as the
> original, a subtle difference in the blend of flavours, but a
> decent homage to the original brewmaster.
>
> Tristaan

.... and Cheers!!

The Bookwurm (who, of course, wants to see the paper to find out how the
ogre dealt with the important issue of dwarf-tossing)
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On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 20:41:06 -0700, Rhino7 stomped through my
brain with:

>> Final project for the course (each student could declare their
>> own final project, subject to approval by the professor): A
>> critical analysis of the "Lord of the Rings" film trilogy and its
>> faithfulness to the Christian themes which Tolkien interwove
>> within his epic narrative, 8-10 pages, minimum 8 sources.
>
>8-10 pages? For grad school? That's it??

Just for that paper... Each week, though, I had to watch 3
additional films (that is in addition to watching all of the
extended edition of the trilogy over the space of 6 weeks) and,
for each film, offer a 1-2 page film interpretation. In addition
to that, we had a critical analysis paper to do on the book "Life
the Movie" by Neal Gabler so we had the reading to do for that.
In edition to that, the last day of class, we had a course
summary paper (3-4 pages) summarizing our analysis of the
cultural trends as portrayed by the movies we'd viewed from the
various time periods. AND, for one week, we had to prepare a
10-15 minute "tutorial" presentation on a film on the theme of
reality perception (choices were Matrix, Memento, Eternal
Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, Stranger than Fiction, Vanilla
Sky, among others).

So... 8 to 10 pages... Well researched, BTW, with minimum 8
sources... I think, all told I put out 35 pages worth of critical
analysis over those 6 weeks.

>> So, in honor of this, I've founda new vintage of Tolkien Ale.
>> It's the Peter Jackson vintage. Not quite as hearty as the
>> original, a subtle difference in the blend of flavours, but a
>> decent homage to the original brewmaster.
>
>... and Cheers!!
>
>The Bookwurm (who, of course, wants to see the paper to find out how the
>ogre dealt with the important issue of dwarf-tossing)

Sure thing! Paper on the way! Hope you enjoy...

Tristaan
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"So good-bye for now and I'll see you again
Some way, some how
When it's my time to go to the other side
I'll hold you again and melt at your smile
Now I have all the ones that I am with
You taught me not to take for granted
The time that we have to show that we care
Speak into their lives and their hearts while they're here
And say I LOVE YOU!!"

~Disciple "Things Left Unsaid"

Theologian in training http://ballymennoniteblogger.blogspot.com/
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On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 20:41:06 -0700, Rhino7 stomped through my
brain with:

>The Bookwurm (who, of course, wants to see the paper to find out how the
>ogre dealt with the important issue of dwarf-tossing)

One thing I'll note from my analysis while doing this paper, the
books elicit a sense of pity and regret that Gollum did not
convert to good (check out the scene from the book "The Two
Towers" where we see almost a physical transformation of
Gollum/Smeagol when he encounters Sam and Frodo asleep on the
stairs).

For the movies, that sense of pity and regret is there mixed with
a sense of anger as we see Smeagol being mistreated by Faramir
and his men. In the books, Gollum's sense of betrayal was
understood... and given time, you almost think that Frodo and Sam
could have over come it. Faramir's men, with their beating and
kicking of Gollum in the movie, pretty much slammed the door at
any continuing possibility of redemption for Gollum. Not only
was Gollum betrayed, but he was betrayed into the hands of men
who, for the most part, didn't treat him a whole lot better than
the tormentors in Barad-dur.

Tristaan

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*******************************************************
Ogre-Monk, AIM TristaanOgre
"So good-bye for now and I'll see you again
Some way, some how
When it's my time to go to the other side
I'll hold you again and melt at your smile
Now I have all the ones that I am with
You taught me not to take for granted
The time that we have to show that we care
Speak into their lives and their hearts while they're here
And say I LOVE YOU!!"

