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Since: Aug 11, 2005 Posts: 1
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 8:21 am
Post subject: Water damage books Archived from groups: rec>collecting>books (more info?)
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Dear all
i just had an unfortunate event happened to my book collection. i live
in an apartment, and the tenant living in the unit above mine forgot to
turn off their bath tub water tap and flooded his apartment. The water
sipped into and through the floor and dripped (more like poured)
directly onto my book shelf, and caused most of the books that i put
onto that book shelf soaked wet. as i didn't discover this after an
hour or so (just guessing), several books that were directly below the
leaking point were complete soaked and expanded and the spine on these
books were ripped apart. but most of them were half-soaked, with the
warm water soaked up to about half of the book. It's almost a week now
and I am still trying to dry them, and they are still wet.
now here is the question. how much should i ask the tenant above me to
compensate for these books? for the severely damaged ones, i guess i
can go with the replacement cost. but what about the half-soaked ones?
should i still charge him for the replacement cost or is there a
commonly acceptable way to adjust this damage?
any thoughts are highly appreciated, as the tenant is pressing me for a
list of damages so that he can settle it asap.
thanks a lot
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Since: May 24, 2005 Posts: 26
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 9:29 am
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The books are practically worthless now. No one would want to buy them
whether dealer or collector, not unless they were very rare, if not
unique.
I would suggest claiming for the full replacement cost. I am sure that
any respectable bookdealer would provide you with a written statement
in support of the fact that a water damaged book is worthless.
Additionally I am sure that there are websites which discuss water
damage with a view to repair. I am sure they will say that values
plummet after a good soaking.
You can quickly cull book values from ABE and prepare a spreadsheet
detailing the cost of replacing like-for-like. Then it would down to
the loss adjustor to dispute your claim.
Good luck,
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:06 am
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Since: Jul 12, 2005 Posts: 13
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 11:34 am
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Since: Dec 22, 2004 Posts: 106
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 8:57 pm
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> The books are practically worthless now. No one would want to buy them
> whether dealer or collector, not unless they were very rare, if not
> unique.
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> I would suggest claiming for the full replacement cost. I am sure that
> any respectable bookdealer would provide you with a written statement
> in support of the fact that a water damaged book is worthless.
I agree. Once you get water damage, there's no way to fix it. You
can dry the book and still read it, but it is an ugly experience. >> Stay informed about: Water damage books |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 9:00 pm
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Charge him as much money as he can afford to pay. Regardless of the books'
values.
<AndrewChakOnSee.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1123773664.108308.325300@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> Dear all
>
> i just had an unfortunate event happened to my book collection. i live
> in an apartment, and the tenant living in the unit above mine forgot to
> turn off their bath tub water tap and flooded his apartment. The water
> sipped into and through the floor and dripped (more like poured)
> directly onto my book shelf, and caused most of the books that i put
> onto that book shelf soaked wet. as i didn't discover this after an
> hour or so (just guessing), several books that were directly below the
> leaking point were complete soaked and expanded and the spine on these
> books were ripped apart. but most of them were half-soaked, with the
> warm water soaked up to about half of the book. It's almost a week now
> and I am still trying to dry them, and they are still wet.
>
> now here is the question. how much should i ask the tenant above me to
> compensate for these books? for the severely damaged ones, i guess i
> can go with the replacement cost. but what about the half-soaked ones?
> should i still charge him for the replacement cost or is there a
> commonly acceptable way to adjust this damage?
>
> any thoughts are highly appreciated, as the tenant is pressing me for a
> list of damages so that he can settle it asap.
>
> thanks a lot
>
> andrew
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Since: Jul 31, 2005 Posts: 6
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 9:25 pm
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On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 20:57:41 GMT, Al Smith <invalid.RemoveThis@address.com>
wrote:
>> The books are practically worthless now. No one would want to buy them
>> whether dealer or collector, not unless they were very rare, if not
>> unique.
>>
>> I would suggest claiming for the full replacement cost. I am sure that
>> any respectable bookdealer would provide you with a written statement
>> in support of the fact that a water damaged book is worthless.
>
>I agree. Once you get water damage, there's no way to fix it. You
>can dry the book and still read it, but it is an ugly experience.
From the point of view of a disaster restoration pro, list them at
full replacement value. We could dry books out, but we could do
absolutely --nothing- to restore their collectable value. They're now
reading copies, at best. Pulp at worst.
Barb >> Stay informed about: Water damage books |
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Since: Apr 21, 2005 Posts: 35
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 6:48 am
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on Thu, 11 Aug 2005 21:00:16 -0700, Allan Cole stated:
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>Charge him as much money as he can afford to pay. Regardless of the books'
>values.
I realize that getting one's books ruined is a Very Horrific
Disaster, but really. Charging someone as much as they can
afford to pay regardless of what you deserve is dishonest.
You aren't, by any chance, American, are you?
-Allison
we've got such a bad rep already.
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><AndrewChakOnSee.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1123773664.108308.325300@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>> Dear all
>>
>> i just had an unfortunate event happened to my book collection. i live
>> in an apartment, and the tenant living in the unit above mine forgot to
>> turn off their bath tub water tap and flooded his apartment. The water
>> sipped into and through the floor and dripped (more like poured)
>> directly onto my book shelf, and caused most of the books that i put
>> onto that book shelf soaked wet. as i didn't discover this after an
>> hour or so (just guessing), several books that were directly below the
>> leaking point were complete soaked and expanded and the spine on these
>> books were ripped apart. but most of them were half-soaked, with the
>> warm water soaked up to about half of the book. It's almost a week now
>> and I am still trying to dry them, and they are still wet.
>>
>> now here is the question. how much should i ask the tenant above me to
>> compensate for these books? for the severely damaged ones, i guess i
>> can go with the replacement cost. but what about the half-soaked ones?
>> should i still charge him for the replacement cost or is there a
>> commonly acceptable way to adjust this damage?
>>
>> any thoughts are highly appreciated, as the tenant is pressing me for a
>> list of damages so that he can settle it asap.
>>
>> thanks a lot
>>
>> andrew
>>
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Since: Jul 16, 2005 Posts: 45
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 2:40 pm
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Americans are a generous people, therefore you could read into this
that if he can't afford to pay much, then the victim would be willing
to accept wharever he could afford, evenif it was a hundred bucks.
Seriously tho one would hope both parties had homeowners' insurance,
making the discussion moot, as insurance companies can afford to pay
whatever the damage is.
Denton
On 12 Aug 2005 06:48:53 -0700, Allison Turner- <betonica.DeleteThis@sover.net>
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>>Charge him as much money as he can afford to pay. Regardless of the books'
>>values.
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>I realize that getting one's books ruined is a Very Horrific
>Disaster, but really. Charging someone as much as they can
>afford to pay regardless of what you deserve is dishonest.
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Since: Aug 11, 2005 Posts: 2
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 11:28 pm
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> Americans are a generous people, therefore you could read into this
> that if he can't afford to pay much, then the victim would be willing
> to accept wharever he could afford, evenif it was a hundred bucks.
No, I meant that he should take the fool for all he has because only an
idiot who deserves what he gets would be dumb enough to let that much water
overflow and ruin the property of others. >> Stay informed about: Water damage books |
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