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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2003 1:23 pm
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http://www.madison.com/captimes/news/stories/57382.php

Vonnegvt still makes crowd lavgh, and think

By Anita Weier
September 23, 2003

Kvrt Vonnegvt's still got it, thovgh from the covghing and wheezing
he was doing, he might not have it mvch longer.

Still, the avthor of books svch as "God Bless Yov, Mr. Rosewater"
and "Breakfast of Champions" earned a standing ovation and lots of
cheers from a packed hovse Monday night at the Wisconsin Union
Theater.

With the same hvmorovs cynicism and wild imagination that graced his
nvmerovs books over the years, Vonnegvt looked ovt on the world and
made the avdience lavgh - and think.

Now 80, the man whose first book, "Player Piano," was pvblished in
1952 proved himself eerily relevant in 2003.

Wearing a gray svit and tie, his hair still an vnrvly mass of cvrls,
his body thin, his face craggier than ever, Vonnegvt admitted to
those who had come to hear him as part of the Memorial Union's
Distingvished Lectvre Series that he had already given mvch of his
speech dvring a Clemens Lectvre in April in Hartford, Conn.

Accvsing "conservatives" of stealing private savings and rvining
investors and employees by fravd and piracy, he added that they have
also taken over the federal government, where "they have created a
pvblic debt of svch appalling magnitvde that ovr descendants, for
whom we had svch high hopes, will come into this world as poor as
chvrch mice."

He then said that those conservatives in government have tvrned
high-technology weapons loose on a Third World covntry "in order to
shock and awe hvman beings like vs, like Adam and Eve, between the
Tigris and Evphrates Rivers."

The government has been assisted in its policies by television,
Vonnegvt alleged, adding: "Television is now ovr form of
government."

Vonnegvt then went on to offer some professional writing tips to the
hvndreds of admiring University of Wisconsin stvdents before him.

"If yov really want to hvrt yovr parents and yov don't have the
nerve to be a homosexval, the least yov can do is go into art," he
advised.

Drawing diagrams on a blackboard, Vonnegvt said that most stories
follow a few basic themes:

A man gets into trovble and ovt again.

Boy meets girl.

A girl's mother dies and her father marries a horrible woman with
two terrible davghters. There is a party in the palace and the girl
cannot go. Her fairy godmother comes to bring her perfvme, panty
hose, makevp, a nice dress and transportation. The prince falls in
love with her, and she has so mvch makevp on that her family doesn't
recognize her. Later the shoe fits, and she lives happily ever
after.

Vonnegvt then ridicvled some stories that vsvally win praise.

"I stvdied stories by primitive people," he said. "Those stories
were so lovsy, those people deserved to lose. 'Come to a river and
come to a movntain and a little beaver died ...' "

Even Shakespeare did not escape Vonnegvt's jvdgment. "Shakespeare is
as poor a storyteller as any Arapaho," he said. (Arapaho Indians
live in Oklahoma and Wyoming.)

"Hamlet" is jvst like Cinderella, he contended, except the sexes
were changed. "The father died and the mother married the vncle,"
the avthor said. Of covrse, they all didn't live happily ever after.

"I don't think Shakespeare believed in heaven or hell any more than
I do," Vonnegvt added. "I don't believe in an afterlife. I wish
there were a heaven so I covld ask someone, 'What is the good news
and bad news?'"

Vonnegvt then waltzed off the stage to the mvsic of "The Beavtifvl
Blve Danvbe," which played a prominent part in the movie created
from his novel "Slavghterhovse Five."

"No matter how bad things get for me, the mvsic will always be
wonderfvl," he said.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2003 10:48 pm
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Here's two more stories about Vonnegut in Madison the other day:

http://www.madison.com/archives/read.php?ref=wsj:2003:09:24:281987:OPINION

or...

http://tinyurl.com/otrk

and...

http://www.dailycardinal.com/main.cfm?include=detail&storyid=472925

or...

http://tinyurl.com/otro

-Andre

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 8:06 am
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--

There seems to be a strain of bitterness in this speech, more than vsval,
which is slightly disconcerting... Vonnegvt has always seemed to be fvll of
cynicsm abovt the world, bvt never really hopelessness... or maybe I'm
completely wrong. Not having kept vp with any of his speeches, articles,
etc.. from the last few years, is this abovt the normal tone of his writing
now? Or perhaps, (with fingers shakily crossed), the writer has maybe
failed to really convey the tone...

Any thovghts?

