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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 1:26 am
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I have read about several instances where a person wanted to assemble a large
library, and contacted a bookseller to accomplish this on their behalf. Most
recently, I read an account in Mondlin and Meador's "Book Row" where Steven
Spielburg requested that the Strand Bookstore in New York put together a 4,000
book library on a budget of $30,000.
I am curious as to what kind of editions end up in these libraries. I would
imagine that there would be some first editions, and probably no Modern Library
or their ilk. Can anyone shed some light on this? Understanding that different
book sellers would respond in different ways (and assuming the buyer did not
designate "only firsts"), would we be looking at later editions by the same
publisher, reprints by other publishers, a combination of the two, or some
options I haven't considered?
Les

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 1:26 am
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On 27 Apr 2004 22:26:14 GMT, bookeditions.DeleteThis@aol.com (BookEditions)
declared:

 >I have read about several instances where a person wanted to assemble a large
 >library, and contacted a bookseller to accomplish this on their behalf. Most
 >recently, I read an account in Mondlin and Meador's "Book Row" where Steven
 >Spielburg requested that the Strand Bookstore in New York put together a 4,000
 >book library on a budget of $30,000.
 >I am curious as to what kind of editions end up in these libraries. I would
 >imagine that there would be some first editions, and probably no Modern Library
 >or their ilk. Can anyone shed some light on this? Understanding that different
 >book sellers would respond in different ways (and assuming the buyer did not
 >designate "only firsts"), would we be looking at later editions by the same
 >publisher, reprints by other publishers, a combination of the two, or some
 >options I haven't considered?
 >Les

it would all depend on what the person wanted. for the example above,
he's not going to get anything very collectible at an average cost of
$7.50 a book.


Robert

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 2:44 am
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"BookEditions" <bookeditions.RemoveThis@aol.com> wrote in message
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 > I am curious as to what kind of editions end up in these libraries. I
would
 > imagine that there would be some first editions, and probably no Modern
Library
 > or their ilk. Can anyone shed some light on this? Understanding that
different
 > book sellers would respond in different ways (and assuming the buyer did
not
 > designate "only firsts"), would we be looking at later editions by the
same
 > publisher, reprints by other publishers, a combination of the two, or some
 > options I haven't considered?



It all depends on what you want to collect. Allan Stypek of Second Story
Books often talks about the great possibility of assembling a phenomenal
library of classic American and English literature in 19/c and 20/c leather
bindings for something on the order of $10-$15 per volume. Of course, he's
not talking about first editions. I'm convinced, though, that it is
possible to collect on a budget. You simply have to substitute time and
know-how for money. If you're patient, you'll find things for your
collection or things you can sell or trade up for things for your
collection. The real trick to collecting, though, particularly on a budget,
is to focus on a specialty that hasn't really been explored or exploited
before. That's the "taste" part of John Carter's famous "Taste and
Technique in Book Collecting".


William M. Klimon
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 9:40 am
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 > William M. Klimon:
I'm convinced, though, that it is
 > possible to collect on a budget. You simply have to substitute time and
 > know-how for money. If you're patient, you'll find things for your
 > collection or things you can sell or trade up for things for your
 > collection.

Other than special occaisions such as birthday's and christmas, my
collection has been built using only my Satrurday wages, and proceeds from
selling other books Ive picked up.

At £25 a week I feel I have done pretty well in assembling a collectio
containing some scarce and hard to find volumes, often on sought after
topics such as Middle Eastern Travel, C20th Literature in 1st Edition
etc...but, its hard work and takes alot of time to find those items within
my budget....

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 11:25 am
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On 27 Apr 2004 22:26:14 GMT, bookeditions.TakeThisOut@aol.com (BookEditions)
wrote:

 >I have read about several instances where a person wanted to assemble a large
 >library, and contacted a bookseller to accomplish this on their behalf. Most
 >recently, I read an account in Mondlin and Meador's "Book Row" where Steven
 >Spielburg requested that the Strand Bookstore in New York put together a 4,000
 >book library on a budget of $30,000.
 >I am curious as to what kind of editions end up in these libraries. I would
 >imagine that there would be some first editions, and probably no Modern Library
 >or their ilk. Can anyone shed some light on this? Understanding that different
 >book sellers would respond in different ways (and assuming the buyer did not
 >designate "only firsts"), would we be looking at later editions by the same
 >publisher, reprints by other publishers, a combination of the two, or some
 >options I haven't considered?
 >Les

This approach to collecting strikes me like what I observed once at
Old Moneterray Books where and order was being filled for x number of
feet on different color dust jackets.

