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miniter

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:27 am
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Recent news stories claim that the production of opium in Afghanistan is being
used to support the Taliban cause. I recall clearly that when in power the
Taliban claimed that opium was a horrendous thing and contrary to the will of
Allah. What gives?


Francis A. Miniter

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 1:26 pm
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"Francis A. Miniter" <miniter DeleteThis @attglobalZZ.net> wrote in message
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> Recent news stories claim that the production of opium in Afghanistan is
> being used to support the Taliban cause. I recall clearly that when in
> power the Taliban claimed that opium was a horrendous thing and contrary
> to the will of Allah. What gives?

Since usually mobile and often on the run, Taliban
"insurgents" need (a) popular support and (b) money
or arms available mainly from regional warlords, whose
best source of cash is opium. For farmers, the opium
crop pays best by several multiples (item a.) So, now
out of power, the Taliban judges opium OK for the time being.

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Clare Quilty

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 2:36 pm
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On Feb 29, 12:26 pm, "Don Phillipson" <ey....RemoveThis@ncfSPAMBLOCK.ca> wrote:
> "Francis A. Miniter" <mini....RemoveThis@attglobalZZ.net> wrote in messagenews:47c83291@kcnews01...
>
> > Recent news stories claim that the production of opium in Afghanistan is
> > being used to support the Taliban cause.  I recall clearly that when in
> > power the Taliban claimed that opium was a horrendous thing and contrary
> > to the will of Allah.  What gives?
>
> Since usually mobile and often on the run, Taliban
> "insurgents" need (a) popular support and (b) money
> or arms available mainly from regional warlords, whose
> best source of cash is opium.  For farmers, the opium
> crop pays best by several multiples (item a.)  So, now
> out of power, the Taliban judges opium OK for the time being.

Dumb schmuck. Stating the obvious is no answer to a question which is
theological and political, pointing to the conclusion that a faith
allowing for a contradictory will of Allah is a faith in expediancy,
of an end justified by any means, and a "god" that looks too much like
Man to be any god at all.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 12:29 am
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On Feb 29, 8:12 pm, Thomas <tho....RemoveThis@inquiries.blogdns.ANTIHORMEL.com>
wrote:
> >>>>> "CQ" == Clare Quilty <mac_the_n....RemoveThis@bigstring.com> writes:

>
> Obviously they think that wartime extremity justifies doing some
> horrendous things. Everybody who isn't a pacifist believes the same
> thing so it's no surprise they come out that way. It might be true
> all the same that what they're doing is forbidden under Islamic
> law. Or maybe not. Is anybody really interested in the question or
> is it just stupidity that's prompted the critical comments?

Dumb Schmuck!

This really should not be so hard to get. The Taliban is not just any
'army' caught in the throes of "wartime extremity." From the day they
blew up the Buddhas of Bamyan, this war they have been waging is an
extremity of their own making.

And whether it is war or heroin profits, or the bodies of faceless and
headless women they are making all over the earth, it is nothing
except Death they have made after a fashion that never needed the
revelation of any prophet or god, to be made.

There have been prophets and priests in this world far more strictly
pious than Mohammed in serving the blood-thirsty pleasure of a war-
mongering god the like of which any damned fool of a whole-body
tattooed savage in his wildest, strictly human dreams can conjure--
why! One need only read the 16th Century account of Friar Diego de
Landa, reporting what he saw and heard at first hand concerning the
religion being practiced among the Maya of Yucatan--you might suppose
some of those daemonic fantasies from the pages of "Silence of the
Lambs" were verging upon the damned near revelatory--but to be dancing
about in a tattooed suit cut and stripped from the disemboweled, heart-
devoured corpse of one's victim/enemy was nothing new for the
worshipful imaginations of Thomas Harris and Monteczuma, let alone
Mohammed, for when it comes to religion like that, as must be very
clear--even a caveman can do it.

But would you think to give mention to what has always been the very
un-human, atypical of man spiritual observance of pacifism? Indeed you
have and that has inspired what is now the most current addition to my
blog where may be found what is really the main part of my reply to
what you say here.

http://whosenose.blogspot.com
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 2:12 am
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>>>>> "CQ" == Clare Quilty <mac_the_nice DeleteThis @bigstring.com> writes:

>> > Recent news stories claim that the production of opium in
>> Afghanistan is > being used to support the Taliban cause.  I
>> recall clearly that when in > power the Taliban claimed that
>> opium was a horrendous thing and contrary > to the will of
>> Allah.  What gives?
>>
>> Since usually mobile and often on the run, Taliban
>> "insurgents" need (a) popular support and (b) money or arms
>> available mainly from regional warlords, whose best source
>> of cash is opium.  For farmers, the opium crop pays best by
>> several multiples (item a.)  So, now out of power, the
>> Taliban judges opium OK for the time being.

CQ> Dumb schmuck. Stating the obvious is no answer to a
CQ> question which is theological and political, pointing to
CQ> the conclusion that a faith allowing for a contradictory
CQ> will of Allah is a faith in expediancy, of an end justified
CQ> by any means, and a "god" that looks too much like Man to
CQ> be any god at all.

Obviously they think that wartime extremity justifies doing some
horrendous things. Everybody who isn't a pacifist believes the same
thing so it's no surprise they come out that way. It might be true
all the same that what they're doing is forbidden under Islamic
law. Or maybe not. Is anybody really interested in the question or
is it just stupidity that's prompted the critical comments?

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