Unspeakably Awful 'Foundation' Movie To Be Made

In article <iVRmk.20876$N87.8642@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com>,
Mike Schilling <mscottschilling DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Sean O'Hara wrote:
>> In the Year of the Earth Rat, the Great and Powerful erilar
>> declared:
>>> In article <3hhh94pf6teak3tcscde6tbarbpuh6d1n8 DeleteThis @4ax.com>,
>>> Jack Bohn <jackbohn DeleteThis @bright.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What, they remade it? And worse?!?
>>>
>>> Isn't that usually the case with remakes?
>>>
>>
>> No. Remakes of bad movies, and adaptations of classic books that
>> have been filmed before often turn out as good or better than the
>> original -- The Maltese Falcon, Wizard of Oz, Robin Hood, Three
>> Musketeers, Prisoner of Zenda, Dracula, Lord of the Rings ....
>
>Hoever, remakes of classic films and film versions of TV sitcoms [1]
>are AFAIK uniformly awful.
>
>1. "The Fugitive" OTOH, was quite fun.
>
>

THe first Brady Bunch movie was quite good (I haven't seen the second one).
The second Addams Family movie was good (supposedly the first one was
as well though I never saw it).

Some think the recent remake of that Adam West 60s sitcom is better than
the original..

Ted
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Mike Schilling wrote:
> Sean O'Hara wrote:
>> In the Year of the Earth Rat, the Great and Powerful erilar
>> declared:
>>> In article <3hhh94pf6teak3tcscde6tbarbpuh6d1n8.TakeThisOut@4ax.com>,
>>> Jack Bohn <jackbohn.TakeThisOut@bright.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What, they remade it? And worse?!?
>>> Isn't that usually the case with remakes?
>>>
>> No. Remakes of bad movies, and adaptations of classic books that
>> have been filmed before often turn out as good or better than the
>> original -- The Maltese Falcon, Wizard of Oz, Robin Hood, Three
>> Musketeers, Prisoner of Zenda, Dracula, Lord of the Rings ....
>
> Hoever, remakes of classic films and film versions of TV sitcoms [1]
> are AFAIK uniformly awful.
>
> 1. "The Fugitive" OTOH, was quite fun.
>
>

I give you both Addams Family movies as counterexamples. I think the
second was even better than the first, but the first I found to be quite
good.

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Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor) wrote:
> Mike Schilling wrote:
>> Sean O'Hara wrote:
>>> In the Year of the Earth Rat, the Great and Powerful erilar
>>> declared:
>>>> In article <3hhh94pf6teak3tcscde6tbarbpuh6d1n8 RemoveThis @4ax.com>,
>>>> Jack Bohn <jackbohn RemoveThis @bright.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What, they remade it? And worse?!?
>>>> Isn't that usually the case with remakes?
>>>>
>>> No. Remakes of bad movies, and adaptations of classic books that
>>> have been filmed before often turn out as good or better than the
>>> original -- The Maltese Falcon, Wizard of Oz, Robin Hood, Three
>>> Musketeers, Prisoner of Zenda, Dracula, Lord of the Rings ....
>>
>> Hoever, remakes of classic films and film versions of TV sitcoms
>> [1]
>> are AFAIK uniformly awful.
>>
>> 1. "The Fugitive" OTOH, was quite fun.
>>
>>
>
> I give you both Addams Family movies as counterexamples. I think the
> second was even better than the first, but the first I found to be
> quite good.

OK, that's true. Still, exceptions are few and far between.
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Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
> In article <iVRmk.20876$N87.8642@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> Mike Schilling <mscottschilling.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Sean O'Hara wrote:
>>> In the Year of the Earth Rat, the Great and Powerful erilar
>>> declared:
>>>> In article <3hhh94pf6teak3tcscde6tbarbpuh6d1n8.TakeThisOut@4ax.com>,
>>>> Jack Bohn <jackbohn.TakeThisOut@bright.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What, they remade it? And worse?!?
>>>> Isn't that usually the case with remakes?
>>>>
>>> No. Remakes of bad movies, and adaptations of classic books that
>>> have been filmed before often turn out as good or better than the
>>> original -- The Maltese Falcon, Wizard of Oz, Robin Hood, Three
>>> Musketeers, Prisoner of Zenda, Dracula, Lord of the Rings ....
>> Hoever, remakes of classic films and film versions of TV sitcoms [1]
>> are AFAIK uniformly awful.
>>
>> 1. "The Fugitive" OTOH, was quite fun.
>>
>>
>
> THe first Brady Bunch movie was quite good (I haven't seen the second one).
> The second Addams Family movie was good (supposedly the first one was
> as well though I never saw it).

