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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 8:54 pm
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Hint: She and her husband were known for their twelve children.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W39QHzD67eo

What puzzles me is not so much that in the 1954 car ad, there's no
sign of seat belts, but rather that in that case, Bette Davis' famous
line in the 1950 "All About Eve" would seem almost alien, if they were
so uncommon!

Lenona.

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Wow, Lenona, thanks for posting this! I was unaware of it! Since it
came out after the book, there was no mention of it in that. Read the
book, saw the flick, even checked out the issue of LIFE magazine from
the library. (This was back when libraries kept paper magazines for
20 or 30 years.) Understand there's a sequel which I have not read,
updating the family some thirty years or so after the original.

The Reverend must have spoken at the church I attend, or someone
associated with it was at a church where he spoke, as the church
library for a long time had a copy of the book he had autographed.
Like the magazine, that has since disappeared. How wonderful for the
children to have this film as a keepsake of their parents, even if
they did seem a bit nervous, they came through fine.

Being no expert, merely an old-timer, seatbelts did not become
standard in cars until the 1960s if not the 1970s. The "Fasten your
seatbelts, we're in for a bumpy ride" is an airplane reference which
would be familiar to those who had flown in planes and not necessarily
associated with cars. The automobile manufacturers were aware of
their existence and uses, just too damn cheap to put them in until
pressured to do so.

My dad lulled us into a false sense of security as kids in his 1959
State Patrol car, of which he was very proud, often giving this big
explanation of how his older-style car was so large and solid it would
not be damaged even in a major crash. What I had to learn in Driver's
Ed was that although the car might not sustain much damage, the
unbelted occupants would be so thrown about even in a minor crash that
they'd be scrambled. The windshield and metal dash (originally
padded, but that was removed) would do them no good. Neither would
the bench-style seats coming up to the upper back with no head
support. Dad called the more modern, less solid cars "tin cans," but
give me a tin can with good strong seatbelts, I say! The parents who
raised our generation were not used to the belts. One mother who
drove us in the mid-1960s would say, "If you don't like the belt, just
fasten it behind you," and we would. I didn't wear one till at least
college or later. Didn't even learn my lesson during one comical
incident in high school. I was sitting in the front seat of a van my
friend was driving, looking at my library books, when my friend
slammed on the brakes at a stoplight. I ended up unhurt, but sitting
on the floor in front of the seat, surrounded by scattered library
books, looking up from under the dash with an expression of "WHY did
you do that?" My sister nearly wet her pants laughing.

What bugs me no end now is, in my favorite TV show, "Emergency!" (now
available to a new generation as it's in process of being released on
DVD) the paramedics NEVER wore seatbelts--I don't believe the squad
even had them. (I think the same can be observed in "Adam-12," though
they may have worn seatbelts a few times.) In fact, Kevin Tighe
sustained quite a gash to his head once when Randy Mantooth was
driving the squad and plowed it into a wall. Imagine paramedics
rushing to the scene of an accident being unable to help because they
were mangled in a crash on the way there! And what a good example
they could have set to millions of kids had they been shown buckling
up every time. At least they wore the dang helmets.

Cori

On Mar 29, 8:54 pm, lenona....RemoveThis@yahoo.com wrote:
> Hint: She and her husband were known for their twelve children.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W39QHzD67eo
>
> What puzzles me is not so much that in the 1954 car ad, there's no
> sign of seat belts, but rather that in that case, Bette Davis' famous
> line in the 1950 "All About Eve" would seem almost alien, if they were
> so uncommon!
>
> Lenona.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 9:01 am
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Cori <cmashieldscapting DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:

> Being no expert, merely an old-timer, seatbelts did not become
> standard in cars until the 1960s if not the 1970s. The "Fasten your
> seatbelts, we're in for a bumpy ride" is an airplane reference which
> would be familiar to those who had flown in planes and not necessarily
> associated with cars. The automobile manufacturers were aware of
> their existence and uses, just too damn cheap to put them in until
> pressured to do so.

We were stopped in 1961 for some minor traffic thing and we had put seat
belts in our car and were wearing them, but the policeman just said, do
you wear your seat belts? Good! There was no law saying you had to.

Our 1954 car had no seat belts.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:20 am
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On Mar 30, 3:59 am, Cori <cmashieldscapt....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Understand there's a sequel which I have not read,
> updating the family some thirty years or so after the original.

