Question about Susan

Judge for yourself:

"Has not your majesty two sisters? Where is Queen Susan?"

"My sister Susan," answered Peter shortly and gravely, "is no longer a
friend of Narnia."

"Paul Ciszek" <nospam.RemoveThis@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> I don't own a set of the books, so I was hoping someone who has
> read them recently could answer this: In _The Last Battle_,
> I thought Susan was not in the train crash that killed the
> other Pevinses. I thought that despite the lipstick, nylons,
> etc., the real reason she was not in Aslan's country was that
> she was still alive. Am I remembering wrong?
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On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:41:33 +0000 (UTC), nospam.TakeThisOut@nospam.com (Paul Ciszek)
wrote:

>
>I don't own a set of the books, so I was hoping someone who has
>read them recently could answer this: In _The Last Battle_,
>I thought Susan was not in the train crash that killed the
>other Pevinses. I thought that despite the lipstick, nylons,
>etc., the real reason she was not in Aslan's country was that
>she was still alive. Am I remembering wrong?


Ah, but WHY wasn't she on the train? Weren't the other children on the
train because the Narnians had summoned them, so they were en route to meet
Digory and use his rings, or something? Susan probably stayed home because
she had an invitation somewhere (and had stopped believing Narnia was
real). That could be what they meant by saying she was "no friend of
Narnia" -- that when the Narnains called, she refused to come.


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Bree wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:41:33 +0000 (UTC), nospam DeleteThis @nospam.com (Paul Ciszek)
> wrote:
>
> >
> >I don't own a set of the books, so I was hoping someone who has
> >read them recently could answer this: In _The Last Battle_,
> >I thought Susan was not in the train crash that killed the
> >other Pevinses. I thought that despite the lipstick, nylons,
> >etc., the real reason she was not in Aslan's country was that
> >she was still alive. Am I remembering wrong?
>
>
> Ah, but WHY wasn't she on the train? Weren't the other children on the
> train because the Narnians had summoned them, so they were en route to meet
> Digory and use his rings, or something? Susan probably stayed home because
> she had an invitation somewhere (and had stopped believing Narnia was
> real). That could be what they meant by saying she was "no friend of
> Narnia" -- that when the Narnains called, she refused to come.
>
>
> --
> Bree

Indeed. Philip Pullman is misreading the story in saying that she went
to hell. She just didn't die when the others did.
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vreppert RemoveThis @hotmail.com writes:

> Indeed. Philip Pullman is misreading the story in saying that she went
> to hell. She just didn't die when the others did.

Pullman reads into it the prejudices he has towards
christians. "Christians wants everybody but themselves to go to hell,
thus Lewis, who was a christian, wanted Susan to go to hell."

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"Dan Drake" <dd DeleteThis @dandrake.com> writes:

> > Pullman reads into it the prejudices he has towards
> > christians. "Christians wants everybody but themselves to go to hell,
> > thus Lewis, who was a christian, wanted Susan to go to hell."
>
> Is that a quote, and not just a paraphrase (accurate enough, I'm
> sure)?

Just a paraphrase. And not even Pullman-specific. There's a major
discrepancy between what christians wants and what (militant)
non-christians believe that christians wants.

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In article <1134438323.444278.70440 DeleteThis @g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
<vreppert DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
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>Indeed. Philip Pullman is misreading the story in saying that she went
>to hell. She just didn't die when the others did.

It's not just him. I have heard others, who had not read Pullman,
say that Susan "went to hell because she grew up".

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