Twenty Questions (Nautilus VII)

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>>> Something abstract.
>>> 1. Mentioned in LotR?
>>> Yes.
>>> 2. Are people involved?
>>> Yes.
>>> 3. An event?
>>> No. It is of course somehow connected with events, but it's not
>>> the event itself.
>>> 4. A discussion?
>>> No. (I would have called a discussion an event.)
>>> 5. Is it well-defined in time, like a specific wedding ceremony
>>> or "the month of solmath" but unlike "the north wind" or the
>>> song "Galadriel's Lament"?
>>> Yes, it is pretty well defined in time.
>>> 6. Does it have a strong emotional impact on people involved?
>>> Yes, in a way.
>>> 7. Does it commemorate something?
>>> No.
>>> 8. A song?
>>> No.
>>> 9. Is it connected to several people (as opposed to one)?
>>> Yes.
>>> 10. Is it primarily connected to a single kindred?
>>> No.
>>> 11. Is it a period of time?
>>> No.
>>> 12. Does it last for a year or more?
>>> No.
>>> 13. Does it last for a day or less?
>>> I think it lasts longer than one day, but that may be debatable.
>>> 14. Does it take place/happen/manifest itself during the story
>>> of _LotR_ ?
>>> Yes, during the story of LotR.
>>> 15. Is it tied to a specific place?
>>> In a way. We don't learn too much about it, but localization is
>>> not one of its best defining properties.
>>> 16. Is it an opinion or a belief of some kind?
>>> No.
>>> 17. Is it an emotional state and/or state of mind?
>>> State of mind comes close, though it isn't strong enough. Your
>>> examples are far too weak.
>>> 18. So... we could say it's a emotion?
>>> No.
>>> 19. Is it inflicted by one being upon another, for example the
>>> Nazgul?
>>> Yes. But it's not the Black Breath. (Don't forget answer 10.)
>>> 20. Is it what Sam would call magic?
>>> Yes.
>>> 21. Is it the power of the Ring?
>>> No.
>>> 22. Is it a spell cast over one or more people?
>>> Tolkien doesn't use that word, but I'd call it that.
>>> 23. Is one person primarily responsible for casting the "spell"?
>>> Yes.
>>> 24. A person generally regarded as good?
>>> No.
>>> 25. Is the (primary) object of the "spell" one person?
>>> No.
>>> 26. Okay. I think I've got it. Is it The Voice Of Saruman?
>>> No.
>>> 27. The casting of the Darkness by Sauron?
>>> No.
> 28. The Black Breath that hit Éowyn and Merry?
> No.

Oh, wait. You already said that.

>> 28. Does it happen before Frodo enters into Moria?
> No.

29. Does it happen after the party splits up?

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Nautilus wrote:

