Statistics for rec.arts.books.tolkien

External Since: Oct 23, 2003 Posts: 141

Comrades:

Following is a summary of articles spanning a 31 day period,
beginning at 30 Apr 2004 13:59:02 GMT and ending at
01 Jun 2004 13:16:12 GMT.

Top 10 Threads by Number of Posts
=================================

Posts Subject
----- -------

264 Why so little Silmarillion discussion?
217 Chapter of the Week, Bk 2, Ch 5 - The Bridge of Khazad-Dum
212 A cool feature of LotR...
169 Chapter of the Week LOTR Bk2 Ch6 Lothlorien
132 Saruman's death
131 Are any "evil" characters in Tolkien actually redeemed?
130 Chapter of the Week, BK 2, Ch. 3, The Ring Goes South
126 All-time posters by volume (DRAFT)
118 Who Recommended LotR to You?
109 Chapter of the Week, BK 2, CH 4 - A Journey in the Dark

These threads accounted for 49.4% of all articles.

Top 10 Threads by Volume
========================

(kb) (kb) (kb) (kb)
Volume ( hdr/ body/ orig) Posts Subject
-------------------------- ----- -------

531.4 (259.8/254.8/129. Cool

264 Why so little Silmarillion discussion?
512.8 (224.0/278.1/157.4) 217 Chapter of the Week, Bk 2, Ch 5 - The
Bridge of Khazad-Dum
508.7 (255.4/249.0/113.9) 212 A cool feature of LotR...
443.4 (169.8/255.4/148.4) 169 Chapter of the Week LOTR Bk2 Ch6
Lothlorien
352.0 (156.9/187.1/ 86.1) 131 Are any "evil" characters in Tolkien
actually redeemed?
323.6 (118.0/198.7/ 99.3) 109 Chapter of the Week, BK 2, CH 4 - A
Journey in the Dark
315.6 (127.2/183.1/104.7) 130 Chapter of the Week, BK 2, Ch. 3, The
Ring Goes South
301.0 (141.7/153.5/ 71.0) 132 Saruman's death
228.0 (130.1/ 94.8/ 39.0) 126 All-time posters by volume (DRAFT)
219.3 (103.7/111.3/ 66.3) 118 Who Recommended LotR to You?

These threads accounted for 49.3% of the total volume.

91 threads (45%) had at least five posts.

Top 10 Posters by Number of Posts
=================================

(kb) (kb) (kb) (kb)
Posts Volume ( hdr/ body/ orig) Address
----- -------------------------- -------

400 982.4 (500.4/468.3/274.1) "Christopher Kreuzer"
<spamgard.RemoveThis@blueyonder.co.uk>
253 650.6 (294.5/355.9/141.0) "Chris Wright" <cjwright79.RemoveThis@shaw.ca>
166 360.0 (145.9/141.6/ 90.9) Stan Brown
<the_stan_brown.RemoveThis@fastmail.fm>
120 268.8 ( 95.1/168.7/ 53.0) mightymartianca.RemoveThis@hotmail.com
99 156.3 ( 92.6/ 63.6/ 34.0) the softrat <softrat.RemoveThis@pobox.com>
90 288.5 (101.7/175.2/121.3) Troels Forchhammer
<Troels.RemoveThis@ThisIsFake.invalid>
82 169.3 (117.2/ 52.0/ 26.1) Flame of the West
<jsolinas.RemoveThis@comcast.net>
73 170.2 ( 74.3/ 78.3/ 54. Cool

mhaines.RemoveThis@io.nanc.com
67 228.9 ( 86.4/142.2/106.7) "Troels Forchhammer" <tfo@hogwarts-
library.net>
61 114.2 ( 68.1/ 39.7/ 20.0) "Bill O'Meally"
<omeallymd.RemoveThis@wise.rr.com>

These posters accounted for 43.4% of all articles.

