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m_thomas^num_books_in_LoTR^@earthlink.nospam.net wrote in message news:<bobnjh$2o9e$2@agate.berkeley.edu>...
 > Super Grover scribbled:
  > > I have a game I found called On-Sets. It's a game based on the set theory?
 >
  > > I thought one of you might enjoy it...if you'd like me to send it along....
 >
  > > the reply is actually a real email for me....you can't lie to google. *sigh*
 >
  > > so jet me an email. lol.
 >
 > Is it related to the card game "Set"?
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00000IV34/103-2676210-6794206</font" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00000IV34/103-2676210-6794206</font</a>>
 >
 > Excellent game, Set is...
 >
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On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:46:42 +0000 (UTC),
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  >> so jet me an email. lol.
 >
 >Is it related to the card game "Set"?
 >http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00000IV34/103-2676210-6794206
 >
 >Excellent game, Set is...

Love that game. Although, for me, the easiest ones to find are
either the "everything the same and 1 different" or "everything
different". It's when you get 2 things that are different with
everything else the same that I have trouble spotting them
quickly.

Tristaan (need more practice...)
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On 6 Nov 2003 06:58:36 -0800, Super Grover stomped through my
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  >> Excellent game, Set is...
  >>
  >> Megan (beware spamtrap)
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 >http://americanhistory.si.edu/teachingmath/html/enlarge/2001_7650.htm

Just scanned the web-site and noticed that they describe the
program Derive.

Heheh...

LOVE THAT PROGRAM!!!!

My supervising math prof during my College days was one of the
consultants on the committees for creating that program...

Tristaan

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Super Grover scribbled:
 > m_thomas^num_books_in_LoTR^@earthlink.nospam.net wrote:
  >> Super Grover scribbled:
   >> > I have a game I found called On-Sets. It's a game based on the set theory?
  >>
   >> > I thought one of you might enjoy it...if you'd like me to send it along....
  >>
   >> > the reply is actually a real email for me....you can't lie to google. *sigh*
  >>
   >> > so jet me an email. lol.
  >>
  >> Is it related to the card game "Set"?
<font color=green>  >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00000IV34/103-2676210-6794206</font" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00000IV34/103-2676210-6794206</font</a>>
  >>
  >> Excellent game, Set is...
  >>
  >> Megan (beware spamtrap)

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So. Related, but definitely not the same.

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Tristaan scribbled:
 > On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:46:42 +0000 (UTC),
 > m_thomas^num_books_in_LoTR^@earthlink.nospam.net stomped through
 > my brain with:

   >>> so jet me an email. lol.
  >>
  >>Is it related to the card game "Set"?
  >>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00000IV34/103-2676210-6794206
  >>
  >>Excellent game, Set is...

 > Love that game. Although, for me, the easiest ones to find are
 > either the "everything the same and 1 different" or "everything
 > different". It's when you get 2 things that are different with
 > everything else the same that I have trouble spotting them
 > quickly.

"Everything the same and 1 different"? One card or one
property? Because 1 card different makes an invalid set...

"Everything different" seems to be everyones hardest.
I know people who base their game strategy simply on looking
just for those sets and beating the other players to them.

Playing Set with math PhDs can be frustrating.

I used to take my Set deck to the laundromat with me
and play solitaire-style while supervising the machines.
(Making sure none of my clothing wandered off without me.)

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On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:13:03 +0000 (UTC),
m_thomas^num_books_in_LoTR^@earthlink.nospam.net stomped through
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 >"Everything the same and 1 different"? One card or one
 >property? Because 1 card different makes an invalid set...

Properties. Sorry.

 >"Everything different" seems to be everyones hardest.
 >I know people who base their game strategy simply on looking
 >just for those sets and beating the other players to them.

For me, those are the easiest. It's where there are only 2 of
the properties that are all different where I have troubles.
It's that middle line that I have a hard time seeing sometimes.

 >Playing Set with math PhDs can be frustrating.
 >
 >I used to take my Set deck to the laundromat with me
 >and play solitaire-style while supervising the machines.
 >(Making sure none of my clothing wandered off without me.)

Heheheh...

Tristaan (ever play chess with a 7 year old? and lose?)
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Tristaan scribbled:
 > On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:13:03 +0000 (UTC),
 > m_thomas^num_books_in_LoTR^@earthlink.nospam.net stomped through
 > my brain with:

  >>"Everything the same and 1 different"? One card or one
  >>property? Because 1 card different makes an invalid set...

 > Properties. Sorry.

  >>"Everything different" seems to be everyones hardest.
  >>I know people who base their game strategy simply on looking
  >>just for those sets and beating the other players to them.

 > For me, those are the easiest. It's where there are only 2 of
 > the properties that are all different where I have troubles.
 > It's that middle line that I have a hard time seeing sometimes.

Really? It's the "all same and only one property different"
that are among the easiest sets for me to spot. My difficulty
level shades smoothly upward with the number of properties
that vary in a proposed set. Iiiiiiiinteresting...

  >>I used to take my Set deck to the laundromat with me
  >>and play solitaire-style while supervising the machines.
  >>(Making sure none of my clothing wandered off without me.)

 > Heheheh...

I'm getting the urge to dig that deck out...

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In article <8c9lqv02h0tsjise889vv1lns2pmn9sitp.DeleteThis@4ax.com>,
Tristaan <tristaanus.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:

: Tristaan (ever play chess with a 7 year old? and lose?)