It was. I think the second may have been better but both were good.

>
> Some think the recent remake of that Adam West 60s sitcom is better than
> the original..

heh.


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On 2008-08-07 23:42:22 -0700, "Mike Schilling"
<mscottschilling.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> said:

> Sean O'Hara wrote:
>> In the Year of the Earth Rat, the Great and Powerful erilar
>> declared:
>>> In article <3hhh94pf6teak3tcscde6tbarbpuh6d1n8.DeleteThis@4ax.com>,
>>> Jack Bohn <jackbohn.DeleteThis@bright.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What, they remade it? And worse?!?
>>>
>>> Isn't that usually the case with remakes?
>>>
>>
>> No. Remakes of bad movies, and adaptations of classic books that
>> have been filmed before often turn out as good or better than the
>> original -- The Maltese Falcon, Wizard of Oz, Robin Hood, Three
>> Musketeers, Prisoner of Zenda, Dracula, Lord of the Rings ....
>
> Hoever, remakes of classic films and film versions of TV sitcoms [1]
> are AFAIK uniformly awful.
>
> 1. "The Fugitive" OTOH, was quite fun.

One of the remakes of FREAKY FRIDAY was considerably better than the
original, as was the remake of THE PARENT TRAP.

The remake of THE THOMAS CROWN AFFAIR was an improvement, too.

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Kurt Busiek wrote:
> On 2008-08-07 23:42:22 -0700, "Mike Schilling"
> <mscottschilling.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> said:
>
>> Sean O'Hara wrote:
>>> In the Year of the Earth Rat, the Great and Powerful erilar
>>> declared:
>>>> In article <3hhh94pf6teak3tcscde6tbarbpuh6d1n8.RemoveThis@4ax.com>,
>>>> Jack Bohn <jackbohn.RemoveThis@bright.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What, they remade it? And worse?!?
>>>>
>>>> Isn't that usually the case with remakes?
>>>>
>>>
>>> No. Remakes of bad movies, and adaptations of classic books that
>>> have been filmed before often turn out as good or better than the
>>> original -- The Maltese Falcon, Wizard of Oz, Robin Hood, Three
>>> Musketeers, Prisoner of Zenda, Dracula, Lord of the Rings ....
>>
>> Hoever, remakes of classic films and film versions of TV sitcoms
>> [1]
>> are AFAIK uniformly awful.
>>
>> 1. "The Fugitive" OTOH, was quite fun.
>
> One of the remakes of FREAKY FRIDAY was considerably better than the
> original, as was the remake of THE PARENT TRAP.

I think we're stretching the meaning of "classic".

>
> The remake of THE THOMAS CROWN AFFAIR was an improvement, too.

And I enjoyed that recent "Italian Job" more than I did the Michael
Caine version. Still, see my first comment.

Anyway, it's a good thing no one will ever have the chutzpah to remake
"The Manchurian Candidate". Or "Sleuth".
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On 2008-08-08 05:00:24 -0700, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"
<seawasp RemoveThis @sgeinc.invalid.com> said:

> Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>> Some think the recent remake of that Adam West 60s sitcom is better than
>> the original..
>
> heh.

He must be referring to the one where George Clooney and Chris
O'Donnell play West and Ward.

And is still wrong...

kdb
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Kurt Busiek wrote:
> On 2008-08-08 05:00:24 -0700, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"
> <seawasp DeleteThis @sgeinc.invalid.com> said:
>
>> Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>>> Some think the recent remake of that Adam West 60s sitcom is
>>> better
>>> than the original..
>>
>> heh.
>
> He must be referring to the one where George Clooney and Chris
> O'Donnell play West and Ward.

