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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:51 am
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In the episode (during Season 1) where the lost Babylon 4 turns up, Sinclair
and Garibaldi encounter an alien on board it who is serving "the One". This
alien, who is called Zathras, speaks in a quite Gollumish way, though
without the hissing and golluming noises. He makes a lot of smacking sounds
instead. Also, he is not evil. Even so, a favourite phrase of his seems to
be "No one listens to poor Zathars", which I do think is reminiscent of
Gollum's manner of speech.
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:45 pm
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Öjevind Lång wrote:
> In the episode (during Season 1) where the lost Babylon 4 turns up,
> Sinclair and Garibaldi encounter an alien on board it who is serving "the
> One". This alien, who is called Zathras, speaks in a quite Gollumish way,
> though without the hissing and golluming noises. He makes a lot of
> smacking sounds instead. Also, he is not evil. Even so, a favourite phrase
> of his seems to be "No one listens to poor Zathars", which I do think is
> reminiscent of Gollum's manner of speech.
>
Just wait until Zathras (note the difference in pronunciation) shows up in
season 4 
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:08 pm
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Öjevind Lång wrote:
> In the episode (during Season 1) where the lost Babylon 4 turns up, Sinclair
> and Garibaldi encounter an alien on board it who is serving "the One". This
> alien, who is called Zathras, speaks in a quite Gollumish way, though
> without the hissing and golluming noises. He makes a lot of smacking sounds
> instead. Also, he is not evil. Even so, a favourite phrase of his seems to
> be "No one listens to poor Zathars", which I do think is reminiscent of
> Gollum's manner of speech.
True, but in this case, JMS says that Zathras' speech patterns are based
on those of his grandmother, an immigrant from Belarus who never learned
English very well.
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John W. Kennedy
"The bright critics assembled in this volume will doubtless show, in
their sophisticated and ingenious new ways, that, just as /Pooh/ is
suffused with humanism, our humanism itself, at this late date, has
become full of /Pooh./"
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 8:30 am
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"Derek Broughton" <news.RemoveThis@pointerstop.ca> skrev i meddelandet
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> Öjevind Lång wrote:
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>> In the episode (during Season 1) where the lost Babylon 4 turns up,
>> Sinclair and Garibaldi encounter an alien on board it who is serving "the
>> One". This alien, who is called Zathras, speaks in a quite Gollumish way,
>> though without the hissing and golluming noises. He makes a lot of
>> smacking sounds instead. Also, he is not evil. Even so, a favourite
>> phrase
>> of his seems to be "No one listens to poor Zathars", which I do think is
>> reminiscent of Gollum's manner of speech.
>>
> Just wait until Zathras (note the difference in pronunciation) shows up in
> season 4
Aahhh! You have to rub it in, don't you? I'm still waiting for the DVDs with
Seasons 3-5.
What do you mean with "difference in pronunciation", by the way? I did
spell the name Zathras right the first time, if that's what you are
referring to.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 8:30 am
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"John W. Kennedy" <jwkenne.DeleteThis@attglobal.net> skrev i meddelandet
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> Öjevind Lång wrote:
>> In the episode (during Season 1) where the lost Babylon 4 turns up,
>> Sinclair and Garibaldi encounter an alien on board it who is serving "the
>> One". This alien, who is called Zathras, speaks in a quite Gollumish way,
>> though without the hissing and golluming noises. He makes a lot of
>> smacking sounds instead. Also, he is not evil. Even so, a favourite
>> phrase of his seems to be "No one listens to poor Zathars", which I do
>> think is reminiscent of Gollum's manner of speech.
>
> True, but in this case, JMS says that Zathras' speech patterns are based
> on those of his grandmother, an immigrant from Belarus who never learned
> English very well.
She used to say: "No one listens to poor Olga"? Oh, dear.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 8:33 am
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"John W. Kennedy" <jwkenne DeleteThis @attglobal.net> skrev i meddelandet
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> "The bright critics assembled in this volume will doubtless show, in their
> sophisticated and ingenious new ways, that, just as /Pooh/ is suffused
> with humanism, our humanism itself, at this late date, has become full of
> /Pooh./"
> -- Frederick Crews. "Postmodern Pooh", Preface
P. S. I just wanted to mention what a fanatstic piece of satire that book
is. What is a bit frightening, though, is that much of it is simply
quotations from various postmodernist writers - stuff that simply can't be
outpoohed.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:02 am
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In article <5v5lgjF1kife7U2.DeleteThis@mid.individual.net>,
"Öjevind Lång" <bredband.net.DeleteThis@ojevind.lang> wrote:
> In the episode (during Season 1) where the lost Babylon 4 turns up, Sinclair
> and Garibaldi encounter an alien on board it who is serving "the One". This
> alien, who is called Zathras, speaks in a quite Gollumish way, though
> without the hissing and golluming noises. He makes a lot of smacking sounds
> instead. Also, he is not evil. Even so, a favourite phrase of his seems to
> be "No one listens to poor Zathars", which I do think is reminiscent of
> Gollum's manner of speech.
He reminded me more of Lloyd Alexander's Gurgi, somehow.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:49 am
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"?jevind L?ng" <bredband.net.DeleteThis@ojevind.lang> wrote:
> "Derek Broughton" <news.DeleteThis@pointerstop.ca> skrev i meddelandet
>> Just wait until Zathras (note the difference in pronunciation) shows up in
>> season 4
> Aahhh! You have to rub it in, don't you? I'm still waiting for the
> DVDs with Seasons 3-5.
> What do you mean with "difference in pronunciation", by the way? I did
> spell the name Zathras right the first time, if that's what you are
> referring to.
Yes, you did spell it correctly. Wait until you've seen the episode, then
you'll understand the joke. Telling you anything else now would spoil the
fun for you
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:15 pm
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Dirk Thierbach wrote:
> "?jevind L?ng" <bredband.net DeleteThis @ojevind.lang> wrote:
>> "Derek Broughton" <news DeleteThis @pointerstop.ca> skrev i meddelandet
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>>> Just wait until Zathras (note the difference in pronunciation) shows up
>>> in season 4
>
>> Aahhh! You have to rub it in, don't you? I'm still waiting for the
>> DVDs with Seasons 3-5.
>
>> What do you mean with "difference in pronunciation", by the way? I did
>> spell the name Zathras right the first time, if that's what you are
>> referring to.
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> Yes, you did spell it correctly. Wait until you've seen the episode, then
> you'll understand the joke. Telling you anything else now would spoil the
> fun for you
Yes. Sorry, Öjevind - it was cruel of me.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:40 am
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"Odysseus" <odysseus1479-at DeleteThis @yahoo-dot.ca> skrev i meddelandet
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> In article <5v5lgjF1kife7U2 DeleteThis @mid.individual.net>,
> "Öjevind Lång" <bredband.net DeleteThis @ojevind.lang> wrote:
>
>> In the episode (during Season 1) where the lost Babylon 4 turns up,
>> Sinclair
>> and Garibaldi encounter an alien on board it who is serving "the One".
>> This
>> alien, who is called Zathras, speaks in a quite Gollumish way, though
>> without the hissing and golluming noises. He makes a lot of smacking
>> sounds
>> instead. Also, he is not evil. Even so, a favourite phrase of his seems
>> to
>> be "No one listens to poor Zathars", which I do think is reminiscent of
>> Gollum's manner of speech.
>
> He reminded me more of Lloyd Alexander's Gurgi, somehow.
Me too. But then, Gurgi reminded me of Gollum at first.
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