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RickyBobby

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:17 am
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In the Dark Tower books there were many references to the world moving on.
Because of all of the mutations most readers would assume that the world
moved on because of a great nuclear war.

But now it seems that the world is moving on in real terms, not fiction.

The globe is warming. The ice caps are melting. The big,fuzzy polar bears
are doomed to extinction. Coastlands are just a few years away from
becoming part of the sea.

Sudan is the first occurence of the water wars and has earned its place in
history.

Just as in the Stephen King books, theories abound. Manmade global warming,
natural global warming, no global warming, extreme global warming.

One thing seems almost certain, the oceans will gain a meter. So everything
and every place less than a meter above the sea today will become the sea
tomorrow.

We are witnessing history. For the past 1000 years or so of carefully
recorded history the climate has been the same. Now it is changing.
Drought will no longer be a temporary condition. Floods will no longer be
historic, they will be annual.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:58 pm
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RickyBobby wrote:
> In the Dark Tower books there were many references to the world moving
> on. Because of all of the mutations most readers would assume that the
> world moved on because of a great nuclear war.
>
> But now it seems that the world is moving on in real terms, not fiction.
>
> The globe is warming. The ice caps are melting. The big,fuzzy polar
> bears are doomed to extinction. Coastlands are just a few years away
> from becoming part of the sea.
>
> Sudan is the first occurence of the water wars and has earned its place
> in history.
>
> Just as in the Stephen King books, theories abound. Manmade global
> warming, natural global warming, no global warming, extreme global warming.
>
> One thing seems almost certain, the oceans will gain a meter. So
> everything and every place less than a meter above the sea today will
> become the sea tomorrow.
>
> We are witnessing history. For the past 1000 years or so of carefully
> recorded history the climate has been the same. Now it is changing.
> Drought will no longer be a temporary condition. Floods will no longer
> be historic, they will be annual.

None of this will happen in out life times or probably in our childrens.
I feel confident enough in mordern science to beleive that by then there
will be a solution to the problem. Already have the hybird cars and are
working in the right direction to find economical clean burning
fuels,factories around the country are working(and putting tons of money
into)on changing stuff over to reduce their harmful output yearly.
Enough is going on right now that I really belive withing the next 10 to
20 years things will be a lot different and looking better and better as
far as global warming goes....I hope at least! Razz

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philosopher." - Ambrose Bierce

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:45 am
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Was there ever any doubt about that?

Wink
Murielle
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Tamara CallaLilly

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 11:45 pm
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"Pink Freud" <somewhere DeleteThis @around.com> wrote in message
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> "RickyBobby" <nascar42 DeleteThis @cox.net> wrote in message
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>> In the Dark Tower books there were many references to the world moving
>> on. Because of all of the mutations most readers would assume that the
>> world moved on because of a great nuclear war.
>>
>> But now it seems that the world is moving on in real terms, not fiction.
>>
>> The globe is warming. The ice caps are melting. The big,fuzzy polar
>> bears are doomed to extinction. Coastlands are just a few years away
>> from becoming part of the sea.
>>
>> Sudan is the first occurence of the water wars and has earned its place
>> in history.
>>
>> Just as in the Stephen King books, theories abound. Manmade global
>> warming, natural global warming, no global warming, extreme global
>> warming.
>>
>> One thing seems almost certain, the oceans will gain a meter. So
>> everything and every place less than a meter above the sea today will
>> become the sea tomorrow.
>>
>> We are witnessing history. For the past 1000 years or so of carefully
>> recorded history the climate has been the same. Now it is changing.
>> Drought will no longer be a temporary condition. Floods will no longer
>> be historic, they will be annual.
>
> Yawn.
>
> Either catastrophic global warming will happen, or it won't.
>
> If it's going to, the only long-term solution is for there to be less
> people. Anything else is just rearranging deckchairs on the Titantic.
> Achieving less people means telling people they can't have babies - and
> that has never gone down well. Or it means that global warming will reduce
> the population by itself, and a balance will be found.
>
> Every time I hear an environmentalist say "I owe it to my children not to
> destroy the Earth's environment", I think "Why are you having children,
> then?"
>
> Having kids is the most environmentally unfriendly act you can commit.
> This never gets discussed, unsurprisingly, because most people, whilst
> perfectly happy to lecture others on the environment, are unwilling to
> stop breeding for even a second. Let's face it, it's not like humans are
> an endangered species, is it? We're multiplying like rats.
>
> Interesting that, when seen in this light the Chinese - apparently the bad
> guys of the environmental movement - are actually one of the greenest
> races in the world.

