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Since: Oct 18, 2005 Posts: 49
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 5:48 pm
Post subject: "Stark focus" Archived from groups: alt>books>david-weber (more info?)
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Hello,
A new question about Weber's "Heirs of Empire".
Colin has to decide whether to have Cohanna's dogs (genetically enhanced
dogs) killed or not. He asks Galahad (one of the animals) what his
definition of evil would be. Galahad's answer produces a strong reaction in
Colin's mind (Baen Books, paperback edition, 1999, page 42, 4th paragraph):
"Colin winced, for Galahad had cut to the heart of his own definition of
evil. And whether he'd meant to or not, he'd thrown Colin's decision about
his own fate into stark focus."
My question: how would you rephrase the second part of the second sentence
("[...] he'd thrown Colin's decision [...] into stark focus")?
"To bring something into focus" usually means "to bring that something to
attention". But here, it doesn't match... In this context, my guess is it
means something more like "to shed new light on the problem of the dogs'
fate". Or else: "to give Colin new elements to make his decision about the
dogs' fate".
What do you think?
Thanks in advance,
Lucas >> Stay informed about: "Stark focus" |
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Since: Aug 04, 2004 Posts: 67
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 5:48 pm
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In article <43d1144d$1_2@news.bluewin.ch>,
Lucas Moreno <lucas.moreno DeleteThis @bluewin.ch> wrote:
>Hello,
>
>A new question about Weber's "Heirs of Empire".
>
>Colin has to decide whether to have Cohanna's dogs (genetically enhanced
>dogs) killed or not. He asks Galahad (one of the animals) what his
>definition of evil would be. Galahad's answer produces a strong reaction in
>Colin's mind (Baen Books, paperback edition, 1999, page 42, 4th paragraph):
>
>"Colin winced, for Galahad had cut to the heart of his own definition of
>evil. And whether he'd meant to or not, he'd thrown Colin's decision about
>his own fate into stark focus."
>
>My question: how would you rephrase the second part of the second sentence
>("[...] he'd thrown Colin's decision [...] into stark focus")?
>
>"To bring something into focus" usually means "to bring that something to
>attention".
That's not really true. To bring something into focus may mean to
bring something to attention, but it can also mean (and usually does)
that it clarifies it: think of looking through a camera lense that is
out-of-focus (back in the pre-digital days), and then bring the lense
into focus. The things go from being blurry to being clear.
>But here, it doesn't match... In this context, my guess is it
>means something more like "to shed new light on the problem of the dogs'
>fate". Or else: "to give Colin new elements to make his decision about the
>dogs' fate".
In this case, not only does it go from being blurry to being clear,
the adjective "stark" is used to say that the issues involved in the
decision have now become extremely clear and well-differentiated: he
can tell exactly where one issue ends and the other one begins. Not
only is it very much in focus, it is a high-contrast kind of focus.
--
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"It's not denial. I'm just very selective about
what I accept as reality."
--- Calvin ("Calvin and Hobbes")
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Arturo Magidin
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Since: Aug 13, 2003 Posts: 1477
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 6:57 pm
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"Lucas Moreno" <lucas.moreno.RemoveThis@bluewin.ch> wrote in message
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> Hello,
>
> A new question about Weber's "Heirs of Empire".
>
> Colin has to decide whether to have Cohanna's dogs (genetically enhanced
> dogs) killed or not. He asks Galahad (one of the animals) what his
> definition of evil would be. Galahad's answer produces a strong reaction
> in Colin's mind (Baen Books, paperback edition, 1999, page 42, 4th
> paragraph):
>
> "Colin winced, for Galahad had cut to the heart of his own definition of
> evil. And whether he'd meant to or not, he'd thrown Colin's decision about
> his own fate into stark focus."
>
> My question: how would you rephrase the second part of the second sentence
> ("[...] he'd thrown Colin's decision [...] into stark focus")?
