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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 11:38 pm
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Gloucester library awarded stolen books
Woman admitted stealing books from Wal-Mart; 10,000 hardbacks will be
donated
BY MATHEW PAUST
Daily Press
October 24, 2005, 3:43 PM EDT
GLOUCESTER -- Gloucester County's new public library found new meaning in
the term "bargain basement" today.
In a Circuit Court plea bargain, the library won ownership of some 10,000
books, many of them probably stolen.
Mary Ann Drake, 61, agreed to give to the library all of the hard-bound
books police seized from her home in an April raid after she was caught
stealing 120 new books -- valued at a total of nearly $700 -- from the
Wal-Mart Super Center in Gloucester.
Speaking in a soft voice, at times almost whispering, Drake pleaded guilty
to the grand larceny charge, admitting to Judge William H. Shaw III that she
had in fact stolen the books from Wal-Mart.
Shaw then told her that he would suspend a verdict in the case for two
years, during which time Drake would remain on supervised probation, pay all
court costs and not set foot in the Gloucester Wal-Mart.
Assistant Commonwealth's Attorney Monique Watson, who prosecuted Drake,
noted that about half the 19,347 books taken from Drake's home in April were
hard-bound copies, and that the rest were paperbacks. The library would get
only the hard-bound books, Watson said.
There was no testimony in the brief proceedings. Drake merely shook her head
when asked if she wanted to speak before the judge pronounced the sentence. |
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 11:38 pm
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Wal Mart can afford to lose a few books
"Nobody" <nobody.DeleteThis@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> Gloucester library awarded stolen books
> Woman admitted stealing books from Wal-Mart; 10,000 hardbacks will be
> donated
>
> BY MATHEW PAUST
> Daily Press
> October 24, 2005, 3:43 PM EDT
> GLOUCESTER -- Gloucester County's new public library found new meaning in
> the term "bargain basement" today.
>
> In a Circuit Court plea bargain, the library won ownership of some 10,000
> books, many of them probably stolen.
>
> Mary Ann Drake, 61, agreed to give to the library all of the hard-bound
> books police seized from her home in an April raid after she was caught
> stealing 120 new books -- valued at a total of nearly $700 -- from the
> Wal-Mart Super Center in Gloucester.
>
> Speaking in a soft voice, at times almost whispering, Drake pleaded guilty
> to the grand larceny charge, admitting to Judge William H. Shaw III that
she
> had in fact stolen the books from Wal-Mart.
>
> Shaw then told her that he would suspend a verdict in the case for two
> years, during which time Drake would remain on supervised probation, pay
all
> court costs and not set foot in the Gloucester Wal-Mart.
>
> Assistant Commonwealth's Attorney Monique Watson, who prosecuted Drake,
> noted that about half the 19,347 books taken from Drake's home in April
were
> hard-bound copies, and that the rest were paperbacks. The library would
get
> only the hard-bound books, Watson said.
>
> There was no testimony in the brief proceedings. Drake merely shook her
head
> when asked if she wanted to speak before the judge pronounced the
sentence.
>
> |
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 11:38 pm
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On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 20:48:36 -0700, in rec.collecting.books you wrote:
>Wal Mart can afford to lose a few books
>
Oh jeez, now we have a moral relativist in the house. Yale can afford
to lose a few maps, so we just decide what the punishment should be
based on what the victim can afford.
If walmart had anything worth stealing, maybe I'd join the party. But
since admittedly their target demographic is a family making 30k, that
leaves me out. I actually went to a walmart once, didn't see anything
worth buying or stealing.
I actually found it distasteful that the books were given to the
library, rather than being returned to the source.
And how does a person carry a hundred books out of a walmart anyway?
Denton
On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 20:48:36 -0700, "Lon Smith" <blurpgleep.DeleteThis@roaky.com>
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 11:33 am
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Nobody wrote:
>Gloucester library awarded stolen books
>Woman admitted stealing books from Wal-Mart; 10,000 hardbacks will be
>donated
>
>BY MATHEW PAUST
>Daily Press
>October 24, 2005, 3:43 PM EDT
>GLOUCESTER -- Gloucester County's new public library found new meaning in
>the term "bargain basement" today.
>
>In a Circuit Court plea bargain, the library won ownership of some 10,000
>books, many of them probably stolen.
>
>Mary Ann Drake, 61, agreed to give to the library all of the hard-bound
>books police seized from her home in an April raid after she was caught
>stealing 120 new books -- valued at a total of nearly $700 -- from the
>Wal-Mart Super Center in Gloucester.
>
>Speaking in a soft voice, at times almost whispering, Drake pleaded guilty
>to the grand larceny charge, admitting to Judge William H. Shaw III that she
>had in fact stolen the books from Wal-Mart.