Hell, I'd be happy to stop breeding.

I tell my children not to make me a grandma.

My mum told me that the world would be better off if we didn't have kids.

It's such a pity over here in Australia we have our Prime Minister urging
all married couples of child bearing age to have 3 kids - one for each
parent and the third for the country!!!

Tamara
>
>
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:45 am
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Tamara CallaLilly wrote:
> "Pink Freud" <somewhere RemoveThis @around.com> wrote in message
> news:zIGdnRXgVtdg6ZvanZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bt.com...
>> "RickyBobby" <nascar42 RemoveThis @cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:69QMi.7736$7s6.4456@newsfe16.phx...
>>> In the Dark Tower books there were many references to the world moving
>>> on. Because of all of the mutations most readers would assume that the
>>> world moved on because of a great nuclear war.
>>>
>>> But now it seems that the world is moving on in real terms, not fiction.
>>>
>>> The globe is warming. The ice caps are melting. The big,fuzzy polar
>>> bears are doomed to extinction. Coastlands are just a few years away
>>> from becoming part of the sea.
>>>
>>> Sudan is the first occurence of the water wars and has earned its place
>>> in history.
>>>
>>> Just as in the Stephen King books, theories abound. Manmade global
>>> warming, natural global warming, no global warming, extreme global
>>> warming.
>>>
>>> One thing seems almost certain, the oceans will gain a meter. So
>>> everything and every place less than a meter above the sea today will
>>> become the sea tomorrow.
>>>
>>> We are witnessing history. For the past 1000 years or so of carefully
>>> recorded history the climate has been the same. Now it is changing.
>>> Drought will no longer be a temporary condition. Floods will no longer
>>> be historic, they will be annual.
>> Yawn.
>>
>> Either catastrophic global warming will happen, or it won't.
>>
>> If it's going to, the only long-term solution is for there to be less
>> people. Anything else is just rearranging deckchairs on the Titantic.
>> Achieving less people means telling people they can't have babies - and
>> that has never gone down well. Or it means that global warming will reduce
>> the population by itself, and a balance will be found.
>>
>> Every time I hear an environmentalist say "I owe it to my children not to
>> destroy the Earth's environment", I think "Why are you having children,
>> then?"
>>
>> Having kids is the most environmentally unfriendly act you can commit.
>> This never gets discussed, unsurprisingly, because most people, whilst
>> perfectly happy to lecture others on the environment, are unwilling to
>> stop breeding for even a second. Let's face it, it's not like humans are
>> an endangered species, is it? We're multiplying like rats.
>>
>> Interesting that, when seen in this light the Chinese - apparently the bad
>> guys of the environmental movement - are actually one of the greenest
>> races in the world.
>
> Hell, I'd be happy to stop breeding.
>
> I tell my children not to make me a grandma.
>
> My mum told me that the world would be better off if we didn't have kids.
>
> It's such a pity over here in Australia we have our Prime Minister urging
> all married couples of child bearing age to have 3 kids - one for each
> parent and the third for the country!!!
>
> Tamara
>>
>
>
Especially when the country is experiencing such a terrible drought.
Where does he plan to get the food to feed all these kids? Or the jobs
for them to work? Who understands politicians?