The only reason my six-year old hasn't beaten me at chess is that he
gets bored partway through the game. I guess I'm not much fun to play
with

Edna


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m_thomas^num_books_in_LoTR^@earthlink.nospam.net writes:
>Edna scribbled:
>> Tristaan <tristaanus.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> : Tristaan (ever play chess with a 7 year old? and lose?)

>> The only reason my six-year old hasn't beaten me at chess is that he
>> gets bored partway through the game. I guess I'm not much fun to play
>> with

>I believe I lost the last game of chess I played in the
>minimal number of moves for that to happen. And it
>wasn't on purpose -- I really am that bad.

Fool's mate? Something along the lines of

1. P-e4, P-e5
2. B-c4, B-c5
3. Q-h5, Kt-a6 (black has many opportunities here to spoil the fool's mate)
4. Q-f7 mate

Many, many years ago when I was maybe in my early teens one of my friends
was a (semi?)finalist in the New Orleans junior chess competition. I
played him one day (in my home) and out of curiosity set up a fool's
mate -- and he fell for it. I suspect that he never expected anyone
to try it on a player of his level -- and I never was more than a novice.

Joe Morris
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<m_thomas^num_books_in_LoTR^@earthlink.nospam.net> wrote:

> Joe Morris scribbled:
> > m_thomas^num_books_in_LoTR^@earthlink.nospam.net writes:
>
> >>I believe I lost the last game of chess I played in the
> >>minimal number of moves for that to happen. And it
> >>wasn't on purpose -- I really am that bad.
>
> > Fool's mate? Something along the lines of
>
> > 1. P-e4, P-e5
> > 2. B-c4, B-c5
> > 3. Q-h5, Kt-a6 (black has many opportunities here to spoil the fool's mate)
> > 4. Q-f7 mate
>
> Errrrr. I suppose so? I don't really "read" chess positions.
> Certainly that looks like about the right number of moves.
> The friend who beat me gave whatever gambit he used a name -
> could have been "fool's mate".

This reminds meof something I read recently:

Following the decision by the Episcopal Church USA to ordain a
homosexual Bishop, the Anglican Church in England has passed a request
to the "colonies", requesting that all members of the Episcopal church
refrain from playing chess for the time being. Seems they have a problem
telling the difference between a bishop and a queen. (Hopper)

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In a land and time much like our own, Axel.NoSpam.DeleteThis@gmx.de (Axel
Kielhorn) awoke and said:

><m_thomas^num_books_in_LoTR^@earthlink.nospam.net> wrote:
>
>> Joe Morris scribbled:
>> > m_thomas^num_books_in_LoTR^@earthlink.nospam.net writes:
>>
>> >>I believe I lost the last game of chess I played in the
>> >>minimal number of moves for that to happen. And it
>> >>wasn't on purpose -- I really am that bad.
>>
>> > Fool's mate? Something along the lines of
>>
>> > 1. P-e4, P-e5
>> > 2. B-c4, B-c5
>> > 3. Q-h5, Kt-a6 (black has many opportunities here to spoil the fool's mate)
>> > 4. Q-f7 mate
>>
>> Errrrr. I suppose so? I don't really "read" chess positions.
>> Certainly that looks like about the right number of moves.
>> The friend who beat me gave whatever gambit he used a name -
>> could have been "fool's mate".
>
>This reminds meof something I read recently:
>
>Following the decision by the Episcopal Church USA to ordain a
>homosexual Bishop, the Anglican Church in England has passed a request
>to the "colonies", requesting that all members of the Episcopal church
>refrain from playing chess for the time being. Seems they have a problem
>telling the difference between a bishop and a queen. (Hopper)
>
>Axel


Now now, let the Episcopalian tell the joke.

As told to my dad by their seminarian (he is studying to become a
priest)

Why can't Episcopalians play chess?

Because they don't know the difference between a bishop and a
queen.


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Kat Hein <katenigma00 RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:

> Now now, let the Episcopalian tell the joke.
>
> As told to my dad by their seminarian (he is studying to become a
> priest)
>
> Why can't Episcopalians play chess?
>
> Because they don't know the difference between a bishop and a
> queen.

From a letter to the editor:

"The actions taken by the New Hampshire Episcopalians (INDUCTING A GAY
BISHOP) are an affront to Christians everywhere. I am just thankful
that the church's founder, Henry VIII, and his wife Catherine of Aragon,
and his wife Anne Boleyn, and his wife Jane Seymour, and his wife Anne
of Cleves, and his wife Katherine Howard, and his wife Catherine Parr
are no longer here to suffer through this assault on traditional
Christian marriages."

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In an article on a.b.m-l "Axel Kielhorn" writes:

> Kat Hein wrote:
>
> > Now now, let the Episcopalian tell the joke.
> >
> > As told to my dad by their seminarian (he is studying to become a
> > priest)
> >
> > Why can't Episcopalians play chess?
> >
> > Because they don't know the difference between a bishop and a
> > queen.
>
> From a letter to the editor:
>
> "The actions taken by the New Hampshire Episcopalians (INDUCTING A GAY
> BISHOP) are an affront to Christians everywhere. I am just thankful
> that the church's founder, Henry VIII, and his wife Catherine of Aragon,
> and his wife Anne Boleyn, and his wife Jane Seymour, and his wife Anne
> of Cleves, and his wife Katherine Howard, and his wife Catherine Parr
> are no longer here to suffer through this assault on traditional
> Christian marriages."

POINT!

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