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Zarok

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 1:37 pm
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Roll up, roll up, read all about it!

http://hauntedriver.co.uk/ghost_story_society

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 5:59 pm
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On 26 Jan, 21:37, Zarok <hauntedri... DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> Roll up, roll up, read all about it!
>
> http://hauntedriver.co.uk/ghost_story_society

This is from an email sent by Barbara Roden:

"I wondered how long it would take you; you haven't disappointed. You
clearly have far too much time on your hands; if Christopher and I
have built up a substantial enough body of work for you to feel
compelled to attack, it's in part because we don't waste time on
childish and frankly pathetic vendettas.

Christopher has written to your ISP complaining about the libellous
nature of your comments, and asking that they ensure they are taken
down by Monday 28 January. You can, of course, save yourself
embarrassment by taking the comments down yourself before then.

If the material is not removed by Monday 28 January we will be taking
legal action for libel against both you and your ISP. Bear in mind
that we have cached previous libellous material about us that has
appeared on your website; we have also fully documented your criminal
activities regarding the All Hallows discussion group in November, all
of which material forms a satisfyingly thick file which we are
prepared to forward on to the Norfolk County Constabulary, accompanied
by charges of harassment, cyber-stalking, and identity theft. Please
believe me when I say that we are in deadly earnest.

Barbara Roden"

I too have papers and evidence to call upon: the Rodens' membership of
two malicious Yahoo groups whose sole purpose was to stalk and pester
me; several defamatory comments made by them both in said groups; a
signed statement from a UK solicitor which contradicts a libellous
claim they made about me in usenet along with his legal opinion that
they had libelled me; further evidence / statements that I chose not
to disclose at this stage; proof of their stalking me into other
people's discussion groups; proof of their sympathizing with a man who
stalked me to my home in real life; their close friendships with
people who have used sock puppets to post malcious personal abuse and
who have had ISP accounts for lying and behaving abusively; etc etc. I
can't call it a file as such, but it can all be collated into one.

The bottom line is that the Rodens are bullies who are just
embarrassed at being shown up as devious hypocrites.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 4:23 am
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On 27 Jan, 01:59, Zarok <hauntedri....RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 26 Jan, 21:37, Zarok <hauntedri....RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Roll up, roll up, read all about it!
>
> >http://hauntedriver.co.uk/ghost_story_society
>
> This is from an email sent by Barbara Roden:
>
> "I wondered how long it would take you; you haven't disappointed. You
> clearly have far too much time on your hands; if Christopher and I
> have built up a substantial enough body of work for you to feel
> compelled to attack, it's in part because we don't waste time on
> childish and frankly pathetic vendettas.
>
> Christopher has written to your ISP complaining about the libellous
> nature of your comments, and asking that they ensure they are taken
> down by Monday 28 January. You can, of course, save yourself
> embarrassment by taking the comments down yourself before then.
>
> If the material is not removed by Monday 28 January we will be taking
> legal action for libel against both you and your ISP. Bear in mind
> that we have cached previous libellous material about us that has
> appeared on your website; we have also fully documented your criminal
> activities regarding the All Hallows discussion group in November, all
> of which material forms a satisfyingly thick file which we are
> prepared to forward on to the Norfolk County Constabulary, accompanied
> by charges of harassment, cyber-stalking, and identity theft. Please
> believe me when I say that we are in deadly earnest.
>
> Barbara Roden"
>
> I too have papers and evidence to call upon: the Rodens' membership of
> two malicious Yahoo groups whose sole purpose was to stalk and pester
> me; several defamatory comments made by them both in said groups; a
> signed statement from a UK solicitor which contradicts a libellous
> claim they made about me in usenet along with his legal opinion that
> they had libelled me; further evidence / statements that I chose not
> to disclose at this stage; proof of their stalking me into other
> people's discussion groups; proof of their sympathizing with a man who
> stalked me to my home in real life; their close friendships with
> people who have used sock puppets to post malcious personal abuse and
> who have had ISP accounts for lying and behaving abusively; etc etc. I
> can't call it a file as such, but it can all be collated into one.
>
> The bottom line is that the Rodens are bullies who are just
> embarrassed at being shown up as devious hypocrites.