Is it a coincidence that Ward played the ward?
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On 2008-08-08 08:52:58 -0700, "Mike Schilling"
<mscottschilling.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> said:

> Kurt Busiek wrote:
>> On 2008-08-07 23:42:22 -0700, "Mike Schilling"
>> <mscottschilling.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> said:
>>
>>> Sean O'Hara wrote:
>>>> In the Year of the Earth Rat, the Great and Powerful erilar
>>>> declared:
>>>>> In article <3hhh94pf6teak3tcscde6tbarbpuh6d1n8.TakeThisOut@4ax.com>,
>>>>> Jack Bohn <jackbohn.TakeThisOut@bright.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> What, they remade it? And worse?!?
>>>>>
>>>>> Isn't that usually the case with remakes?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No. Remakes of bad movies, and adaptations of classic books that
>>>> have been filmed before often turn out as good or better than the
>>>> original -- The Maltese Falcon, Wizard of Oz, Robin Hood, Three
>>>> Musketeers, Prisoner of Zenda, Dracula, Lord of the Rings ....
>>>
>>> Hoever, remakes of classic films and film versions of TV sitcoms
>>> [1]
>>> are AFAIK uniformly awful.
>>>
>>> 1. "The Fugitive" OTOH, was quite fun.
>>
>> One of the remakes of FREAKY FRIDAY was considerably better than the
>> original, as was the remake of THE PARENT TRAP.
>
> I think we're stretching the meaning of "classic".

In the former case, perhaps. In the latter, I don't think so. It's
just a different demographic that considered it so...

>> The remake of THE THOMAS CROWN AFFAIR was an improvement, too.
>
> And I enjoyed that recent "Italian Job" more than I did the Michael
> Caine version. Still, see my first comment.
>
> Anyway, it's a good thing no one will ever have the chutzpah to remake
> "The Manchurian Candidate". Or "Sleuth".

Oh, I don't know. Maybe they could Michael Caine to play the other role!

kdb
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On 2008-08-08 08:55:33 -0700, "Mike Schilling"
<mscottschilling.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> said:

> Kurt Busiek wrote:
>> On 2008-08-08 05:00:24 -0700, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"
>> <seawasp.DeleteThis@sgeinc.invalid.com> said:
>>
>>> Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>>>> Some think the recent remake of that Adam West 60s sitcom is
>>>> better
>>>> than the original..
>>>
>>> heh.
>>
>> He must be referring to the one where George Clooney and Chris
>> O'Donnell play West and Ward.
>
> Is it a coincidence that Ward played the ward?

Hmm. Maybe they should have gotten Sela Ward for the remake.

kdb
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Kurt Busiek wrote:
> On 2008-08-08 08:52:58 -0700, "Mike Schilling"
> <mscottschilling.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> said:
>
>> Kurt Busiek wrote:
>>> On 2008-08-07 23:42:22 -0700, "Mike Schilling"
>>> <mscottschilling.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> said:
>>>
>>>> Sean O'Hara wrote:
>>>>> In the Year of the Earth Rat, the Great and Powerful erilar
>>>>> declared:
>>>>>> In article <3hhh94pf6teak3tcscde6tbarbpuh6d1n8.TakeThisOut@4ax.com>,
>>>>>> Jack Bohn <jackbohn.TakeThisOut@bright.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What, they remade it? And worse?!?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Isn't that usually the case with remakes?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No. Remakes of bad movies, and adaptations of classic books that
>>>>> have been filmed before often turn out as good or better than
>>>>> the
>>>>> original -- The Maltese Falcon, Wizard of Oz, Robin Hood, Three
>>>>> Musketeers, Prisoner of Zenda, Dracula, Lord of the Rings ....
>>>>
>>>> Hoever, remakes of classic films and film versions of TV sitcoms
>>>> [1]
>>>> are AFAIK uniformly awful.
>>>>
>>>> 1. "The Fugitive" OTOH, was quite fun.
>>>
>>> One of the remakes of FREAKY FRIDAY was considerably better than
>>> the
>>> original, as was the remake of THE PARENT TRAP.
>>
>> I think we're stretching the meaning of "classic".
>
> In the former case, perhaps. In the latter, I don't think so. It's
> just a different demographic that considered it so...
>
>>> The remake of THE THOMAS CROWN AFFAIR was an improvement, too.
>>
>> And I enjoyed that recent "Italian Job" more than I did the Michael
>> Caine version. Still, see my first comment.
>>
>> Anyway, it's a good thing no one will ever have the chutzpah to
>> remake "The Manchurian Candidate". Or "Sleuth".
>
> Oh, I don't know. Maybe they could Michael Caine to play the other
> role!

