"jmc" <jamesmartincharlton.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "ROBBIE" <littleboyschutz.TakeThisOut@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
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> >
> >
> > The Carnival of Sodomy. Wow! We're gonna stay up late and provoke boring
> old
> > straights- 'cept no one gives a shit.
>
> But, you see, YOU DO.
Jesus, of all the subjects to see you stoop to the thinnest of playground
debating skills over. Tsk
>
> Must be better things to celebrate
> > than plain old arsefucking ain't there? Very sixth form...
> >
>
> What makes you certain that they do it to "provoke straights"? I thought
> they did it 'cos they enjoyed it! And seeing that in a number of countries
> to this day homosexuality is punishable by death, surely the freedom to
> practise as one's heart and soul desires is to be celebrated. I had
thought
> that you were a great supporter of the West's freedoms and would have
> thought that you would approve of the celebration of them... As to sixth
> form, the thing I remember most about the sixth form at my school was the
> incapability of boys to accept homosexuality - always making a big deal
out
> of it and giggling/ranting when the subject came up.
Yes but Homosexuality is legal here James. Has been for the best part of 40
years. Pride won't change any laws abroad, that's just so the marchers can
feel holy for a bit... You see, you, like Martha, have assumed I've got a
beef against homosexuality because I asked a few pertinent questions about
the pride thing. Fankly you're both acting like some fat boring dyke at the
ICA in 1988, all dungarees and specious bollocks about faggots of the world
unite and all that.
>
> > >
> > > second, why do they bother
> > > > when they make themselves look like such cunts?
> > >
> > > Surely that's what seperates us from the Moslems - that people have
the
> > time
> > > and space to act as cuntish in as many diverse ways as they wish.
> >
> > Yes and cuntish is cuntish is cuntish.
> >
>
> Plenty of things could be described as cuntish - your over-the-top
obsession
Obsession? Obsession? I asked a few questions. My respect for you as a
writer will go up imeasurably when you think about the words you use when
you write.
> with local irritations like Pride for example. Chill out - it's not doing
> you any harm, is it?
I asked a few questions and, rather like when you ask a few questions about
the black community, self righteous reactionary wrath explodes.
>
> > And I
> > > think there is some truth in the adage that both the black and gay
> > > communities have got men, in general, dressing a lot better than they
> did
> > a
> > > few years ago. I'm all for both men and women looking sexy, slim and
> cool.
> >
> > Yes, the use of certain perjoratives would no doubt offend you, but
'fat'
> > wouldn't be one of them. Fat Black Poof would only be offensive to two
> types
> > of people in your book no doubt....LOL deary me... baseball cap has been
> the
> > crowning achievment of the black community- Jimmy Saville and Bob Marley
> > pioneered the sportswear phenomenom. I guess a homosexual designed
Calvin
> > Klein underwear for which I'm thankful though I don't understand why
> sexual
> > orientation has to be brought into cultural matters constantly.
> >
> > >
>
> For fuck's sake, who do you think you are talking to?! When have I ever
> objected to any perjoratives?!!! It's me should be saying deary me - think
> about who you are communicating with and treat each individual as such!
> Instead of as one mass of "political correctness". Otherwise you're
nothing
> more than "angry of Sutton" and extremely sixth form to boot!
How am I angry about it. As I said, the site of it, the mixture of 'aren't
we outrageous and naughty and don't forget we're ever so pious and concerned
about the world gay comunity' is a bloody big yawn. You see, I'm more
surprised to see one black bowler hat in London now that ten pink cowboy
hats. They've got what they wanted, now fucking get on with it.
>
> > > Third, Why can't they just
> > > > get on with it?
> > >
> > > Surely they are doing - that's the point of having a big party -
"we're
> > > here, we're not going away and we're gonna be cornholing and
cocksucking
> > > whether you like it or not!"
> >
> > Well, I think at this remove straight society knows that, don't you, to
a
> > yawn provoking level. the patron saint of Modern England is Graham
Norton
> > you know. The march strikes me, to use one of your favourite
perjoratives,
> > as infantilism or at least teenagerism writ large. Like the blacks and
the
> > Irish, they've pretty much got what they've been moaning for but now the
> > addiction to protesting/exhibitionism can not be shaken off. They should
> get
> > over themselves.
> >
>
> 1. It is only in Urban areas that homosexuality is accepted. 2. There are
> plenty of homosexuals who do not fit the Graham Norton stereotype. 3. As I
> said, yesterday's festival has nothing to do with protesting but
everything
> to do with having a good time. Why would you object to that - a festival
> which is without public subsidy - but not to the Lord Mayor's show or the
> Jubilee celebration? Or a Stones concert, for that matter. It is no
> different. It's merely a matter of taste.
Its a march with a distinct, and well passed its sell by date air of protest
about it. I don't know anybody in a wide circle of friends who has anything
against homosexuals; yeah people will always say 'jeez ain't they bitchy'
but that's part of the package innit? Like blacks being good at running and
dancing. But apart from a lunatic fringe which no march will ever change,
homosexuality is part of society. The arguments over; but like with other
minorities and parts of Belfast, they don't ever want the argument, the
provocation and the posturing to end; possibly because they've got fuck all
but sodomy to define themselves by. Pace 'gay art' 'gay films' etc.
>
> > The thing about Pride or Mardi Gras or whatever
> > > you call it - it is NOT publicly subsidised, people pay to go in and
> > > business sponsors it. Which makes it very different to something like
> > > Respect, which you and I are paying for in our rates.
> > >
> > > >Fourth, is homosexuality still a 'cause' that needs marches?
> > >
> > > I think that the march is more like a new orleans, big entertainment
> thing
> > > than a political statement - or could it be argued that in a world in
> > which
> > > sexual Puritanism still has a place
> >
> > Does it? News to me.
> >
> > , overt statements of "deviant" sexuality
> > > are welcome.
> >
> > What do statements of sexuality achieve? I'm curious to know. The march
is
> a
> > big cruise and indulgence dressed up with some flimsy old protest
bollocks
> > and 'helping 16 year olds'. Pfui!
> >
>
> It seems that you don't know your history. Homosexuality has been accepted
> sometimes but often punishable by extreme measures. Even today, young
people
> are rejected by their families and friends merely for being gay. This, I
> might add, is something that would never happen to a black or Irish
person,
> whose blackness or Irishness is the same as their families. The
> high-profile, media, urban, moneyed side of the gay community is a very
> small part of the whole story. There are people who cannot buy themselves
a
> nice flat in a liberal area and who have to live daily having to hide
their
> relationships. Things have changed for the better however and, as I said,
I
> was not aware that yesterday was a protest but a self-financed party. If
you
> had any imagination at all
wooh
, you would see that a highly visible event like
> yesterday's would be a beacon of light to a lonely child living in an
> emotionally repressed family on a sink estate. It would offer a vision of
a
> life in which his/her inner self might one day be able to be expressed.
> Which I think is wonderful.
>
Thanks Reverend for that utter sanctimonious bollocks. Freedom to be gay is
pushed at teenagers through leaflets and plays and tv and youth advisory
drop centres and all that.C'mon, its 2003 mate.
>
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