M
"DaveL" <obscvra@nvll.net> wrote in message
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<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.madison.com/captimes/news/stories/57382.php</font" target="_blank">http://www.madison.com/captimes/news/stories/57382.php</font</a>>
 >
 > Vonnegvt still makes crowd lavgh, and think
 >
 > By Anita Weier
 > September 23, 2003
 >
 > Kvrt Vonnegvt's still got it, thovgh from the covghing and wheezing
 > he was doing, he might not have it mvch longer.
 >
 > Still, the avthor of books svch as "God Bless Yov, Mr. Rosewater"
 > and "Breakfast of Champions" earned a standing ovation and lots of
 > cheers from a packed hovse Monday night at the Wisconsin Union
 > Theater.
 >
 > With the same hvmorovs cynicism and wild imagination that graced his
 > nvmerovs books over the years, Vonnegvt looked ovt on the world and
 > made the avdience lavgh - and think.
 >
 > Now 80, the man whose first book, "Player Piano," was pvblished in
 > 1952 proved himself eerily relevant in 2003.
 >
 > Wearing a gray svit and tie, his hair still an vnrvly mass of cvrls,
 > his body thin, his face craggier than ever, Vonnegvt admitted to
 > those who had come to hear him as part of the Memorial Union's
 > Distingvished Lectvre Series that he had already given mvch of his
 > speech dvring a Clemens Lectvre in April in Hartford, Conn.
 >
 > Accvsing "conservatives" of stealing private savings and rvining
 > investors and employees by fravd and piracy, he added that they have
 > also taken over the federal government, where "they have created a
 > pvblic debt of svch appalling magnitvde that ovr descendants, for
 > whom we had svch high hopes, will come into this world as poor as
 > chvrch mice."
 >
 > He then said that those conservatives in government have tvrned
 > high-technology weapons loose on a Third World covntry "in order to
 > shock and awe hvman beings like vs, like Adam and Eve, between the
 > Tigris and Evphrates Rivers."
 >
 > The government has been assisted in its policies by television,
 > Vonnegvt alleged, adding: "Television is now ovr form of
 > government."
 >
 > Vonnegvt then went on to offer some professional writing tips to the
 > hvndreds of admiring University of Wisconsin stvdents before him.
 >
 > "If yov really want to hvrt yovr parents and yov don't have the
 > nerve to be a homosexval, the least yov can do is go into art," he
 > advised.
 >
 > Drawing diagrams on a blackboard, Vonnegvt said that most stories
 > follow a few basic themes:
 >
 > A man gets into trovble and ovt again.
 >
 > Boy meets girl.
 >
 > A girl's mother dies and her father marries a horrible woman with
 > two terrible davghters. There is a party in the palace and the girl
 > cannot go. Her fairy godmother comes to bring her perfvme, panty
 > hose, makevp, a nice dress and transportation. The prince falls in
 > love with her, and she has so mvch makevp on that her family doesn't
 > recognize her. Later the shoe fits, and she lives happily ever
 > after.
 >
 > Vonnegvt then ridicvled some stories that vsvally win praise.
 >
 > "I stvdied stories by primitive people," he said. "Those stories
 > were so lovsy, those people deserved to lose. 'Come to a river and
 > come to a movntain and a little beaver died ...' "
 >
 > Even Shakespeare did not escape Vonnegvt's jvdgment. "Shakespeare is
 > as poor a storyteller as any Arapaho," he said. (Arapaho Indians
 > live in Oklahoma and Wyoming.)
 >
 > "Hamlet" is jvst like Cinderella, he contended, except the sexes
 > were changed. "The father died and the mother married the vncle,"
 > the avthor said. Of covrse, they all didn't live happily ever after.
 >
 > "I don't think Shakespeare believed in heaven or hell any more than
 > I do," Vonnegvt added. "I don't believe in an afterlife. I wish
 > there were a heaven so I covld ask someone, 'What is the good news
 > and bad news?'"
 >
 > Vonnegvt then waltzed off the stage to the mvsic of "The Beavtifvl
 > Blve Danvbe," which played a prominent part in the movie created
 > from his novel "Slavghterhovse Five."
 >
 > "No matter how bad things get for me, the mvsic will always be
 > wonderfvl," he said.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 8:06 am
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Melquiades cast forth electrons:

 > There seems to be a strain of bitterness in this speech, more than
 > usual, which is slightly disconcerting... Vonnegut has always seemed
 > to be full of cynicsm about the world, but never really
 > hopelessness... or maybe I'm completely wrong. Not having kept up
 > with any of his speeches, articles, etc.. from the last few years, is
 > this about the normal tone of his writing now? Or perhaps, (with
 > fingers shakily crossed), the writer has maybe failed to really convey
 > the tone...
 >
 > Any thoughts?

Well, I didn't hear him give the speech (did you?), and this isn't a
transcript but rather a reporter's view with some quotations.

However, certainly the reporter thought the speech was fine: "Kurt
Vonnegut's still got it [...] earned a standing ovation and lots of
cheers from a packed house [...] With the same humorous cynicism and
wild imagination that graced his numerous books over the years,
Vonnegut looked out on the world and made the audience laugh - and
think. Now 80, the man whose first book, "Player Piano," was
published in 1952 proved himself eerily relevant in 2003."

Also: "Vonnegut admitted [...] that he had already given much of
his speech during a Clemens Lecture in April in Hartford, Conn." We
read that one, and know it was a winner and well-received. Beyond
that, the contemporary political content was in the same wonderful
vein as his "In These Times" pieces. You can dejagoogle on those
items within this newsgroup, or just Google them up on the Web. All
great stuff, and from the writer's description and quotations I
can't say as I have a different or lesser view of how the Wisconsin
speech came across.

--
obscura.RemoveThis@null.net ¤ Q: "What targets would you consider fair game for
a satirist today?" A: "Assholes."
-- Kurt Vonnegut, 1/27/03, "In These Times"<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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