>
> "To bring something into focus" usually means "to bring that something to
> attention". But here, it doesn't match... In this context, my guess is it
> means something more like "to shed new light on the problem of the dogs'
> fate". Or else: "to give Colin new elements to make his decision about the
> dogs' fate".
>
You walk into a dimly lite room and things seem fine. Somebody throws a
switch and the room is overly bright. Things are suddenly painfully clear.
The question did that for Colin.
> What do you think?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Lucas
> >> Stay informed about: "Stark focus" |
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Since: Aug 30, 2005 Posts: 77
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 11:00 pm
Post subject: Re: "Stark focus" [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:03:21 +0000 (UTC), magidin RemoveThis @math.berkeley.edu
(Arturo Magidin) wrote:
>that it clarifies it: think of looking through a camera lense that is
>out-of-focus (back in the pre-digital days), and then bring the lense
>into focus. The things go from being blurry to being clear.
And you can't have an out-of-focus lens in the digital days?? Just
because most of the digital cameras are point-and-shoot doesn't mean
there aren't ones where you can look through the lens. >> Stay informed about: "Stark focus" |
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Since: Aug 04, 2004 Posts: 67
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 11:04 pm
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In article <lik3t1lsdqlsa8rmvbqdm7kecche4p8bt6 RemoveThis @4ax.com>,
Loren Pechtel <lorenpechtel RemoveThis @remove.hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:03:21 +0000 (UTC), magidin RemoveThis @math.berkeley.edu
>(Arturo Magidin) wrote:
>
>>that it clarifies it: think of looking through a camera lense that is
>>out-of-focus (back in the pre-digital days), and then bring the lense
>>into focus. The things go from being blurry to being clear.
>
>And you can't have an out-of-focus lens in the digital days?? Just
>because most of the digital cameras are point-and-shoot doesn't mean
>there aren't ones where you can look through the lens.
Fair enough. The only camera I had for the last 20 years was a
35mm Minoltas with manual lenses which I was extremely fond of. But
then it died and Minolta said it couldn't fix it anymore; all they
suggested to replace them were digital point-and-shoots. I haven't
bought a new camera and don't really know what's out there, except
that film cameras are becoming extremely rare.
--
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"It's not denial. I'm just very selective about
what I accept as reality."
--- Calvin ("Calvin and Hobbes")
======================================================================
Arturo Magidin
magidin RemoveThis @math.berkeley.edu >> Stay informed about: "Stark focus" |
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Since: Aug 30, 2005 Posts: 77
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 11:04 pm
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On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 23:04:19 +0000 (UTC), magidin DeleteThis @math.berkeley.edu
(Arturo Magidin) wrote:
>In article <lik3t1lsdqlsa8rmvbqdm7kecche4p8bt6 DeleteThis @4ax.com>,
>Loren Pechtel <lorenpechtel DeleteThis @remove.hotmail.com> wrote:
>>On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:03:21 +0000 (UTC), magidin DeleteThis @math.berkeley.edu
>>(Arturo Magidin) wrote:
>>
>>>that it clarifies it: think of looking through a camera lense that is
>>>out-of-focus (back in the pre-digital days), and then bring the lense
>>>into focus. The things go from being blurry to being clear.
>>
>>And you can't have an out-of-focus lens in the digital days?? Just
>>because most of the digital cameras are point-and-shoot doesn't mean
>>there aren't ones where you can look through the lens.
>
>Fair enough. The only camera I had for the last 20 years was a
>35mm Minoltas with manual lenses which I was extremely fond of. But
>then it died and Minolta said it couldn't fix it anymore; all they
>suggested to replace them were digital point-and-shoots. I haven't
>bought a new camera and don't really know what's out there, except
>that film cameras are becoming extremely rare.
My 80's era Minolta 7000i is still working fine (although, admittedly,
it hasn't received all that heavy use over the years), it's only seen
the shop once in it's life.