Top 10 Posters by Volume
========================

(kb) (kb) (kb) (kb)
Volume ( hdr/ body/ orig) Posts Address
-------------------------- ----- -------

982.4 (500.4/468.3/274.1) 400 "Christopher Kreuzer"
<spamgard.RemoveThis@blueyonder.co.uk>
650.6 (294.5/355.9/141.0) 253 "Chris Wright" <cjwright79.RemoveThis@shaw.ca>
360.0 (145.9/141.6/ 90.9) 166 Stan Brown
<the_stan_brown.RemoveThis@fastmail.fm>
288.5 (101.7/175.2/121.3) 90 Troels Forchhammer
<Troels.RemoveThis@ThisIsFake.invalid>
268.8 ( 95.1/168.7/ 53.0) 120 mightymartianca.RemoveThis@hotmail.com
228.9 ( 86.4/142.2/106.7) 67 "Troels Forchhammer" <tfo@hogwarts-
library.net>
211.6 ( 55.0/156.6/131. Cool

54 Michael O'Neill <onq.RemoveThis@indigo.ie>
170.2 ( 74.3/ 78.3/ 54. Cool

73 mhaines.RemoveThis@io.nanc.com
169.3 (117.2/ 52.0/ 26.1) 82 Flame of the West
<jsolinas.RemoveThis@comcast.net>
156.3 ( 92.6/ 63.6/ 34.0) 99 the softrat <softrat.RemoveThis@pobox.com>

These posters accounted for 46.0% of the total volume.

Top 10 Posters by Volume of Original Content (min. five posts)
==============================================================

(kb)
Posts orig Address
----- ----- -------

400 274.1 "Christopher Kreuzer" <spamgard.RemoveThis@blueyonder.co.uk>
253 141.0 "Chris Wright" <cjwright79.RemoveThis@shaw.ca>
54 131.8 Michael O'Neill <onq.RemoveThis@indigo.ie>
90 121.3 Troels Forchhammer <Troels.RemoveThis@ThisIsFake.invalid>
67 106.7 "Troels Forchhammer" <tfo.RemoveThis@hogwarts-library.net>
166 90.9 Stan Brown <the_stan_brown.RemoveThis@fastmail.fm>
40 57.6 Belba Grubb from Stock <barbb.RemoveThis@dbtech.net>
73 54.8 mhaines.RemoveThis@io.nanc.com
120 53.0 mightymartianca.RemoveThis@hotmail.com
60 45.1 Dirk Thierbach <dthierbach.RemoveThis@gmx.de>

These posters accounted for 46.1% of the original volume.

Top 10 Posters by OCR (minimum of five posts)
==============================================

(kb) (kb)
OCR orig / body Posts Address
----- -------------- ----- -------

1.000 ( 8.3 / 8.3) 9 RobertCarter01 <robertcarter01.RemoveThis@aol.com>
0.961 ( 10.3 / 10.7) 5 Trishia Rose <adomplayer.RemoveThis@yahoo.com>
0.842 (131.8 /156.6) 54 Michael O'Neill <onq.RemoveThis@indigo.ie>
0.811 ( 5.7 / 7.0) 7 Conrad Dunkerson
<conrad.dunkerson.RemoveThis@worldnet.att.net>
0.801 ( 7.3 / 9.1) 6 "Douglas Eckhart"
<douglas.eckhart.RemoveThis@btinternet.com>
0.755 ( 9.7 / 12. Cool

7 "Trade Surplus" <tradesurplus.RemoveThis@hotmail.com>
0.751 (106.7 /142.2) 67 "Troels Forchhammer" <tfo@hogwarts-
library.net>
0.749 ( 2.3 / 3.0) 6 "latet" <latet.RemoveThis@rr.pl>
0.744 ( 33.1 / 44.5) 27 Steuard Jensen
<sbjensen.RemoveThis@midway.uchicago.edu>
0.725 ( 18.5 / 25.5) 30 TT Arvind <ttarvind.RemoveThis@hotmail.com>

Bottom 10 Posters by OCR (minimum of five posts)
================================================

(kb) (kb)
OCR orig / body Posts Address
----- -------------- ----- -------

0.350 ( 1.0 / 2.9) 6 Celaeno <celaeno.RemoveThis@choklit.nospam.org>
0.347 ( 2.7 / 7. Cool

11 "John Jones" <john.RemoveThis@jones5011.fsnet.co.uk>
0.335 ( 6.4 / 19.1) 15 Kristian Damm Jensen <damm.RemoveThis@ofir.dk>
0.332 ( 3.4 / 10.4) 13 "Jette Goldie" <jet.RemoveThis@blueyonder.com.uk>
0.319 ( 3.2 / 10.1) 13 hayesmstw.RemoveThis@hotmail.com
0.314 ( 53.0 /168.7) 120 mightymartianca.RemoveThis@hotmail.com
0.311 ( 3.7 / 11.9) 8 Vandevere <vonhooligan.RemoveThis@juno.com>
0.272 ( 17.3 / 63.6) 50 Tar-Elenion <tar_elenion.RemoveThis@hotmail.com>
0.220 ( 6.5 / 29.7) 38 Een Wilde Ier <theusual.RemoveThis@hotmail.com>
0.123 ( 0.9 / 7.6) 10 Hope <hopeandfaith2001.RemoveThis@aol.com>

88 posters (32%) had at least five posts.

