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Shane Paul wrote:
>>
>> ObNiven : when the Kzin found and woke up a thrint, they had to
>>nuke the base it was on from orbit.
>>
>
>
> In what story did this appear?


I have a dim recollection of this but I too would like some details.

Or is it alluding to 'Aliens'? :])

Quote Mode ON:
Hudson : Let's just bug out and call it even, OK? What are we talking
about this for?
Ripley : I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the
only way to be sure.
Hudson : Fuckin' A...
Burke : Ho-ho-hold on one second. This installation has a substantial
dollar value attached to it.
Ripley : They can *bill* me.

(Too bad they spelled Burke's name wrong. Then again, of all the
characters...)

TBerk
> Apone : All right, sweethearts, what are you waiting for?
> Breakfast in bed?
> Another glorious day in the corps!
> A day in the Marine Corps is like a day on the farm.
> Every meal's a banquet! Every paycheck a fortune!
> Every formation a parade! I LOVE the corps!
>
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In article <robertaw-4C48D3.18071105112004.TakeThisOut@yasure.drizzle.com>, Robert
A. Woodward wrote:
> I have a vague recollection that it was a brief comment in one of
> the Pournelle/Stirling stories that appeared in the _Man-Kzin War_
> series.
>
Correct.

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On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 13:00:18 GMT, Aidan Karley
<aidan.TakeThisOut@mynameplus1.demon.co.uk.invalid> wrote:

>In article <robertaw-4C48D3.18071105112004.TakeThisOut@yasure.drizzle.com>, Robert
>A. Woodward wrote:
>> I have a vague recollection that it was a brief comment in one of
>> the Pournelle/Stirling stories that appeared in the _Man-Kzin War_
>> series.
>>
> Correct.
>



And the name of the story is.........?
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<< From: Aidan Karley aidan.TakeThisOut@mynameplus1.demon.co.uk.invalid >>


<< Interesting, are you proposing WoP as being a suitable Niven story
to be the first Niven brought to screen? >>

That honor would go to "The Soft Weapon/The Slaver Weapon" -- if you mean 'live
action only' then "Inconstant Moon"


<< As opposed to RingWorld? >>

The awful sounding Ringworld mini series is continuing production 'behind
closed doors' at Sci-Fi, probably so they don't have to hear our outrage.
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In article <4dnpo0ljv831pv32m15lcfi6tbjpiea3c6.TakeThisOut@4ax.com>, Shane Paul
wrote:
> > Correct.
> >
>
> And the name of the story is.........?
>
Written in 8mm high lettering in my copy of (whichever) volume
it is, in a box in the garage of my parents house, about 500 miles
away.

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In article <20041106103249.06154.00000126.RemoveThis@mb-m21.aol.com>, ANIM8Rfsk wrote:
 > The awful sounding Ringworld mini series is continuing production 'behind
 > closed doors' at Sci-Fi, probably so they don't have to hear our outrage.
 >
Things have been happening while I've been away.

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OK. Thanks anyway. They'll probably know what it is in r.a.sf.w


On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 19:00:03 GMT, Aidan Karley
<aidan DeleteThis @mynameplus1.demon.co.uk.invalid> wrote:

>In article <4dnpo0ljv831pv32m15lcfi6tbjpiea3c6 DeleteThis @4ax.com>, Shane Paul
>wrote:
>> > Correct.
>> >
>>
>> And the name of the story is.........?
>>
> Written in 8mm high lettering in my copy of (whichever) volume
>it is, in a box in the garage of my parents house, about 500 miles
>away.
>
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<< From: Aidan Karley aidan DeleteThis @mynameplus1.demon.co.uk.invalid >>


<< > The awful sounding Ringworld mini series is continuing production 'behind
 > closed doors' at Sci-Fi, probably so they don't have to hear our outrage.
 >
Things have been happening while I've been away. >>

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"T" <tberk DeleteThis @sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:JXVid.5242

> TBerk
>> Apone : All right, sweethearts, what are you waiting for? Breakfast
>> in bed?
> > Another glorious day in the corps!
> > A day in the Marine Corps is like a day on the farm.
> > Every meal's a banquet! Every paycheck a fortune!
> > Every formation a parade! I LOVE the corps!

Soon after that Hudson complains about the cold floor & Sergeant Apone
says, "What do you want me to do, fetch your slippers for you?"
Hudson replies, "Gee would you sir, I'd like that."

I assumed it was an obscure, and unexplained, insult to call a Sergeant
'sir'.

Karl Johanson
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"ANIM8Rfsk" <anim8rfsk.DeleteThis@aol.comNOSPAM> wrote in message
 >
 > << Interesting, are you proposing WoP as being a suitable Niven
 > story
 > to be the first Niven brought to screen? >>
 >
 > That honor would go to "The Soft Weapon/The Slaver Weapon"

I thought it a interesting choice to cast Spock in the roll origianlly
played by Nessus the Puppeteer. Especially as it was established that
Spock was vegetarian, making him someone the Kzin telepath wouldn't be
able to easily read.