Well, it's not a sequel - it's merely a recent edition with an
epilogue by Helen and an introduction by a Wheelock College humanities
professor. See here.

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.books.childrens/browse_thread/...ead/8e9

From what I understand, despite conflicting reports of dates, Carl and
Helen divorced in 1964 (sadly, it's not too surprising, when you read
the book) and he died of cancer in the 1990s.

Here's an interesting, shall we say, review of the book from a
different perspective:

http://tradreviews2.blogspot.com/2007/03/family-nobody-wanted.html

"The Rad Trad Review"
"Engaging the culture with an examination of movies and books from a
Traditional Catholic Perspective"

"Written from the wife of a protestant minister's perspective, there
is nothing about Catholicism in the book. However, the open hearts and
generosity of the minister and his wife, in adopting 12 children from
many different ethnic groups, gives a very good example regardless of
religion, and is well worth the read.
Excellence: 2 stars"

(Let's just say the reviewer has no sympathy for Carl and even makes
mean remarks about his choosing to become a Methodist minister.)

In 1956, TV's Playhouse 90 had an episode about them!

http://www.tv.com/playhouse-90/the-family-nobody-wanted/episode/205081...mmary.h

Lew Ayres played Carl and Nanette Fabray played Helen.

You can see photos of ALL the kids here, with the Reader's Digest(?)
article by Helen:

http://www.uoregon.edu/~adoption/archive/DossOIF.htm

I was browsing in a huge used-books store in San Francisco's
Tenderloin district some years ago and found a copy of Helen's short
hardcover "The Really Real Family" which is full of photos and is
mainly about Laura's and Elaine's rivalry.

(I'm still kicking myself for not also buying the first edition of
"Cricket," which was on the shelf and included an introduction by
Charles Schulz!)


> Being no expert, merely an old-timer, seatbelts did not become
> standard in cars until the 1960s if not the 1970s.  The "Fasten your
> seatbelts, we're in for a bumpy ride" is an airplane reference which
> would be familiar to those who had flown in planes and not necessarily
> associated with cars.  
> Cori

I thought of that, but would most people at that time know that
airplanes included seatbelts, since air travel was still something
that mostly rich people did?

I remember that my friends and I were allowed to ride unbuckled behind
the back seats of station wagons. Nowadays, of course, you'd be likely
to be pulled over for that.

Lenona.
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> I remember that my friends and I were allowed to ride unbuckled behind
> the back seats of station wagons. Nowadays, of course, you'd be likely
> to be pulled over for that.
>
> Lenona.

It's amazing the father in this fatal crash
http://www.spokesmanreview.com/breaking/story.asp?ID=14116 was not
blamed or charged. Although the other driver caused the crash, it was
reported that none of the children were restrained, despite a state
seat belt law. Some years ago, a little girl in the same state was
killed in a crash. Her father explained she was lying down in the car
because she was sick. The judge said the law says you have to buckle
every child in "even if they fight, kick, and scream," and charged
him, although only one child died. In this case, five children died
and no charges.

Cori
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<lenona321 RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Hint: She and her husband were known for their twelve children.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W39QHzD67eo
>
> What puzzles me is not so much that in the 1954 car ad, there's no
> sign of seat belts, but rather that in that case, Bette Davis' famous
> line in the 1950 "All About Eve" would seem almost alien, if they were
> so uncommon!
>
> Lenona.

"Fasten your seat belts - it's going to be a bumpy ride"

Bette was quoting a pilot (and seat belts were common in
aircraft at that time). But....they were not common, required,
or standard in vehicles for many years. Saab was the first
to put them in all of their cars, in 1958. When I bought my
Mustang in 1965, I was told that it had the "optional" seat
belts.

As for the Doss family:
I worked with one of the Doss children (Alex, the youngest or
close to it) when I was a civilian employee and he was in the
Air Force. Nice kid, but *very* self-important (I liked him, tho).
The TV movie came out about that time, and I remember
him saying that "all I am, is the one in the high chair".

