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 >I may tune in my radio tonight to see if I can pick up any music programs
 >being broadcast from a satelite.

Oh, do you subscribe to sattellite radio service?

I heard good things, how is it?

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  >>I may tune in my radio tonight to see if I can pick up any music
  >>programs being broadcast from a satelite.
 >
 > Oh, do you subscribe to sattellite radio service?
 >
 > I heard good things, how is it?
 >
 > Can you get Linda Fox?
 >

Linda Fox is fantastic.

I was thninking specifically about a bloke sitting in the satellite with
a bunch of records. But I guess the obvious interpretation slipped my
mind.

Arthur C. Clarke (ACC) might have forecast the use of satelites in a cold
clinical business and commerce type of way, but it took PKD to foresee
Digital radio playing hours of mush.

That's one of the things I like about PKD. Futuristic technologies are
not being predicted in the usual SF manner of "What would be a big leap
forward?" but in the kind of reverse-engineered human psychology way of
"what dumb things can we use technology for?" - like mobile video phones,
for example: There may be a really beneficial use for the technology, but
oh no - we humans have to use it to send an embarrassing photo taken at a
party to a mate down the pub.

The developed world in the 21st century has turned out to be part-PKD,
part-Orwell with a little ACC thrown in: When most people would prefer to
think that we're going straight down the ACC path.

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 >Arthur C. Clarke (ACC) might have forecast the use of satelites in a cold
 >clinical business and commerce type of way, but it took PKD to foresee
 >Digital radio playing hours of mush.

 >That's one of the things I like about PKD. Futuristic technologies are
 >not being predicted in the usual SF manner of "What would be a big leap
 >forward?" but in the kind of reverse-engineered human psychology way of
 >"what dumb things can we use technology for?" - like mobile video phones,
 >for example: There may be a really beneficial use for the technology, but
 >oh no - we humans have to use it to send an embarrassing photo taken at a
 >party to a mate down the pub.

 >The developed world in the 21st century has turned out to be part-PKD,
 >part-Orwell with a little ACC thrown in: When most people would prefer to
 >think that we're going straight down the ACC path.
 >
 >

Don't forget Ray Bradbury. I forget exactly when he penned "Farenheit 451" ,
(Early-mid '50s IIRC ) but he accurately
predicted 24 hr ATMs, and giant screen
interactive t.v., live t.v "America's most wanted" style manhunts, and over-the
-top
political correctness run amok.

Does anyone know of any S.F. that accurately predicted the rise of the
internet? ( besides William Gibson, who came pretty close...but then he WAS
writing in the early '80s)

If I were a writer, I'd like to do a story about a time traveler who goes back
to the early fifties sci-fi cons to fuck with peoples heads...

(Drunken Swagger) "Moon colonies? In the
SEVENTIES? (Derisive laughter)....

"Atomic war? with the SOVIETS? in the year 2000? yeah...RIGHT! ( muttering
stage whisper) "Morons...don't you know the CCCP collapses in '92?..."

And so on. It's just an Idea, but something I think a real writer could have
fun with.

 >Regards,
 > Dave

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On 26 Nov 2003 14:03:50 GMT, Dave Ryman wrote:
 >"what dumb things can we use technology for?" - like mobile video phones,
 >for example: There may be a really beneficial use for the technology, but
 >oh no - we humans have to use it to send an embarrassing photo taken at a
 >party to a mate down the pub.

So there is at least ONE person in this world using the camera?

I'm surprised
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 > On 26 Nov 2003 14:03:50 GMT, Dave Ryman wrote:
  >>"what dumb things can we use technology for?" - like mobile video
  >>phones, for example: There may be a really beneficial use for the
  >>technology, but oh no - we humans have to use it to send an
  >>embarrassing photo taken at a party to a mate down the pub.
 >
 > So there is at least ONE person in this world using the camera?
 >
 > I'm surprised
 > Aleks
 >

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"Dave Ryman" <dave_rymanNOSPAM.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote ...
 > I saw a trailer on the TV tonight. Sadly, I was so awestruck that I didn't
 > take in the time, day, channel or programme title!
 >
 > It purports that there is a young boy in Russia who was carrying his
unborn
 > twin inside him - much to his mum's surprise!
 >
 > Whether this is fact, recent urban myth or an outright hoax, I have no
idea
 > - but if it is true, it's just toooo wacky.

It is true, and it's happened before. It's a rare medical condition called
foetus in foetu.

Here's links explaining the phenomena:
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,4713654-111392,00.html" target="_blank">http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,4713654-111392,00.html</a>
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/links/doi/10.1046/j.1469-0705.2001.00452.x/abs/" target="_blank">http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/links/doi/10.1046/j.1469-0705.2001.00452.x/abs/</a>

Here's a link of other such examples:
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=19990518073900.25206.00001977%40ng140.aol.com" target="_blank">http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=19990518073900.25206.00001977%40n...0.aol.c</a>

I don't know how long this condition has been classified, but a search
for "foetus in foetu" brings up a quote from James Joyce's Ulysses,
which contains the phrase:
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.web-books.com/Classics/Fiction/Other/Joyce_Ulysses/Ulysses_14_9.htm" target="_blank">http://www.web-books.com/Classics/Fiction/Other/Joyce_Ulysses/Ulysses_14_9.htm</a>

So I'm guessing PKD didn't "predict" this condition, but rather knew
about it and used it as the basis for one of his characters, exaggerating
the condition to create a fully formed foetus still alive and psychically
linked to it's twin.