~Disciple "Things Left Unsaid"

Theologian in training http://ballymennoniteblogger.blogspot.com/
*******************************************************
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Anne Elizabeth Baldwin wrote:
> "Ree" <geet.DeleteThis@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:48450827@news.bnb-lp.com...
>> Tristaan wrote:
>> (snippage)
>>> FYI, if y'all are interested in reading the paper, let me know
>>> and I'll forward you a copy. My e-mail addy is here but is spam
>>> trapped... Tristaan
>>
>> I tried to reply but I got a mail admin saying tristaan.DeleteThis@yahoo.com didn't
>> exist. I know Firesong says your'e just a figment but we figments should
>> be able to stick together!
>>
>> Ree.
>
> Try replacing the "us" with "ogre" instead of just taking it out. I think
> that's what he says to do in his sig. {SMILE, wink}
>
>
> Anne Elizabeth Baldwin
>
>

Yeah he corrected me on that. Thanks anyway though.

Ree
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Tristaan wrote:
> Well...a full year of seminary is done and my GPA for the 3
> trimesters cumulative is 3.90.
>
> Not sure if I mentioned it before, but my most recent class was
> titled "Theology, Film, and Culture".
>
> Primary course thesis: Christians live their lives as an
> extension of the story presented in the Bible, continuing
> primarily from the New Testament but influenced by the overal
> meta-narrative starting in the Old Testament. US Society and
> Culture, while influenced in part by Christianity, primarily
> lives outside of that main Christian narrative and even defines
> its own story. Since the 1920's and the beginning of the
> American film industry, US Culture has presented its story and
> even has had its story shaped by the films produced by the
> Hollywood filmmaking industry. A study of films with a critical
> eye is a good way of understanding the story in which many
> Americans find their identity as well as understanding the way
> that such films continue to shape the American identity with the
> main goal as being able to understand, relate to, and minister to
> the needs of the society around us.
>
> Final project for the course (each student could declare their
> own final project, subject to approval by the professor): A
> critical analysis of the "Lord of the Rings" film trilogy and its
> faithfulness to the Christian themes which Tolkien interwove
> within his epic narrative, 8-10 pages, minimum 8 sources.
>
> Final grade on the paper: 4.0
>
> So, in honor of this, I've founda new vintage of Tolkien Ale.
> It's the Peter Jackson vintage. Not quite as hearty as the
> original, a subtle difference in the blend of flavours, but a
> decent homage to the original brewmaster.

When I was in the navy I met a man who refused to see any movie that did
not directly promote Christian values; I sometimes wonder what he would
think of the LOT trilogy, or the Narnia series. I know he would not go
to Star Wars movies, that was one of the then current movie we invited
him to see, but would not.

I assume that for your class they provided the movies to watch, but did
they provide the popcorn???

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That's what everybody calls me.

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On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 08:10:10 GMT, Aaron stomped through my brain
with:
>When I was in the navy I met a man who refused to see any movie that did
>not directly promote Christian values; I sometimes wonder what he would
>think of the LOT trilogy, or the Narnia series. I know he would not go
>to Star Wars movies, that was one of the then current movie we invited
>him to see, but would not.

I would think that, considering the original authors, your friend
would not go see LotR but would see Narnia. LotR, as per
Tolkien's own explanation in the foreword to "Fellowship of the
Ring" is NOT allegory and should not be read as such. Tolkien
DOES say that his own life experiences and such DO play a part in
the underlying themes and such in his work, but he did not set
out to write anything that would be seen as allegorical. His
essay "On Fairy-Stories" explains that the Christian themes that
are present in his "sub-creation" or because it IS a
sub-creation... a creation within the Primary creation. And, if
the sub-creator is true to his responsibility of creating within
the primary, truths from the primary will be present in the
secondary. So, there won't be DIRECT promotion of Christian
values in the movies based upon Tolkien's work while there are
still the INDIRECT presence of those same ideals due to Tolkien's
secondary creation.

Meanwhile, C.S. Lewis DID deliberately write allegory and so
there are direct references to Christian themes and ideas. So,
while the secular film industry may not have deliberately been
trying to bring those themes out, the film-makers, being
sub-creators in their own right, could not help but bring those
same themes over into their secondary creation.

>I assume that for your class they provided the movies to watch, but did
>they provide the popcorn???

Actually... we were only provided with 1 actual film by the
class (a film called "Sullivan's Travels"). The rest we had to
obtain copies of our own for viewing during the trimester. We
had lists to work off of for movies from particular eras and
themes. So, I opened up a NetFlix account and got my money's
worth... 3 movies a week for 6 weeks at $17.00 a month... I made
out like a bandit.

