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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2003 7:22 am
Post subject: Which is More Likely: Transplants or Regrown Spare Parts?
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Seeing as how things tend to 'improve' over time I got to wondering how
common it might be in the (near?) future that we might see organleggers
or might we jump past it to a time when we can regrow limbs and/or
organs (in a mason jar, on Funk & Wagnel's porch).


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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2003 7:22 am
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T Berk wrote:

 > Seeing as how things tend to 'improve' over time I got to wondering how
 > common it might be in the (near?) future that we might see organleggers
 > or might we jump past it to a time when we can regrow limbs and/or
 > organs (in a mason jar, on Funk & Wagnel's porch).

Organlegging in particular is unlikely. The most
comprehensive studies that I am aware of were
conducted by a number of researchers at Case Western
Reserve University, the University Hospitals of
Cleveland, the University of Pittsburgh, the
Pittsburgh Transplant Foundation,
Presbyterian-University Hospital in Pittsburgh and the
UCLA Medical Center. I seem to remember that the Loma
Linda school of medicine in California was also a
player.

Most of the studies used anencephalic infants as
donors and found it was impossible to match donors
with potential recipients quickly enough. The
programs were abandoned in the late 1980s. Articles
on this can be found in the late 1980s (probably 1987
- 1989; I have reprints from 1989) Journal of the
American Medical Association.

Cloning new viable organs is a different question
entirely. In my opinion, the jury is still out, but
it is years in the future, if ever.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2003 9:18 pm
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In article <9aPcb.925$Hx4.206683488@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>,
T Berk <"TBerk "@ sbcglobal . net> wrote:

 > Seeing as how things tend to 'improve' over time I got to wondering how
 > common it might be in the (near?) future that we might see organleggers
 > or might we jump past it to a time when we can regrow limbs and/or
 > organs (in a mason jar, on Funk & Wagnel's porch).

Growing your own spare parts is definitely the way to go, since it's the
perfect medical solution, and has greater 'market acceptance'. Growing a
new organ could actually be easier than regrowing a limb, since you'd do
it inside your own body, forming a second organ alongside the ailing one.

Studies with mechanical hearts have shown that the best strategy is to
leave the biological heart in place; relieved of the main load, it tends
to recover, and might even result in the mechanical one being removed.

With organs such as the brain/liver/kidneys etc, the process could be
even easier, since they're more amorphous. Just add extra quantities of
healthy material, and let the existing organ 'train' them into shape;
though of course this means doing the procedure sufficiently early.

Fortunately, the most life-threatening conditions are the easiest ones
to treat; while the trickier stuff, such as a new limb, is rarer. Yes,
this is all years in the future, but research would be greatly speeded
up if religious & moralist pressure groups can be sidelined.


Tennant Stuart

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2003 1:56 am
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Tennant Stuart wrote:
 >
 > In article <9aPcb.925$Hx4.206683488@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>,
 > T Berk <"TBerk "@ sbcglobal . net> wrote:
 >
  > > Seeing as how things tend to 'improve' over time I got to wondering how
  > > common it might be in the (near?) future that we might see organleggers
  > > or might we jump past it to a time when we can regrow limbs and/or
  > > organs (in a mason jar, on Funk & Wagnel's porch).
 >
 > Growing your own spare parts is definitely the way to go, since it's the
 > perfect medical solution, and has greater 'market acceptance'. Growing a
 > new organ could actually be easier than regrowing a limb, since you'd do
 > it inside your own body, forming a second organ alongside the ailing one.
 >
<snip>


Hmm,

I was thinking of some sort of external growth, say with a an artificial
placental type arraignment- you know in a jar on a shelf.

How to grow an organ in the body with out the growth 'factor'
influencing the rest of the system seems troublesome.


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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2003 1:56 pm
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"T Berk" <"TBerk "@ sbcglobal . net> wrote in message
news:Ek1gb.13$SO1.1234181@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
 > Tennant Stuart wrote:
  > >
  > > In article <9aPcb.925$Hx4.206683488@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>,
  > > T Berk <"TBerk "@ sbcglobal . net> wrote:
  > >
   > > > Seeing as how things tend to 'improve' over time I got to wondering
how
   > > > common it might be in the (near?) future that we might see
organleggers
   > > > or might we jump past it to a time when we can regrow limbs and/or
   > > > organs (in a mason jar, on Funk & Wagnel's porch).
  > >
  > > Growing your own spare parts is definitely the way to go, since it's the
  > > perfect medical solution, and has greater 'market acceptance'. Growing a
  > > new organ could actually be easier than regrowing a limb, since you'd do
  > > it inside your own body, forming a second organ alongside the ailing
one.
  > >
 > <snip>
 >
 >
 > Hmm,
 >
 > I was thinking of some sort of external growth, say with a an artificial
 > placental type arraignment- you know in a jar on a shelf.
 >
 > How to grow an organ in the body with out the growth 'factor'
 > influencing the rest of the system seems troublesome.
 >
 >
 > TBerk

The Gifts From Earth are starting to look more likely than the organ banks?

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 1:42 am
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In article <Ek1gb.13$SO1.1234181@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>,
T Berk <"TBerk "@ sbcglobal . net> wrote:

 > Tennant Stuart wrote:

  >> In article <9aPcb.925$Hx4.206683488@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>,
  >> T Berk <"TBerk "@ sbcglobal . net> wrote:

   >>> Seeing as how things tend to 'improve' over time I got to wondering
   >>> how common it might be in the (near?) future that we might see
   >>> organleggers or might we jump past it to a time when we can regrow
   >>> limbs and/or organs (in a mason jar, on Funk & Wagnel's porch).

  >> Growing your own spare parts is definitely the way to go, since it's the
  >> perfect medical solution, and has greater 'market acceptance'. Growing a
  >> new organ could actually be easier than regrowing a limb, since you'd do
  >> it inside your own body, forming a second organ alongside the ailing one.

 > I was thinking of some sort of external growth, say with a an artificial
 > placental type arraignment- you know in a jar on a shelf.

Yes, I know - but it's not the way to go. People are already used to
cut skin healing, it feels like a natural process, a part of you.


 > How to grow an organ in the body with out the growth 'factor'
 > influencing the rest of the system seems troublesome.

According to New Scientist magazine, research in stags is most promising,
as their antlers are regrown in situ every year; and it's been discovered
that a breed of laboratory mice can also regenerate certain tissues.



Tennant

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