There is no imprimatur of the collector on such an assemblage of books
(I will not honor it by calling it a collection). It lacks the
passion and stamp of the individual which to me is the hallmark of a
true "collection".

Some one who would simple tell another person to go get a bunch of
books, strikes me as the kind of person who would send another to
preform the groom's duties on his wedding night.


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bad thing to write them, but in any case, it is a
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 7:38 pm
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 >Some one who would simple tell another person to go get a bunch of
 >books, strikes me as the kind of person who would send another to
 >preform the groom's duties on his wedding night.

True...both the "collector" and the groom don't care what happens between the
covers....

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 8:03 am
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"Tom L-M" <sabran DeleteThis @lintern-mole.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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  > > William M. Klimon:
 > I'm convinced, though, that it is
  > > possible to collect on a budget. You simply have to substitute time and
  > > know-how for money. If you're patient, you'll find things for your
  > > collection or things you can sell or trade up for things for your
  > > collection.
 >
 > Other than special occaisions such as birthday's and christmas, my
 > collection has been built using only my Satrurday wages, and proceeds from
 > selling other books Ive picked up.
 >
 > At £25 a week I feel I have done pretty well in assembling a collectio
 > containing some scarce and hard to find volumes, often on sought after
 > topics such as Middle Eastern Travel, C20th Literature in 1st Edition
 > etc...but, its hard work and takes alot of time to find those items within
 > my budget....

The thing is, it is really a hobby. If it takes a lot of time, as
you say, well, stamp collecting and bird watching. can take
up a lot of time too. In addition to acquiring books suitable
to your tastes, you are having the fun, the thrill of the chase,
whatever, of putting your collection together. Most important,
it is your library, with the books which interest you.

Actually, the idea of simply paying a large sum of money
and having someone put together a library for someone
else with buckets of money strikes me as rather pathetic. It
suggests that the person purchasing the library does not
really read too much and will probably never read more
than a very small fraction of the books purchased. It is
more of a way to acqure a veneer of culture and impress
visitors to one's mansion than anything else.

Furthermore, 4,000 books isn't REALLY that
many books, unless they are the right books, and
what might be the right books for one person could
be the wrong books for someone else. I have
browsed bookstores with more books than that
and have had a difficult time finding even one
book that I wanted.

It should be stressed that I am not talking about a book
collector who purchases an entire library because he or
she is very familar with the contents. Our former
mayor of Los Angeles purchased an entire library
from a small liberal arts college which was closing.
I believe the sale was reported to involve over 20,000
books. However, that was a perfectly rational and
sincere thing to do, because the mayor was well aware
of the contents and had the room to house the books.

Rather than cases like that, I am referring to someone
who pays a book dealer a large sum to have the book
dealer build the library for them. That strikes me as
shallow.

Also, I am not sure this matter has been reported
correctly, because $7.50 a book sounds suspiciously low
for what you might expect to find in a billionaire's library.
Don't expect too many Folio Society and Heritage
editions. Instead, it sounds like a great way for a
bookseller to unload a few boxes of those "skivers"
which have been gathering dust for years if not for
decades. Also, in the late Nineteenth and early
Twentieth centuries various publishers--Hearst,
World, and many others--came out with vast numbers
of cheap editions of books which had been classics
for decades, if not for generations already. For $7.50
a book, you would almost have to anticipate a lot of that
sort of thing. The only first editions you could expect
are first editions of books most people don't want to
read in the first place.

What I am suggesting is that while many
serious collectors could build a respectable library
for an average of $7.50, essentially through their own
efforts in scouting bargain tables, public library sales,
etc., the price sounds extremely low for someone who
was trusting a bookseller to do all the work--and no
genuine book lover would do that in the first place.

(Since a movie director was mentioned, let us
charitably assume that misreporting was involved
and the books were meant to be props in an
upcoming film.)


Mr. Palmer
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 > Cheers,
 >
 > Tom Lintern-Mole
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