Liz
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Pink Freud

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:45 pm
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"Tamara CallaLilly" <laudenum.DeleteThis@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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> "Pink Freud" <somewhere.DeleteThis@around.com> wrote in message
> news:zIGdnRXgVtdg6ZvanZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bt.com...
>>
>> "RickyBobby" <nascar42.DeleteThis@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:69QMi.7736$7s6.4456@newsfe16.phx...
>>> In the Dark Tower books there were many references to the world moving
>>> on. Because of all of the mutations most readers would assume that the
>>> world moved on because of a great nuclear war.
>>>
>>> But now it seems that the world is moving on in real terms, not fiction.
>>>
>>> The globe is warming. The ice caps are melting. The big,fuzzy polar
>>> bears are doomed to extinction. Coastlands are just a few years away
>>> from becoming part of the sea.
>>>
>>> Sudan is the first occurence of the water wars and has earned its place
>>> in history.
>>>
>>> Just as in the Stephen King books, theories abound. Manmade global
>>> warming, natural global warming, no global warming, extreme global
>>> warming.
>>>
>>> One thing seems almost certain, the oceans will gain a meter. So
>>> everything and every place less than a meter above the sea today will
>>> become the sea tomorrow.
>>>
>>> We are witnessing history. For the past 1000 years or so of carefully
>>> recorded history the climate has been the same. Now it is changing.
>>> Drought will no longer be a temporary condition. Floods will no longer
>>> be historic, they will be annual.
>>
>> Yawn.
>>
>> Either catastrophic global warming will happen, or it won't.
>>
>> If it's going to, the only long-term solution is for there to be less
>> people. Anything else is just rearranging deckchairs on the Titantic.
>> Achieving less people means telling people they can't have babies - and
>> that has never gone down well. Or it means that global warming will
>> reduce the population by itself, and a balance will be found.
>>
>> Every time I hear an environmentalist say "I owe it to my children not to
>> destroy the Earth's environment", I think "Why are you having children,
>> then?"
>>
>> Having kids is the most environmentally unfriendly act you can commit.
>> This never gets discussed, unsurprisingly, because most people, whilst
>> perfectly happy to lecture others on the environment, are unwilling to
>> stop breeding for even a second. Let's face it, it's not like humans are
>> an endangered species, is it? We're multiplying like rats.
>>
>> Interesting that, when seen in this light the Chinese - apparently the
>> bad guys of the environmental movement - are actually one of the greenest
>> races in the world.
>
> Hell, I'd be happy to stop breeding.
>
> I tell my children not to make me a grandma.
>
> My mum told me that the world would be better off if we didn't have kids.
>
> It's such a pity over here in Australia we have our Prime Minister urging
> all married couples of child bearing age to have 3 kids - one for each
> parent and the third for the country!!!
>
> Tamara
>>
>>
>
>

That's interesting... is immigration actively encouraged, too?

Here in the UK it seems mainly the neo-rednecks* are having all the
children - most of the what I would call professional couples** just have
one or at the most two. Of course, they mainly have them "to put 'em to bed"
and hire au pairs to look after them while the parents work.

Pink

*mainly 14-16 yr old single mothers and their extended families who usually
live in council houses or on run-down estates, and who tell their kids not
to respect teacher because, as 14-16yr olds themselves, they have no respect
for teacher either.

** that is: couples who are professionals, not people who make a career of
being couples
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Tamara CallaLilly