In digital the threshold between point-and-shoot and SLR is higher,
there's not much in the SLR department below $1000 for the body and if
you want truly film equivalent it's even higher than that. The
cheapest that I'm aware of that basically meets that definition is the
Canon EOS 5D--and it's a bit over $3k for the body. With their lenses
the focusing with it is incredible. Using the most ungainly lens they
had at CES, a 28-300 zoom with image stabilization (and that's a
pro-grade lens, $2k itself), it focused nearly instantly. >> Stay informed about: "Stark focus" |
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Since: Oct 18, 2005 Posts: 49
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 11:36 am
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Thanks to all!
Lucas
"deowll" <deowll.RemoveThis@bellsouth.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
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> "Lucas Moreno" <lucas.moreno.RemoveThis@bluewin.ch> wrote in message
> news:43d1144d$1_2@news.bluewin.ch...
>> Hello,
>>
>> A new question about Weber's "Heirs of Empire".
>>
>> Colin has to decide whether to have Cohanna's dogs (genetically enhanced
>> dogs) killed or not. He asks Galahad (one of the animals) what his
>> definition of evil would be. Galahad's answer produces a strong reaction
>> in Colin's mind (Baen Books, paperback edition, 1999, page 42, 4th
>> paragraph):
>>
>> "Colin winced, for Galahad had cut to the heart of his own definition of
>> evil. And whether he'd meant to or not, he'd thrown Colin's decision
>> about his own fate into stark focus."
>>
>> My question: how would you rephrase the second part of the second
>> sentence ("[...] he'd thrown Colin's decision [...] into stark focus")?
>>
>> "To bring something into focus" usually means "to bring that something to
>> attention". But here, it doesn't match... In this context, my guess is it
>> means something more like "to shed new light on the problem of the dogs'
>> fate". Or else: "to give Colin new elements to make his decision about
>> the dogs' fate".
>>
> You walk into a dimly lite room and things seem fine. Somebody throws a
> switch and the room is overly bright. Things are suddenly painfully clear.
> The question did that for Colin.
>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Lucas
>>
>
> >> Stay informed about: "Stark focus" |
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Since: Aug 13, 2003 Posts: 1477
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 8:24 pm
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"Arturo Magidin" <magidin.TakeThisOut@math.berkeley.edu> wrote in message
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> In article <lik3t1lsdqlsa8rmvbqdm7kecche4p8bt6.TakeThisOut@4ax.com>,
> Loren Pechtel <lorenpechtel.TakeThisOut@remove.hotmail.com> wrote:
>>On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:03:21 +0000 (UTC), magidin.TakeThisOut@math.berkeley.edu
>>(Arturo Magidin) wrote:
>>
>>>that it clarifies it: think of looking through a camera lense that is
>>>out-of-focus (back in the pre-digital days), and then bring the lense
>>>into focus. The things go from being blurry to being clear.
>>
>>And you can't have an out-of-focus lens in the digital days?? Just
>>because most of the digital cameras are point-and-shoot doesn't mean
>>there aren't ones where you can look through the lens.
>
> Fair enough. The only camera I had for the last 20 years was a
> 35mm Minoltas with manual lenses which I was extremely fond of. But
> then it died and Minolta said it couldn't fix it anymore; all they
> suggested to replace them were digital point-and-shoots. I haven't
> bought a new camera and don't really know what's out there, except
> that film cameras are becoming extremely rare.
There is a major problem with auto focus. It often focuses on what I don't
want to shoot. I preferred my slide focus. It was fast, easy and I
controlled what the focus was on.
>
> --
> ======================================================================
> "It's not denial. I'm just very selective about
> what I accept as reality."
> --- Calvin ("Calvin and Hobbes")
> ======================================================================
>
> Arturo Magidin
> magidin.TakeThisOut@math.berkeley.edu
> >> Stay informed about: "Stark focus" |
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