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Öjevind Lång

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:09 pm
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And in that case, who hunted them? Did they serve roasted wild boar at the
inns in the Shire?

Öjevind

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:09 pm
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Öjevind Lång wrote:

> And in that case, who hunted them? Did they serve roasted wild boar at the
> inns in the Shire?

Didn't the Elf King in the Greenwood hunt boar (from /The Hobbit/)?
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derek

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:09 pm
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On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 18:09:03 +0100, "Öjevind Lång"
<bredband.net DeleteThis @ojevind.lang> wrote:

>And in that case, who hunted them? Did they serve roasted wild boar at the
>inns in the Shire?

My Great Tolkien Read-Fest of 2007/2008 has reached HOME Vol XII, and
some of the material on the Preface and Appendices indicate that the
Shire was, at the time it was given to the Hobbits, a Royal Hunting
Preserve. And, one of the conditions of the gift was that the King (of
Arnor) could hunt three times a year in the Shire.

So, perhaps the Kings of Arnor hunted wild boars -- in the Shire!

And perhaps King Elessar, in declaring the Shire off-limits to all Big
Men, was alienating this right.
--
"A portent, therefore, happens not contrary to nature,
but contrary to what we know as nature."
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:09 pm
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On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 18:09:03 +0100, "Öjevind Lång"
<bredband.net.DeleteThis@ojevind.lang> wrote:

>And in that case, who hunted them? Did they serve roasted wild boar at the
>inns in the Shire?
>
>Öjevind
>
When Frodo is stabbed with a spear in Moria, Aragorn carries him away.
When Frodo says he is alright, Aragorn exclaims:

`Well,' said Aragorn, `I can only say that hobbits are made of a
stuff so tough that I have never met the like of it. Had I known,
I would have spoken softer in the Inn at Bree! That spear-thrust
would have skewered a wild boar! '

So, it would appear that there were wild boars in Middle-Earth.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:59 pm
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"Öjevind Lång" <bredband.net.RemoveThis@ojevind.lang> skrev i meddelelsen
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> And in that case, who hunted them? Did they serve roasted wild boar at the
> inns in the Shire?

From the tale of kings of Rohan ---

2804-64 13. Folca. He was a great hunter, but he vowed to chase no wild
beast while there was an Orc left in Rohan. When the last orc-hold was
found and destroyed, he went to hunt the great boar of Everhold in the
Firien Wood. He slew the boar but died of the tusk-wounds that it gave him.

Korpen.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 9:58 pm
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"Raven" <jon.lennart.beck.its.my.name.TakeThisOut@mail.its.in.danmark> skrev i
meddelandet news:47a8a41c$0$2089$edfadb0f@dtext02.news.tele.dk...
> "Öjevind Lång" <bredband.net.TakeThisOut@ojevind.lang> skrev i meddelelsen
> news:60rjhhF1sel3aU1@mid.individual.net...
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>> And in that case, who hunted them? Did they serve roasted wild boar at
>> the inns in the Shire?
>
> From the tale of kings of Rohan ---
>
> 2804-64 13. Folca. He was a great hunter, but he vowed to chase no wild
> beast while there was an Orc left in Rohan. When the last orc-hold was
> found and destroyed, he went to hunt the great boar of Everhold in the
> Firien Wood. He slew the boar but died of the tusk-wounds that it gave
> him.

You know, I had a vague feeling there was something like that somewhere in
the books. Especially the name Everhold rings a bell.

Öjevind
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 12:04 am
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"Öjevind Lång" <bredband.net RemoveThis @ojevind.lang> skrev i meddelelsen
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> "Raven" <jon.lennart.beck.its.my.name RemoveThis @mail.its.in.danmark> skrev i
> meddelandet news:47a8a41c$0$2089$edfadb0f@dtext02.news.tele.dk...

>> 2804-64 13. Folca. He was a great hunter, but he vowed to chase no wild
>> beast while there was an Orc left in Rohan. When the last orc-hold was
>> found and destroyed, he went to hunt the great boar of Everhold in the
>> Firien Wood. He slew the boar but died of the tusk-wounds that it gave
>> him.

> You know, I had a vague feeling there was something like that somewhere in
> the books. Especially the name Everhold rings a bell.

Well, if I had speld it correctly it woult presumably have rung a clearer
bell. It's "Everholt". Raven, you dribbling imbecile!

Korpen.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 3:25 pm
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On Feb 5, 12:09 pm, "Öjevind Lång" <bredband.....DeleteThis@ojevind.lang> wrote:
> And in that case, who hunted them? Did they serve roasted wild boar at the
> inns in the Shire?

RUNTS research suggests that in the elder days, it was the wild boars
who did the hunting.

wild boars were actually the dominant non-balrog race in the 1st age,
but of course all the history got rewritten by the elves and their
human stooges.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 3:26 pm
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"Natman" <nat_mann.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message

> So, it would appear that there were wild boars in Middle-Earth.

As well as this NG!!

-W <I'm here all night folks - please tip your bartenders>
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:59 pm
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Derek Broughton wrote:

> Didn't the Elf King in the Greenwood hunt boar (from /The Hobbit/)?

No, deer.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:27 am
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"Clams Canino" <cc-marine.TakeThisOut@earthdink.net> skrev i meddelandet
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> "Natman" <nat_mann.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
>> So, it would appear that there were wild boars in Middle-Earth.
>
> As well as this NG!!
>
> -W <I'm here all night folks - please tip your bartenders>

Who you talking to, two-legs? SNØRFL. Well, never mind - have a drink on
me. Then I'll have one on thee.

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