Kris
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> "Fasten your seat belts - it's going to be a bumpy ride"
>
> Bette was quoting a pilot (and seat belts were common in
> aircraft at that time). But....they were not common, required,
> or standard in vehicles for many years. Saab was the first
> to put them in all of their cars, in 1958. When I bought my
> Mustang in 1965, I was told that it had the "optional" seat
> belts.
(snip)
> Kris

The child seats of the day were incredibly useless, too. Like high-chairs,
more than anything, with a skinny plastic strap to belt the little ones in.
We still have our 1966 Mustang convertible, even though I learned to fly
when I glanced back and discovered the baby was trying to crawl onto the
trunk. At 60 mph. I don't remember if I was using the seat belts or not,
but they didn't hold me back.
kat >^.^<
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Yeah, she's fine. Maybe that's why she's a fireman. Danger and derring-do.
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"kat >^.^<" <tromp.RemoveThis@charter.com> wrote in message
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> "Kris Baker" <kris.baker.RemoveThis@prodigy.net> wrote in message
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>> "Fasten your seat belts - it's going to be a bumpy ride"
>>
>> Bette was quoting a pilot (and seat belts were common in
>> aircraft at that time). But....they were not common, required,
>> or standard in vehicles for many years. Saab was the first
>> to put them in all of their cars, in 1958. When I bought my
>> Mustang in 1965, I was told that it had the "optional" seat
>> belts.
> (snip)
>> Kris
>
> The child seats of the day were incredibly useless, too. Like high-chairs,
> more than anything, with a skinny plastic strap to belt the little ones
> in. We still have our 1966 Mustang convertible, even though I learned to
> fly when I glanced back and discovered the baby was trying to crawl onto
> the trunk. At 60 mph. I don't remember if I was using the seat belts or
> not, but they didn't hold me back.
> kat >^.^<
> in Rhinelander
> Yeah, she's fine. Maybe that's why she's a fireman. Danger and
> derring-do.

I used one of those plastic baby carriers to hold my baby in
the Mustang, and strapped the belts around it. It actually
worked quite nicely (I should have taken a picture).

I still have my '65 Mustang. It's been restored twice, and
is sitting in the garage, bored, waiting for another restoration.

Kris
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> "kat >^.^<" <tromp.DeleteThis@charter.com> wrote in message
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>> "Kris Baker" <kris.baker.DeleteThis@prodigy.net> wrote in message
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>>> "Fasten your seat belts - it's going to be a bumpy ride"
>>>
>>> Bette was quoting a pilot (and seat belts were common in
>>> aircraft at that time). But....they were not common, required,
>>> or standard in vehicles for many years. Saab was the first
>>> to put them in all of their cars, in 1958. When I bought my
>>> Mustang in 1965, I was told that it had the "optional" seat
>>> belts.
>> (snip)
>>> Kris
>>
>> The child seats of the day were incredibly useless, too. Like
>> high-chairs, more than anything, with a skinny plastic strap to belt the
>> little ones in. We still have our 1966 Mustang convertible, even though I
>> learned to fly when I glanced back and discovered the baby was trying to
>> crawl onto the trunk. At 60 mph. I don't remember if I was using the
>> seat belts or not, but they didn't hold me back.
>> kat >^.^<
>> in Rhinelander
>> Yeah, she's fine. Maybe that's why she's a fireman. Danger and
>> derring-do.
>
> I used one of those plastic baby carriers to hold my baby in
> the Mustang, and strapped the belts around it. It actually
> worked quite nicely (I should have taken a picture).
>
> I still have my '65 Mustang. It's been restored twice, and
> is sitting in the garage, bored, waiting for another restoration.
>
> Kris

We'd used the plastic baby carrier when the Daughter was little, and they
did relatively fine--I think she was about a year old when she wriggled out
of this one (a gift or hand-me-down--whichever). Think Maggie Simpson
honking her little horn in the introduction of the cartoon. Odd, I can't
remember what we did to secure her after that. They may have been coming out
with more secure styles in 1977, but we'd never seen one (when Boy came in
1980, we did get a contemporary-styled carrier). So glad for you that you
kept the car. We had several hard-topped Mustangs in the between-times,
when this one wasn't road-worthy but we couldn't afford to get her fixed.
Now she gets out a few times a summer--car shows and ice-cream runs, mostly.
The insurance company frowns on taking classic vehicles to work (parking
lots are notorious for dings and thefts), so she sits and rebukes us daily
for making her stay in her shed. There's a bit of Chitty-Chitty-Bang-Bang
(hah! on topic!) about her.
So if she's running, take her for a ride this summer. She still looks good
at 50 mph...
kat >^.^<
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