>>>>> Something abstract.
>>>>> 1. Mentioned in LotR?
>>>>> Yes.
>>>>> 2. Are people involved?
>>>>> Yes.
>>>>> 3. An event?
>>>>> No. It is of course somehow connected with events, but it's not
>>>>> the event itself.
>>>>> 4. A discussion?
>>>>> No. (I would have called a discussion an event.)
>>>>> 5. Is it well-defined in time, like a specific wedding ceremony
>>>>> or "the month of solmath" but unlike "the north wind" or the
>>>>> song "Galadriel's Lament"?
>>>>> Yes, it is pretty well defined in time.
>>>>> 6. Does it have a strong emotional impact on people involved?
>>>>> Yes, in a way.
>>>>> 7. Does it commemorate something?
>>>>> No.
>>>>> 8. A song?
>>>>> No.
>>>>> 9. Is it connected to several people (as opposed to one)?
>>>>> Yes.
>>>>> 10. Is it primarily connected to a single kindred?
>>>>> No.
>>>>> 11. Is it a period of time?
>>>>> No.
>>>>> 12. Does it last for a year or more?
>>>>> No.
>>>>> 13. Does it last for a day or less?
>>>>> I think it lasts longer than one day, but that may be debatable.
>>>>> 14. Does it take place/happen/manifest itself during the story
>>>>> of _LotR_ ?
>>>>> Yes, during the story of LotR.
>>>>> 15. Is it tied to a specific place?
>>>>> In a way. We don't learn too much about it, but localization is
>>>>> not one of its best defining properties.
>>>>> 16. Is it an opinion or a belief of some kind?
>>>>> No.
>>>>> 17. Is it an emotional state and/or state of mind?
>>>>> State of mind comes close, though it isn't strong enough. Your
>>>>> examples are far too weak.
>>>>> 18. So... we could say it's a emotion?
>>>>> No.
>>>>> 19. Is it inflicted by one being upon another, for example the
>>>>> Nazgul?
>>>>> Yes. But it's not the Black Breath. (Don't forget answer 10.)
>>>>> 20. Is it what Sam would call magic?
>>>>> Yes.
>>>>> 21. Is it the power of the Ring?
>>>>> No.
>>>>> 22. Is it a spell cast over one or more people?
>>>>> Tolkien doesn't use that word, but I'd call it that.
>>>>> 23. Is one person primarily responsible for casting the "spell"?
>>>>> Yes.
>>>>> 24. A person generally regarded as good?
>>>>> No.
>>>>> 25. Is the (primary) object of the "spell" one person?
>>>>> No.
>>>>> 26. Okay. I think I've got it. Is it The Voice Of Saruman?
>>>>> No.
>>>>> 27. The casting of the Darkness by Sauron?
>>>>> No.
>>> 28. The Black Breath that hit Éowyn and Merry?
>>> No.
>>>> 28. Does it happen before Frodo enters into Moria?
>>> No.
>> 29. Does it happen after the party splits up?
> Yes.

30. Does it happen before Frodo enters Mordor?

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> Something abstract.
> 1. Mentioned in LotR?
> Yes.
> 2. Are people involved?
> Yes.
> 3. An event?
> No. It is of course somehow connected with events, but it's not
> the event itself.
> 4. A discussion?
> No. (I would have called a discussion an event.)
> 5. Is it well-defined in time, like a specific wedding ceremony
> or "the month of solmath" but unlike "the north wind" or the
> song "Galadriel's Lament"?
> Yes, it is pretty well defined in time.
> 6. Does it have a strong emotional impact on people involved?
> Yes, in a way.
> 7. Does it commemorate something?
> No.
> 8. A song?
> No.
> 9. Is it connected to several people (as opposed to one)?
> Yes.
> 10. Is it primarily connected to a single kindred?
> No.
> 11. Is it a period of time?
> No.
> 12. Does it last for a year or more?
> No.
> 13. Does it last for a day or less?
> I think it lasts longer than one day, but that may be debatable.
> 14. Does it take place/happen/manifest itself during the story
> of _LotR_ ?
> Yes, during the story of LotR.
> 15. Is it tied to a specific place?
> In a way. We don't learn too much about it, but localization is
> not one of its best defining properties.
> 16. Is it an opinion or a belief of some kind?
> No.
> 17. Is it an emotional state and/or state of mind?
> State of mind comes close, though it isn't strong enough. Your
> examples are far too weak.
> 18. So... we could say it's a emotion?
> No.
> 19. Is it inflicted by one being upon another, for example the
> Nazgul?
> Yes. But it's not the Black Breath. (Don't forget answer 10.)
> 20. Is it what Sam would call magic?
> Yes.
> 21. Is it the power of the Ring?
> No.
> 22. Is it a spell cast over one or more people?
> Tolkien doesn't use that word, but I'd call it that.
> 23. Is one person primarily responsible for casting the "spell"?
> Yes.
> 24. A person generally regarded as good?
> No.
> 25. Is the (primary) object of the "spell" one person?
> No.
> 26. Okay. I think I've got it. Is it The Voice Of Saruman?
> No.
> 27. The casting of the Darkness by Sauron?
> No.
> 28. The Black Breath that hit Éowyn and Merry?
> No.
> 29. Does it happen before Frodo enters into Moria?
> No.
> 30. Does it happen after the party splits up?
> Yes.
> 31. Does it happen before Frodo enters Mordor?
> Yes. Another hint: Frodo has nothing to do with "it".