That's an idea. Though Olivier is kind of old and dead to play Milo.
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Kurt Busiek wrote:
> On 2008-08-08 08:55:33 -0700, "Mike Schilling"
> <mscottschilling.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> said:
>
>> Kurt Busiek wrote:
>>> On 2008-08-08 05:00:24 -0700, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"
>>> <seawasp.TakeThisOut@sgeinc.invalid.com> said:
>>>
>>>> Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>>>>> Some think the recent remake of that Adam West 60s sitcom is
>>>>> better
>>>>> than the original..
>>>>
>>>> heh.
>>>
>>> He must be referring to the one where George Clooney and Chris
>>> O'Donnell play West and Ward.
>>
>> Is it a coincidence that Ward played the ward?
>
> Hmm. Maybe they should have gotten Sela Ward for the remake.

You are just loaded with good idea today.
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On 2008-08-08 09:21:21 -0700, "Mike Schilling"
<mscottschilling.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> said:

> Kurt Busiek wrote:
>> On 2008-08-08 08:52:58 -0700, "Mike Schilling"
>> <mscottschilling.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> said:
>>
>>> Kurt Busiek wrote:
>>>> On 2008-08-07 23:42:22 -0700, "Mike Schilling"
>>>> <mscottschilling.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> said:
>>>>
>>>>> Sean O'Hara wrote:
>>>>>> In the Year of the Earth Rat, the Great and Powerful erilar
>>>>>> declared:
>>>>>>> In article <3hhh94pf6teak3tcscde6tbarbpuh6d1n8.TakeThisOut@4ax.com>,
>>>>>>> Jack Bohn <jackbohn.TakeThisOut@bright.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What, they remade it? And worse?!?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Isn't that usually the case with remakes?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No. Remakes of bad movies, and adaptations of classic books that
>>>>>> have been filmed before often turn out as good or better than
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> original -- The Maltese Falcon, Wizard of Oz, Robin Hood, Three
>>>>>> Musketeers, Prisoner of Zenda, Dracula, Lord of the Rings ....
>>>>>
>>>>> Hoever, remakes of classic films and film versions of TV sitcoms
>>>>> [1]
>>>>> are AFAIK uniformly awful.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. "The Fugitive" OTOH, was quite fun.
>>>>
>>>> One of the remakes of FREAKY FRIDAY was considerably better than
>>>> the
>>>> original, as was the remake of THE PARENT TRAP.
>>>
>>> I think we're stretching the meaning of "classic".
>>
>> In the former case, perhaps. In the latter, I don't think so. It's
>> just a different demographic that considered it so...
>>
>>>> The remake of THE THOMAS CROWN AFFAIR was an improvement, too.
>>>
>>> And I enjoyed that recent "Italian Job" more than I did the Michael
>>> Caine version. Still, see my first comment.
>>>
>>> Anyway, it's a good thing no one will ever have the chutzpah to
>>> remake "The Manchurian Candidate". Or "Sleuth".
>>
>> Oh, I don't know. Maybe they could Michael Caine to play the other
>> role!
>
> That's an idea. Though Olivier is kind of old and dead to play Milo.

We'll get some other Brit with a long face and good cheekbones.

It'll be like having a young Olivier!

kdb
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