Synthetic Bioengineering

I missed the Staff meeting, but the Memos showed that Brian McDonald
<Brian_knowspam.McDonald.RemoveThis@shaw.ca> wrote on Sat, 26 Jan 2008 22:40:29
GMT in alt.books.david-weber :
>On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 20:23:59 -0800 (PST), Ben H
><cataphractlance.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>With the new ability to synthesize DNA, we're approaching the level of
>>technology the founders of Grayson had when they hacked their genetic
>>code, via similar means, i.e. using existing bio-mechanical processes
>>to splice DNA together.
>>That said, are serious questions being raised in regards to ensuring
>>that stuff like what happened to Grayson don't occur, and we
>>inadvertently create a chain of Angus beef cows that all have cystic
>>fibrosis?
>>Any thoughts and feelings on how quickly we've reached the level of
>>technology the founders were able to smuggle into Grayson?
>
>
>whether the cattle have a genetic predisposition toward say hip
>dysplatia (sp?)seems almost irrelevant since very few of the cattle
>would live long enough for that to be a problem.
>
>i'd worry about the consequences of human engineering which is going
>to be breaking out in the not too distant future with god knows what
>in the way of unintended consequences.

Using the Grayson model,the unintended consequences are as likely
to be the result of fumble fingers tinkering as they'll be the "side
effects" of a finessed tinkering. E.g. the genies who can handle high
gravity, but eat a third more than "normals".
Combat soldiers who have quick coagulating blood, which means they
start dying of heart attacks at age 35.
A "syndrome" which restores your physical youth - including your
brain, which wipes out your memories back to your "reset point".
"Methuselahs, who live forever. What sort of culture do you have
when the old folks aren't going to die off anytime soon? What sort
will you have if the technology is expensive? A One Time procedure vs
something done every N Intervals?

Questions I have already - what will be the reaction when we
actually get "proto-cyborgs"; permanent prosthesis which are wired
into the nervous system? A guy with a number of "arms" - one for
social settings, another for work. A technician who can put a
screwdriver or probe in place of the finger ... does he get more or
less pay that the other techs?
When we get around to cloning humans, what will be their status,
ethically, morally, spiritually and legally?
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pyotr filipivich
The two oldest cliches in the book are "The Good Old Days were
better." and "After all, these are Modern TImes."
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On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 18:32:21 -0800, pyotr filipivich
<phamp.DeleteThis@mindspring.com> wrote:


> When we get around to cloning humans, what will be their status,
>ethically, morally, spiritually and legally?

it's looking like we are going to be able to just clone the bits of
humans needed for replacement surgeries. with any luck that will
leave cloning humans as a lab trick rather than a widespread thing.
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In article <e4qnp399moj09njfslptea5ojhh2bo9p75 DeleteThis @4ax.com>,
pyotr filipivich <phamp DeleteThis @mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> Questions I have already - what will be the reaction when we
>actually get "proto-cyborgs"; permanent prosthesis which are wired
>into the nervous system?

Excuse me: those already exist

Signed, cochlear implantee
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I missed the Staff meeting, but the Memos showed that aahz.DeleteThis@pobox.com
(Aahz Maruch) wrote on 27 Jan 2008 20:45:15 -0800 in
alt.books.david-weber :
>In article <e4qnp399moj09njfslptea5ojhh2bo9p75.DeleteThis@4ax.com>,
>pyotr filipivich <phamp.DeleteThis@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>> Questions I have already - what will be the reaction when we
>>actually get "proto-cyborgs"; permanent prosthesis which are wired
>>into the nervous system?
>
>Excuse me: those already exist
>
>Signed, cochlear implantee

Ah, but did you get the cell-phone or bluetooth upgrade? That
could be really "cool" at one level already "wired for sound".
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pyotr filipivich
The two oldest cliches in the book are "The Good Old Days were
better." and "After all, these are Modern TImes."
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On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 04:38:08 -0800, pyotr filipivich
<phamp DeleteThis @mindspring.com> wrote:

>I missed the Staff meeting, but the Memos showed that aahz DeleteThis @pobox.com
>(Aahz Maruch) wrote on 27 Jan 2008 20:45:15 -0800 in
>alt.books.david-weber :
>>In article <e4qnp399moj09njfslptea5ojhh2bo9p75 DeleteThis @4ax.com>,
>>pyotr filipivich <phamp DeleteThis @mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Questions I have already - what will be the reaction when we
>>>actually get "proto-cyborgs"; permanent prosthesis which are wired
>>>into the nervous system?
>>
>>Excuse me: those already exist
>>
>>Signed, cochlear implantee
>
> Ah, but did you get the cell-phone or bluetooth upgrade? That
>could be really "cool" at one level already "wired for sound".


bah i want my smartgun link. i'm sick and tired of having to shoot
people multiple times.
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I missed the Staff meeting, but the Memos showed that Brian McDonald
<Brian_knowspam.McDonald.RemoveThis@shaw.ca> wrote on Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:48:34
GMT in alt.books.david-weber :
>On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 04:38:08 -0800, pyotr filipivich
><phamp.RemoveThis@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>>I missed the Staff meeting, but the Memos showed that aahz.RemoveThis@pobox.com
>>(Aahz Maruch) wrote on 27 Jan 2008 20:45:15 -0800 in
>>alt.books.david-weber :
>>>In article <e4qnp399moj09njfslptea5ojhh2bo9p75.RemoveThis@4ax.com>,
>>>pyotr filipivich <phamp.RemoveThis@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Questions I have already - what will be the reaction when we
>>>>actually get "proto-cyborgs"; permanent prosthesis which are wired
>>>>into the nervous system?
>>>
>>>Excuse me: those already exist
>>>
>>>Signed, cochlear implantee
>>
>> Ah, but did you get the cell-phone or bluetooth upgrade? That
>>could be really "cool" at one level already "wired for sound".
>
>
>bah i want my smartgun link. i'm sick and tired of having to shoot
>people multiple times.

That should be ready in a couple more years.

Of course, like Artificial Intelligence, "Artificial intelligence
is about five years, down the road. Always has been, always will be."
I first heard that in '82. Or 1987 at the latest.

tschus
pyotr

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The two oldest cliches in the book are "The Good Old Days were
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