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 1:45 am
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"Pink Freud" <somewhere.TakeThisOut@around.com> wrote in message
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> "Tamara CallaLilly" <laudenum.TakeThisOut@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Pink Freud" <somewhere.TakeThisOut@around.com> wrote in message
>> news:zIGdnRXgVtdg6ZvanZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bt.com...
>>>
>>> "RickyBobby" <nascar42.TakeThisOut@cox.net> wrote in message
>>> news:69QMi.7736$7s6.4456@newsfe16.phx...
>>>> In the Dark Tower books there were many references to the world moving
>>>> on. Because of all of the mutations most readers would assume that the
>>>> world moved on because of a great nuclear war.
>>>>
>>>> But now it seems that the world is moving on in real terms, not
>>>> fiction.
>>>>
>>>> The globe is warming. The ice caps are melting. The big,fuzzy polar
>>>> bears are doomed to extinction. Coastlands are just a few years away
>>>> from becoming part of the sea.
>>>>
>>>> Sudan is the first occurence of the water wars and has earned its place
>>>> in history.
>>>>
>>>> Just as in the Stephen King books, theories abound. Manmade global
>>>> warming, natural global warming, no global warming, extreme global
>>>> warming.
>>>>
>>>> One thing seems almost certain, the oceans will gain a meter. So
>>>> everything and every place less than a meter above the sea today will
>>>> become the sea tomorrow.
>>>>
>>>> We are witnessing history. For the past 1000 years or so of carefully
>>>> recorded history the climate has been the same. Now it is changing.
>>>> Drought will no longer be a temporary condition. Floods will no longer
>>>> be historic, they will be annual.
>>>
>>> Yawn.
>>>
>>> Either catastrophic global warming will happen, or it won't.
>>>
>>> If it's going to, the only long-term solution is for there to be less
>>> people. Anything else is just rearranging deckchairs on the Titantic.
>>> Achieving less people means telling people they can't have babies - and
>>> that has never gone down well. Or it means that global warming will
>>> reduce the population by itself, and a balance will be found.
>>>
>>> Every time I hear an environmentalist say "I owe it to my children not
>>> to destroy the Earth's environment", I think "Why are you having
>>> children, then?"
>>>
>>> Having kids is the most environmentally unfriendly act you can commit.
>>> This never gets discussed, unsurprisingly, because most people, whilst
>>> perfectly happy to lecture others on the environment, are unwilling to
>>> stop breeding for even a second. Let's face it, it's not like humans are
>>> an endangered species, is it? We're multiplying like rats.
>>>
>>> Interesting that, when seen in this light the Chinese - apparently the
>>> bad guys of the environmental movement - are actually one of the
>>> greenest races in the world.
>>
>> Hell, I'd be happy to stop breeding.
>>
>> I tell my children not to make me a grandma.
>>
>> My mum told me that the world would be better off if we didn't have kids.
>>
>> It's such a pity over here in Australia we have our Prime Minister urging
>> all married couples of child bearing age to have 3 kids - one for each
>> parent and the third for the country!!!
>>
>> Tamara
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
> That's interesting... is immigration actively encouraged, too?
>
> Here in the UK it seems mainly the neo-rednecks* are having all the
> children - most of the what I would call professional couples** just have
> one or at the most two. Of course, they mainly have them "to put 'em to
> bed" and hire au pairs to look after them while the parents work.
>
> Pink
>
> *mainly 14-16 yr old single mothers and their extended families who
> usually live in council houses or on run-down estates, and who tell their
> kids not to respect teacher because, as 14-16yr olds themselves, they have
> no respect for teacher either.
>
> ** that is: couples who are professionals, not people who make a career of
> being couples

Amongst the British yes, they have recently made an announcment about
Sudanese not being allowed to emmigrate at the moment as they have 'filled
the quota' for this financial year, but the refugees have been throwing
things out of kilter.

Essentially we have not enough people to fill jobs in the future as we are
an aging population.

Tamara
>
>
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"RickyBobby" <nascar42.TakeThisOut@cox.net> wrote in
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> In the Dark Tower books

(snip)

I enjoy reading, so I often check various book NGs, and stumbled onto
this thread. My preferences in books are history, bios and occasionally
an autobio. Occasionally, I'll take in some fiction.

Haven't read much King, therefore cannot comment on his stand regarding
Global Warming. HOWEVER...

Using another fiction writer in counterpoint, namely Michael Crichton.

MC is as about as politically liberal as I can stand.
MC is a close friend to Al Gore.
MC thinks global warming is a global snowjob.
MC writes some marginally good fiction. I don't believe that his stories
have nearly the depth as King's

****BUT****

What I appreciate about MC's fiction is that his stories are always based
upon and supported by ABSOLUTE FACT. Anyone who wants to argue
prehistoric DNA found in amber (Jurassic Park), possible pandemics
brought about by extra-terrestial organisms (Andromeda Strain), or the
contact of homo sapiens with Cro-Magnon and/or Neanderthal (Eaters of the
Dead) can do so in another thread.

My point of course is MC's latest, "State of Fear".

I DARE the "sky is falling" types to read the book, AND read all the
footnotes AND the bibliographies.

I'm also an amateur astronomer. What is going on regarding this planet
is CYCLICAL and NATURAL. Look throughout the solar system - the galaxy -
the UNIVERSE to learn the natural effects of time and energy.

Ebb and Flow are *not* your distant relatives living in Mississippi.

What effects our little species has had on this sphere are miniscule.

Please support your local algore by purchasing your carbon offsets from
the company *he* formed to "issue" them (at a cost of course). Get out
your wallets folks - THE SKY IS FALLING!!!

Tusen takk
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