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"Jay G" <Jay.DeleteThis@tmbg.org> wrote in news:vsk9oo53rjbf6b@corp.supernews.com:

 >
 > "Dave Ryman" <dave_rymanNOSPAM.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote ...
  >> I saw a trailer on the TV tonight. Sadly, I was so awestruck that I
  >> didn't take in the time, day, channel or programme title!
  >>
  >> It purports that there is a young boy in Russia who was carrying his
 > unborn
  >> twin inside him - much to his mum's surprise!
  >>
  >> Whether this is fact, recent urban myth or an outright hoax, I have
  >> no
 > idea
  >> - but if it is true, it's just toooo wacky.
 >
 > It is true, and it's happened before. It's a rare medical condition
 > called foetus in foetu.
 >
 > Here's links explaining the phenomena:
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,4713654-111392,00.html</font" target="_blank">http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,4713654-111392,00.html</font</a>>
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/links/doi/10.1046/j.1469-0705.2001.004</font" target="_blank">http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/links/doi/10.1046/j.1469-0705.2001.004</font</a>>
 > 52.x/abs/
 >
 > Here's a link of other such examples:
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=19990518073900.25206.00001977%40ng</font" target="_blank">http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=19990518073900.25206.00001977%40ng</font</a>>
 > 140.aol.com
 >
 > I don't know how long this condition has been classified, but a search
 > for "foetus in foetu" brings up a quote from James Joyce's Ulysses,
 > which contains the phrase:
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.web-books.com/Classics/Fiction/Other/Joyce_Ulysses/Ulysses_1</font" target="_blank">http://www.web-books.com/Classics/Fiction/Other/Joyce_Ulysses/Ulysses_1</font</a>>
 > 4_9.htm
 >
 > So I'm guessing PKD didn't "predict" this condition, but rather knew
 > about it and used it as the basis for one of his characters,
 > exaggerating the condition to create a fully formed foetus still alive
 > and psychically linked to it's twin.
 >
 > -Jay
 >
 >
 >

I hadn't heard of this before - we've had more trailers here for the
program - channel 4 is building it up. I got the impression from one of
the trailers and my original search on the net that it's not unique.

I concur - I think PKD probably just dramatised it a bit more by having
the foetus talking to the "carrier".

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Not so long ago, Tyedboyne wrote:
 > Don't forget Ray Bradbury. I forget exactly when he penned "Farenheit 451" ,
 > (Early-mid '50s IIRC ) but he accurately
 > predicted 24 hr ATMs, and giant screen
 > interactive t.v., live t.v "America's most wanted" style manhunts, and
 > over-the-top political correctness run amok.

And the rarity of pedestrians

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There is a PK Dick short story about just that. He re-imagines SF
writers as prophets and time travelers from the future do go back to a
SciFi Con in order to kidnap one of them. I cant remember the title
offhand, but it's in the Collected Short stories of PK Dick.

On 26 Nov 2003 14:53:18 GMT, tyedboyne.RemoveThis@aol.comdeadspam (Tyedboyne)
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  >>Arthur C. Clarke (ACC) might have forecast the use of satelites in a cold
  >>clinical business and commerce type of way, but it took PKD to foresee
  >>Digital radio playing hours of mush.
 >
  >>That's one of the things I like about PKD. Futuristic technologies are
  >>not being predicted in the usual SF manner of "What would be a big leap
  >>forward?" but in the kind of reverse-engineered human psychology way of
  >>"what dumb things can we use technology for?" - like mobile video phones,
  >>for example: There may be a really beneficial use for the technology, but
  >>oh no - we humans have to use it to send an embarrassing photo taken at a
  >>party to a mate down the pub.
 >
  >>The developed world in the 21st century has turned out to be part-PKD,
  >>part-Orwell with a little ACC thrown in: When most people would prefer to
  >>think that we're going straight down the ACC path.
  >>
  >>
 >
 >Don't forget Ray Bradbury. I forget exactly when he penned "Farenheit 451" ,
 >(Early-mid '50s IIRC ) but he accurately
 >predicted 24 hr ATMs, and giant screen
 >interactive t.v., live t.v "America's most wanted" style manhunts, and over-the
 >-top
 >political correctness run amok.
 >
 >Does anyone know of any S.F. that accurately predicted the rise of the
 >internet? ( besides William Gibson, who came pretty close...but then he WAS
 >writing in the early '80s)
 >
 >If I were a writer, I'd like to do a story about a time traveler who goes back
 >to the early fifties sci-fi cons to fuck with peoples heads...
 >
 >(Drunken Swagger) "Moon colonies? In the
 >SEVENTIES? (Derisive laughter)....
 >
 >"Atomic war? with the SOVIETS? in the year 2000? yeah...RIGHT! ( muttering
 >stage whisper) "Morons...don't you know the CCCP collapses in '92?..."
 >
 >And so on. It's just an Idea, but something I think a real writer could have
 >fun with.
 >
  >>Regards,
  >> Dave
 >
 >BackAtchYa,
 >
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 > There is a PK Dick short story about just that. He re-imagines SF
 > writers as prophets and time travelers from the future do go back to a
 > SciFi Con in order to kidnap one of them. I cant remember the title
 > offhand, but it's in the Collected Short stories of PK Dick.
 >
 >
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Rings a bell

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"davey jones" <skin-job DeleteThis @ameritech.net> wrote...
 > There is a PK Dick short story about just that. He re-imagines SF
 > writers as prophets and time travelers from the future do go back to a
 > SciFi Con in order to kidnap one of them. I cant remember the title
 > offhand, but it's in the Collected Short stories of PK Dick.

It's titled "Waterspider."

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