32. Is Sauron the one casting the "spell"?

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>> > Something abstract.
>> > 1. Mentioned in LotR?
>> > Yes.
>> > 2. Are people involved?
>> > Yes.
>> > 3. An event?
>> > No. It is of course somehow connected with events, but it's not
>> > the event itself.
>> > 4. A discussion?
>> > No. (I would have called a discussion an event.)
>> > 5. Is it well-defined in time, like a specific wedding ceremony
>> > or "the month of solmath" but unlike "the north wind" or the
>> > song "Galadriel's Lament"?
>> > Yes, it is pretty well defined in time.
>> > 6. Does it have a strong emotional impact on people involved?
>> > Yes, in a way.
>> > 7. Does it commemorate something?
>> > No.
>> > 8. A song?
>> > No.
>> > 9. Is it connected to several people (as opposed to one)?
>> > Yes.
>> > 10. Is it primarily connected to a single kindred?
>> > No.
>> > 11. Is it a period of time?
>> > No.
>> > 12. Does it last for a year or more?
>> > No.
>> > 13. Does it last for a day or less?
>> > I think it lasts longer than one day, but that may be debatable.
>> > 14. Does it take place/happen/manifest itself during the story
>> > of _LotR_ ?
>> > Yes, during the story of LotR.
>> > 15. Is it tied to a specific place?
>> > In a way. We don't learn too much about it, but localization is
>> > not one of its best defining properties.
>> > 16. Is it an opinion or a belief of some kind?
>> > No.
>> > 17. Is it an emotional state and/or state of mind?
>> > State of mind comes close, though it isn't strong enough. Your
>> > examples are far too weak.
>> > 18. So... we could say it's a emotion?
>> > No.
>> > 19. Is it inflicted by one being upon another, for example the
>> > Nazgul?
>> > Yes. But it's not the Black Breath. (Don't forget answer 10.)
>> > 20. Is it what Sam would call magic?
>> > Yes.
>> > 21. Is it the power of the Ring?
>> > No.
>> > 22. Is it a spell cast over one or more people?
>> > Tolkien doesn't use that word, but I'd call it that.
>> > 23. Is one person primarily responsible for casting the "spell"?
>> > Yes.
>> > 24. A person generally regarded as good?
>> > No.
>> > 25. Is the (primary) object of the "spell" one person?
>> > No.
>> > 26. Okay. I think I've got it. Is it The Voice Of Saruman?
>> > No.
>> > 27. The casting of the Darkness by Sauron?
>> > No.
>> > 28. The Black Breath that hit Éowyn and Merry?
>> > No.
>> > 29. Does it happen before Frodo enters into Moria?
>> > No.
>> > 30. Does it happen after the party splits up?
>> > Yes.
>> > 31. Does it happen before Frodo enters Mordor?
>> > Yes. Another hint: Frodo has nothing to do with "it".
>> 32. Is Sauron the one casting the "spell"?
> Yes.

33. Is it the control Sauron exerts over his armies?

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On 2010-03-07, Nautilus wrote:
>> >> 32. Is Sauron the one casting the "spell"?
>> > Yes.

I'm confused. You talk about Saruman, but you answered the questions
to point at Sauron.
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Nautilus wrote:

> Julian Bradfield wrote:
>> On 2010-03-07, Nautilus wrote:
>>>>>> 32. Is Sauron the one casting the "spell"?
>>>>> Yes.
>> I'm confused. You talk about Saruman, but you answered the questions
>> to point at Sauron.
> I'm so sorry. I've looked up my old answers. It was twice today. I
> actually thought I had read "Saruman" where "Sauron" stood. I really
> did. What can I say? I was pretty tired today. I made the first
> mistake before I took a nap, and the second after I had woken up.
> Maybe that was the reason.

Well, that was an unfortunate ending, but I do thank you for taking the game
to new territory. I was engrossed.

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