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alejandro de tacobell

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 11:09 pm
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let's best TIME's list of best english language lit of 20th century.
we'll allow books from 1900 to 2005

list 25 english novels you think of highly as either great lit or
personal fav.


(in no particular order)
old man and the sea
libra
those barren leaves
eyeless in gaza
the call
point counter point
great gatsby
when she was good
naked and the dead(didn't finish)
ravelstein
portnoy's cumplaint
light in august
1984
clockwork orange
cannery row
babbitt
deliverance
fortunate pilgrim
sicilian
crome yellow
shane
one flew over cuckoo's nest
go tell it on the mountain
fountainhead(didn't finish)
portrait of a lady



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20 non-english novels(no time range).
all read in translation.
(in no particular order)

castle
trial
crime and punishment
idiot
with fire and sword
narcissus and goldmund
spring snow
runaway horses
temple of dawn
decay of the angel
buddenbrooks(didn't finish)
samurai (endo)
solaris
germinal
war and peace
the leopard
by the open sea
dark night's passing (didn't finish)
the stranger
ruined map

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delcolja1

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 6:37 am
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Lucas Hyde wrote:
> Please read my novel 'Hypnosis'. It is general fiction of high quality.
>

No it isn't. It's vanity press hackwork, prolix, leaden and
unimaginative.
>
> There is a free full preview.


The preview isn't free; it wastes a reader's time.


J. Del Col

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kathypig1

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 6:41 am
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The Rainbow
A Death in the Family
In Cold Blood
The Dollmaker
An American Tragedy
Angle of Repose
Recapitulation
Roxanna Slade
The Grapes of Wrath
Call of the Wild
My Antonia
The Barefoot Man
Imperial Woman
Most of the rest of my favorites are from 18th and 19th century so I
don't have a lot more 20th century.
Non-English (all read in translation)
The Kite Runner
Shadow of the Wind
Anna Karenina
Don Quixote
Les Miserables
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 7:06 am
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"alejandro de tacobell" <cerebureaucracy.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> let's best TIME's list of best english language lit of 20th century.
> we'll allow books from 1900 to 2005


WILL IN THE WORLD is a brilliant read.

dave
www.Shemakhan.com
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Bip Bop

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 8:03 am
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miniter1

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 9:25 am
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alejandro de tacobell wrote:

>let's best TIME's list of best english language lit of 20th century.
>we'll allow books from 1900 to 2005
>
>list 25 english novels you think of highly as either great lit or
>personal fav.
><snip>
>

Margaret Atwood, The Blind Assassin
A. S. Byatt, Possession
John Fowles, A Maggot
James Joyce, Ulysses
Pete Dexter, Paris Trout
Tim O'Brien, The Things They Carried
Kurt Vonnegut, Slaughter House Five
John LeCarre, The Spy Who Came In From the Cold
Ayn Rand, The Fountainhead
John Mortimer, Paradise Postponed
Kazuo Ishiguro, The Remains of the Day
J. R. R. Tolkien, The Lord of the Rings
Isaac Azimov, Foundation trilogy
James Herbert, Dune trilogy
Josephine Tey, The Daughter of TIme
Agatha Christie, The Murder of Roger Ackroyd
Robertson Davies, The Deptford Trilogy
Michael Ondaatje, The English Patient
F. Scott Fitzgerald, The Great Gatsby
George Orwell, 1984
Peter Matthiesson, At Play in the Fields of the Lord
James Clavell, King Rat
J .D. Salinger, The Catcher in the Rye
Hemingway, For Whom the Bell Tolls
Joseph Heller, Catch - 22


Francis A. Miniter
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Your Pal Brian

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 9:55 am
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alejandro de tacobell wrote:

> let's best TIME's list of best english language lit of 20th century.
> we'll allow books from 1900 to 2005

The best books of the 20th century, Gaza, are The Effective Executive by
Peter Drucker, Is Sex Necessary by EB White and James Thurber, and How
To Lie With Statistics by Darrell Huff. The latter two have cartoons.


> naked and the dead(didn't finish)
> fountainhead(didn't finish)
> buddenbrooks(didn't finish)
> dark night's passing (didn't finish)

Hmmm.

Brian
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Rich

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 7:28 pm
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Time magazine is now a pamphlet read by people in airport toilet
stalls.
-Rich
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smwei

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 9:37 pm
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So, is _Fountainhead_ great lit or a personal favorite?