>
>Shaw then told her that he would suspend a verdict in the case for two
>years, during which time Drake would remain on supervised probation, pay all
>court costs and not set foot in the Gloucester Wal-Mart.
>
>Assistant Commonwealth's Attorney Monique Watson, who prosecuted Drake,
>noted that about half the 19,347 books taken from Drake's home in April were
>hard-bound copies, and that the rest were paperbacks. The library would get
>only the hard-bound books, Watson said.
>
>There was no testimony in the brief proceedings. Drake merely shook her head
>when asked if she wanted to speak before the judge pronounced the sentence.
>
>
>
>
This is at least confusing and possibly disturbing. She was caught
stealing 120 books. Those were the property of Wal-Mart and should go
back to it. They then presumably used this theft as probably cause to
get a warrant to see if there were other stolen books. They find 19,347
books. The first question, unanswered in the text above, is why they
concluded the books were all stolen books. The second question, which
may be related to the first, is why, if they concluded the books were
stolen, they did not conclude they were the property of Wal-Mart and
return them to the company (as the whole focus seems to be on Wal-Mart
as her victim of choice)? Third, if Wal-Mart had the property interest
in the stolen books, how did anyone have legal authority to donate them
to the library?
Francis A. Miniter >> Stay informed about: Another book thief |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 6:37 pm
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"Francis A. Miniter" <miniter RemoveThis @attglobalZZ.net> wrote in message
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> Nobody wrote:
>
> >Gloucester library awarded stolen books
> >Woman admitted stealing books from Wal-Mart; 10,000 hardbacks will be
> >donated
> >
> >BY MATHEW PAUST
> >Daily Press
> >October 24, 2005, 3:43 PM EDT
> >GLOUCESTER -- Gloucester County's new public library found new meaning in
> >the term "bargain basement" today.
> >
> >In a Circuit Court plea bargain, the library won ownership of some 10,000
> >books, many of them probably stolen.
> >
> >Mary Ann Drake, 61, agreed to give to the library all of the hard-bound
> >books police seized from her home in an April raid after she was caught
> >stealing 120 new books -- valued at a total of nearly $700 -- from the
> >Wal-Mart Super Center in Gloucester.
> >
> >Speaking in a soft voice, at times almost whispering, Drake pleaded
guilty
> >to the grand larceny charge, admitting to Judge William H. Shaw III that
she
> >had in fact stolen the books from Wal-Mart.
> >
> >Shaw then told her that he would suspend a verdict in the case for two
> >years, during which time Drake would remain on supervised probation, pay
all
> >court costs and not set foot in the Gloucester Wal-Mart.
> >
> >Assistant Commonwealth's Attorney Monique Watson, who prosecuted Drake,
> >noted that about half the 19,347 books taken from Drake's home in April
were
> >hard-bound copies, and that the rest were paperbacks. The library would
get
> >only the hard-bound books, Watson said.
> >
> >There was no testimony in the brief proceedings. Drake merely shook her
head
> >when asked if she wanted to speak before the judge pronounced the
sentence.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> This is at least confusing and possibly disturbing. She was caught
> stealing 120 books. Those were the property of Wal-Mart and should go
> back to it. They then presumably used this theft as probably cause to
> get a warrant to see if there were other stolen books. They find 19,347
> books. The first question, unanswered in the text above, is why they
> concluded the books were all stolen books. The second question, which
> may be related to the first, is why, if they concluded the books were
> stolen, they did not conclude they were the property of Wal-Mart and
> return them to the company (as the whole focus seems to be on Wal-Mart
> as her victim of choice)? Third, if Wal-Mart had the property interest
> in the stolen books, how did anyone have legal authority to donate them
> to the library?
>
>
> Francis A. Miniter
I think the general consensus probably was that the defendant was an
eccentric at best - if only by virtue of the fact that its unlikely
she paid for all 19,347 books found in her house, unlike a "normal"
book-collector. And so presumably she consented to donate the hardbacks,
whatever their actual origin, possibly as a component of plea bargaining.
This being the best outcome all round. Walmart, and their insurers, are
probably geared to books arriving by the 100, in boxes on the backs
of trucks and have probably already written off the loss. Otherwise
they might need to hire knowledgeable staff to sort through any
returns which might end up costing more than the value of the books.
This way Wal Mart get some free publicity out of it. If only by virtue
of the fact that many people probably never realised Walmart stocked that
many books in the first place. Not that the 19,347 books didn't contain
numerous multiple copies presumably. 985 Harry Potters anyone?
michael adams
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 12:20 am
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On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 21:01:15 -0400, Denton Taylor <denton.TakeThisOut@speakeasy.net>
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>I actually found it distasteful that the books were given to the
>library, rather than being returned to the source.
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