Final film for the class? Field trip to a local theatre to see
Harrison Ford crack his whip again as Indiana Jones..

Tristaan


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*******************************************************
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"So good-bye for now and I'll see you again
Some way, some how
When it's my time to go to the other side
I'll hold you again and melt at your smile
Now I have all the ones that I am with
You taught me not to take for granted
The time that we have to show that we care
Speak into their lives and their hearts while they're here
And say I LOVE YOU!!"

~Disciple "Things Left Unsaid"

Theologian in training http://ballymennoniteblogger.blogspot.com/
*******************************************************
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"Ree" <geet.RemoveThis@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> Anne Elizabeth Baldwin wrote:
>> "Ree" <geet.RemoveThis@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:48450827@news.bnb-lp.com...
>>> Tristaan wrote:
>>> (snippage)
>>>> FYI, if y'all are interested in reading the paper, let me know
>>>> and I'll forward you a copy. My e-mail addy is here but is spam
>>>> trapped... Tristaan
>>>
>>> I tried to reply but I got a mail admin saying tristaan.RemoveThis@yahoo.com didn't
>>> exist. I know Firesong says your'e just a figment but we figments
>>> should
>>> be able to stick together!
>>>
>>> Ree.
>>
>> Try replacing the "us" with "ogre" instead of just taking it out. I
>> think that's what he says to do in his sig. {SMILE, wink}
>>
>>
>> Anne Elizabeth Baldwin
>>
>>
>
> Yeah he corrected me on that. Thanks anyway though.
>
> Ree

I should have known he'd explain things. {rueful Smile}


Anne Elizabeth Baldwin
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"Tristaan" <tristaanus.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 20:41:06 -0700, Rhino7 stomped through my
> brain with:
>
>>> Final project for the course (each student could declare their
>>> own final project, subject to approval by the professor): A
>>> critical analysis of the "Lord of the Rings" film trilogy and its
>>> faithfulness to the Christian themes which Tolkien interwove
>>> within his epic narrative, 8-10 pages, minimum 8 sources.
>>
>>8-10 pages? For grad school? That's it??
>
> Just for that paper... Each week, though, I had to watch 3
> additional films (that is in addition to watching all of the
> extended edition of the trilogy over the space of 6 weeks) and,
> for each film, offer a 1-2 page film interpretation. In addition
> to that, we had a critical analysis paper to do on the book "Life
> the Movie" by Neal Gabler so we had the reading to do for that.
> In edition to that, the last day of class, we had a course
> summary paper (3-4 pages) summarizing our analysis of the
> cultural trends as portrayed by the movies we'd viewed from the
> various time periods. AND, for one week, we had to prepare a
> 10-15 minute "tutorial" presentation on a film on the theme of
> reality perception (choices were Matrix, Memento, Eternal
> Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, Stranger than Fiction, Vanilla
> Sky, among others).
>
> So... 8 to 10 pages... Well researched, BTW, with minimum 8
> sources... I think, all told I put out 35 pages worth of critical
> analysis over those 6 weeks.

That sounds very much like a graduate course. All make you work hard,
whether it goes into a lot of little things, or one great big thing. {smile}


Anne Elizabeth Baldwin


>>> So, in honor of this, I've founda new vintage of Tolkien Ale.
>>> It's the Peter Jackson vintage. Not quite as hearty as the
>>> original, a subtle difference in the blend of flavours, but a
>>> decent homage to the original brewmaster.
>>
>>... and Cheers!!
>>
>>The Bookwurm (who, of course, wants to see the paper to find out how the
>>ogre dealt with the important issue of dwarf-tossing)
>
> Sure thing! Paper on the way! Hope you enjoy...
>
> Tristaan
> --
> Beware Spam Trap!: "us" is an "ogre"
> *******************************************************
> Ogre-Monk, AIM TristaanOgre
> "So good-bye for now and I'll see you again
> Some way, some how
> When it's my time to go to the other side
> I'll hold you again and melt at your smile
> Now I have all the ones that I am with
> You taught me not to take for granted
> The time that we have to show that we care
> Speak into their lives and their hearts while they're here
> And say I LOVE YOU!!"
>
> ~Disciple "Things Left Unsaid"
>
> Theologian in training http://ballymennoniteblogger.blogspot.com/
> *******************************************************
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