Totals
======

Posters: 269
Articles: 3252 (1285 with cutlined signatures)
Threads: 198
Volume generated: 7573.8 kb
- headers: 3334.0 kb (56,259 lines)
- bodies: 4061.1 kb (103,557 lines)
- original: 2337.1 kb (64,075 lines)
- signatures: 175.5 kb (5,499 lines)

Original Content Rating: 0.575

Averages
========

Posts per poster: 12.1
median: 2 posts
Posts per thread: 16.4
median: 4.0 posts
Message size: 2384.9 bytes
- header: 1049.8 bytes (17.3 lines)
- body: 1278.8 bytes (31.8 lines)
- original: 735.9 bytes (19.7 lines)
- signature: 55.2 bytes (1.7 lines)

--
In a single day, Samson slew a thousand Philistines with the jawbone of
an ass. Every day, thousands of sales are killed with the same weapon.

External Since: Oct 10, 2003 Posts: 382

in <MPG.1b26ab3e525cc375989bb9.TakeThisOut@news.individual.net>,
TT Arvind <ttarvind.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> enriched us with:
>

<snip>

OK, since I'm calculating/noting these things for myself anyway Wink

> Top 10 Threads by Number of Posts

All ten titles on-topic (including meta-topical), which is of course
fine, though one wonders if all the posts keep to the topic Wink

<snip>

> Top 10 Threads by Volume

These are the same threads, but sorted a little differently.

I've calculated the average values per post - just for fun (in bytes):

Subject Vol. hdr body orig
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Why so little Silm[...]? 2061.2 1007.7 988.3 503.5
CotW, Bk 2, Ch 5 2419.8 1057.0 1312.3 742.8
A cool feature of LotR... 2457.1 1233.6 1202.7 550.2
CotW LOTR Bk2 Ch6 2686.6 1028.8 1547.5 899.2
Are any "evil" chars.[...]? 2751.5 1226.5 1462.5 673.0
CotW, BK 2, CH 4 3040.1 1108.6 1866.7 932.9
CotW, BK 2, Ch. 3 2486.0 1001.9 1442.3 824.7
Saruman's death 2335.0 1099.2 1190.8 550.8
All-time posters by vol[...] 1853.0 1057.3 770.4 317.0
Who Recommended LotR to You? 1903.1 899.9 965.9 575.3

So, in terms of average original and body content per post, CotW II,4 has
the highest value.

> These threads accounted for 49.3% of the total volume.

In about 5% of the threads.
I wonder if we'd find a real Pareto ratio - that 20% of the threads
account for 80% of the volume / posts Wink

> Top 10 Posters by Number of Posts
> 90 288.5 (101.7/175.2/121.3) Troels Forchhammer
[...]
> 67 228.9 ( 86.4/142.2/106.7) "Troels Forchhammer"

Summing the two yields:
157 517.4 (188.1/317.4/228.0)

<snip>

> Top 10 Posters by OCR (minimum of five posts)

Unfortunately my total OCR is then 0.718, which will drop me out of the
list (unless I am /very/ lucky and gets to stay on in the end Wink

<snip>

> Totals
> ======
>
> Posters: 269
> Articles: 3252 (1285 with cutlined signatures)
> Threads: 198
> Volume generated: 7573.8 kb
> - headers: 3334.0 kb (56,259 lines)
> - bodies: 4061.1 kb (103,557 lines)
> - original: 2337.1 kb (64,075 lines)
> - signatures: 175.5 kb (5,499 lines)
>
> Original Content Rating: 0.575

Once more the headers account for significantly more volume than the
original content. The average volume per line is 37.35 bytes, and since
the average volume of header per post is 1049.3 bytes, this means that we
will have to write 28.1 average lines of original content (on the
average) in order to average an original content volue equal to the
headers volue ( ... on average LOL!)

The OCR could be better - AFT did 0.666, and IIRC we've had periods where
the average OCR was above 0.7

> - signature: 55.2 bytes (1.7 lines)

But for the relevant posts the averages are 139.9 bytes (4.3 lines),
which means that the signatures are about 20% of the original content
(though not counted towards that).

--
Troels Forchhammer

"He deserves death."
"Deserves it! I daresay he does. Many that live deserve death. And some
that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager
to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all
ends."
- Tolkien in The Fellowship of the Ring