 >-- if you mean 'live
 > action only' then "Inconstant Moon"

Didn't see the video version of that.

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"Karl Johanson" <karljohanson DeleteThis @shaw.ca> wrote in message
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 > "ANIM8Rfsk" <anim8rfsk DeleteThis @aol.comNOSPAM> wrote in message
  >>
  >> << Interesting, are you proposing WoP as being a suitable Niven
  >> story
  >> to be the first Niven brought to screen? >>
  >>
  >> That honor would go to "The Soft Weapon/The Slaver Weapon"
 >
 > I thought it a interesting choice to cast Spock in the roll origianlly
 > played by Nessus the Puppeteer. Especially as it was established that
 > Spock was vegetarian, making him someone the Kzin telepath wouldn't be
 > able to easily read.
 >
  >>-- if you mean 'live
  >> action only' then "Inconstant Moon"
 >
 > Didn't see the video version of that.
 >

Part of the Outer Limits series.

That was a bit of a strange week. Never seen Larry Niven on UK TV before
but he was a 'talking head' on a documentary about future developments if I
remember correctly, then a few days later his story was on the Outer Limits.
Next day discovered his e-mail address and got a reply. Don't know how
often he replies to un-solicited mail, but I hoped that I had put enough
hooks in the e-mail to interest him.

In fact, as I remember it, the first e-mail was to establish I had really
got the real LN, the second e-mail was to thank him for his work and to
discuss his opinions of Terry Pratchett's discworld series. His reply was
that he really enjoyed the series and showed that he really had read them in
detail. I also seem to remember that he was sent a copy direct from Terry
or his publishers either before publication, or certainly very early on.

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"Keith Butcher" <keith.butcher.RemoveThis@removethis.blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in
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  >> Didn't see the video version of that.
 >
 > Part of the Outer Limits series.

Will keep an eye out for it.

 > That was a bit of a strange week. Never seen Larry Niven on UK TV
 > before but he was a 'talking head' on a documentary about future
 > developments if I remember correctly, then a few days later his story
 > was on the Outer Limits. Next day discovered his e-mail address and
 > got a reply. Don't know how often he replies to un-solicited mail,
 > but I hoped that I had put enough hooks in the e-mail to interest him.

You should start the email with. "I'm a typical Nigerian general with 18
megabucks of stolen money I need help laundering..." If that doesn't
work, use the following subject line for the email, "A listing of
technical errors in your stories",; that should get any SF author to
reply.

 > In fact, as I remember it, the first e-mail was to establish I had
 > really got the real LN, the second e-mail was to thank him for his
 > work and to discuss his opinions of Terry Pratchett's discworld
 > series. His reply was that he really enjoyed the series and showed
 > that he really had read them in detail. I also seem to remember that
 > he was sent a copy direct from Terry or his publishers either before
 > publication, or certainly very early on.
 >
 > Wish I'd kept a copy but that was on a computer that died.

Save early, save often.

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(spoiler at bottom.)


Footfall.



It would have to be updated, because it uses 70's or 80's military and
geopolitics.
You could do the original now only as alternate history, like that Turtledove
series
about an alien invasion interuppting WW 2, and try explaining "alternate
history
fiction" to a Hollywood producer. As for those novels which are cheaper to
make
into movies, why bother? You don't gain anything by the genre switch, in fact,

you loose something. Much of the drama in "Inconstant Moon" is going on
inside the narrator/protagonist's head. There is no smooth way to bring that
all
out in dialog. On the outside you have a rather bland night on the town, until
the
Rain starts.
Niven years ago wrote that the problem with making movies out of his
novels
was that most of them have multi billion dollar special effects. What might
have
been multibillion dollar special effects a few years back is now becoming multi

million dollar CGI. That is what movies are good for. Watching (and hearing)
the flight of _Archangel Michael_ would be _better than_ reading it.
The major obstacle would be that politically correct Hollywood would find
in the plot and dialog some negative analogies with current events which
Hollywood has frieghted with partizan politics. No way that " This is the
price
of the foot!" would make it past the censors, much less "Hail Mary, " etc.
Heck, the name of the ship is an apt Biblical reference, in other words, by
Hollywood standards, a hate crime.
By the way, diffident technical nitpick, shouldn't that be "big paraboloid

steel plate", rather than " big hemispherical steel plate"? The shape is a
slice
of the 3 dimensional figure inscribed by rotating a parabola around its axis of

symmetry, like a telescope mirror, only extended farther around the curve.
Ideally, bang takes place at the focus of the paraboloid. Sanity check?
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