Francis A. Miniter wrote:
> alejandro de tacobell wrote:
>
>
>>let's best TIME's list of best english language lit of 20th century.
>>we'll allow books from 1900 to 2005
>>
>>list 25 english novels you think of highly as either great lit or
>>personal fav.
>><snip>
>>
>
> Margaret Atwood, The Blind Assassin
> A. S. Byatt, Possession
> John Fowles, A Maggot
> James Joyce, Ulysses
> Pete Dexter, Paris Trout
> Tim O'Brien, The Things They Carried
> Kurt Vonnegut, Slaughter House Five
> John LeCarre, The Spy Who Came In From the Cold
> Ayn Rand, The Fountainhead
> John Mortimer, Paradise Postponed
> Kazuo Ishiguro, The Remains of the Day
> J. R. R. Tolkien, The Lord of the Rings
> Isaac Azimov, Foundation trilogy
> James Herbert, Dune trilogy
> Josephine Tey, The Daughter of TIme
> Agatha Christie, The Murder of Roger Ackroyd
> Robertson Davies, The Deptford Trilogy
> Michael Ondaatje, The English Patient
> F. Scott Fitzgerald, The Great Gatsby
> George Orwell, 1984
> Peter Matthiesson, At Play in the Fields of the Lord
> James Clavell, King Rat
> J .D. Salinger, The Catcher in the Rye
> Hemingway, For Whom the Bell Tolls
> Joseph Heller, Catch - 22
>
>
> Francis A. Miniter
>
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alejandro de tacobell

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 10:20 pm
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at least it aint in the use-to-wipe stage but it'll get there soon.
one of its recent covers: kanye west as rap's class act.
now, what rap has class? and doesn't west go around saying white
people spread aids? some class. more like rap's ass act.
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Perfect Tommy

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 11:50 pm
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>at least it aint in the use-to-wipe stage but it'll get there soon.
one of its recent covers: kanye west as rap's class act.
now, what rap has class? and doesn't west go around saying white
people spread aids? some class. more like rap's ass act.


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Hey. Aegis.
Your hood is showing.
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JohnB

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 4:19 am
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Best thing I've read in God knows how long is the Philip Pullman
trilogy, Northern Lights, The Subtle Knife and The Amber Spyglass.
Don't believe anyone who tells you they're children's books.

Other really good stuff (well-written rather than simply entertaining):

Sebastian Faulks: Birdsong
Peter Hoeg: Miss Smilla's Feeling For Snow
David Guterson: Snow Falling On Cedars
Richard Bach: Jonathan Livingston Seagull
JRR Tolkein: The Lord Of The Rings
Paul Gallico: Snow Goose

Well, I thought they were good anyway. But I also think Terry
Pratchett and Douglas Adams are brilliant. Can I add "The Hitchhiker's
Guide To The Galaxy" to that list?
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 8:45 am
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The Information - Martin Amis
Deer Park - Norman Mailer
The Naked & The Dead - Mailer
The Magus - John Fowles
Attachments - Judith Rossner
Lie Down in Darkness - William Styron
Valley of the Dolls - Jacqueline Susann
Naked Lunch - William Burroughs
Last Temptation of Christ - Kaztanzakis (sp?)
Love In the Ruins - Walker Percy
Henderson the Rain King - Saul Bellow
The Women's Room - Marilyn French
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Lucas Hyde

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(Msg. 14) Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 10:46 am
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In article <1134657426.640597.284520.TakeThisOut@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
delcolja.TakeThisOut@mail.ab.edu says...
>
>
>Lucas Hyde wrote:
>> Please read my novel 'Hypnosis'. It is general fiction of high quality.
>>
>
>No it isn't. It's vanity press hackwork, prolix, leaden and
>unimaginative.
>

Was that just a first impression, or did you read the whole novel?
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 11:33 am
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smw wrote:

> So, is _Fountainhead_ great lit or a personal favorite?
>
>
Not really a personal favorite, though I did enjoy reading it. (It
certainly is much better than Atlas Shrugged - I don't think I could
read that 75 page diatribe again. And how could that harangue serve to
seduce the heroine anyways?) But I do think it is the best example of
a certain form of literature, the coldly, realistic attempt at heroism.
In many ways, this style of writing, of which Rand is probably the
best example, reminds me of the cold, monolithic photographic images
that both Nazis and Communists liked to use.


Francis A. Miniter
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