Another missive from Barbara Roden:

"Please remove the contents of my personal message to you from
alt.books.ghost-fiction immediately. You did not have permission to
disseminate material that remains in my copyright.

BR"

Rather grandly, Mrs Roden believes that her emails are copyrighted
under international law, even though the content is hardly
controversial. Indeed, it is curiously trivial and insignificant. My
understanding is that law varies country to country, and that if one
wishes an email recipient not to forward or copy an email, he or she
should explicitly request that in the sent email. But even then there
are no guarantees that copyright law can or will be upheld. The safest
thing would be not to send the email.

It would be down to an injured party to take out a private action if
they wished to seek resolution. To the best of my knowledge, the only
cases where this has resulted in someone being held to account for
'leaking' unauthorised emails of a sensitive or controversial nature
have been employees by their employers, where they have been found to
have breached a workplace rule.

I wonder how the law stands with regard the making of libellous and
defamatory statements in a discussion group where some 200 people can
read and potentially repeat elsewhere the comments made? Or even the
publication of emails in those groups without the sender's permission?
I rather suspect that this - the former at least - does constitute
unlawful activity (in the civil sense of course; these are not
criminal issues). At the very least it is hypocritical.

I wonder how the Rodens can find the time to stalk me around the
internet into other people's discussion groups and then bombard my web-
host with ridiculous complaints just because I publicise their
unpleasant antics on my website. Don't they have proper work to do?
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:03 pm
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On Jan 30, 12:58�pm, Zarok <hauntedri... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
Campbell's modern day reputation rests largely upon his proud boast to
be the BFS President
> and his not insubstantial BFS awards haul. However, he doesn't like it
> when you ask how large his expenses package is for attending the
> annual Fantasy Convention, because it is a secret...

Well, let it remain secret no longer. I receive no expenses for
attending the convention. I pay a BFS member's membership and the cost
of the hotel room and all other incidentals, banquet included.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:10 pm
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On Jan 30, 10:03 pm, ram....TakeThisOut@ramsey-campbell.com wrote:
> On Jan 30, 12:58�pm, Zarok <hauntedri....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Campbell's modern day reputation rests largely upon his proud boast to
> be the BFS President
>
> > and his not insubstantial BFS awards haul. However, he doesn't like it
> > when you ask how large his expenses package is for attending the
> > annual Fantasy Convention, because it is a secret...
>
> Well, let it remain secret no longer. I receive no expenses for
> attending the convention. I pay a BFS member's membership and the cost
> of the hotel room and all other incidentals, banquet included.

Has that always been the case?

There was a discussion in the BFS forum which raised the issue of your
expense package. One of the BFS officials confirmed that your expenses
were paid. Food, accomodation and drink.

Which is true - her statement then, or yours now?
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 3:25 am
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On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:58:52 -0800 (PST), Zarok wrote:

>
>
>On Jan 26, 9:37 pm, Zarok <hauntedri... DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Roll up, roll up, read all about it!
>>
>> http://hauntedriver.co.uk/ghost_story_society
>
>Scratch that. I have decided to post the piece here rather than have
>it take valuable space elsewhere:

No, you mean that no one read it and now you're getting deperate. Still, no
one going to read it.

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 3:26 am
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On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:10:38 -0800 (PST), redburndominic RemoveThis @googlemail.com
wrote:

>
>
>On Jan 30, 10:03 pm, ram... RemoveThis @ramsey-campbell.com wrote:
>> On Jan 30, 12:58 ¿ pm, Zarok <hauntedri... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Campbell's modern day reputation rests largely upon his proud boast to
>> be the BFS President
>>
>> > and his not insubstantial BFS awards haul. However, he doesn't like it
>> > when you ask how large his expenses package is for attending the
>> > annual Fantasy Convention, because it is a secret...
>>
>> Well, let it remain secret no longer. I receive no expenses for
>> attending the convention. I pay a BFS member's membership and the cost
>> of the hotel room and all other incidentals, banquet included.
>
>Has that always been the case?
>
>There was a discussion in the BFS forum which raised the issue of your
>expense package. One of the BFS officials

Which one?

confirmed that your expenses
>were paid. Food, accomodation and drink.
>
>Which is true - her statement then, or yours now?

Provide a cite.

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