question re: codex

Hi Jerry-
Thanks for the reply. My cousin and I have both read and enjoyed the
Deryni books since we found Deryni Rising in our school library in 7th
grade. We both have all the books (I think!) and have read them many
times. We have both wanted a chance to have (or at least see) a copy of
the Codex for a long time.

It sounds like she ended up paying way too much for her copy. However,
I'm sure we'll both enjoy it a great deal (especially me, since I didnt
have to put out any funds).
Since this is one of the 26 lettered copies, do you think it might have
more value as a collector's piece? (That's me talking. I don't think she
will want to try to sell it anytime soon since she's waited so long to get
her hands on a copy!)

I've never posted or chatted before, so I'm not up on what's going on in
the Deryni universe. Why is the Codex no longer considered canon and when
did this happen? Is there anything out there to replace it? I've never
been to a con before either. Where is Darkover being held and what is
involved?

Sorry- I'm yakking too much. I'll stop now....
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Thanks, Melissa. I'll tell Robin. She just called me a few minutes ago
and told me she got the package. We're going to open it up tonite. I did
a bit of looking on the net on Darkover. It sounds like a great time. I
can't make it this year; but I will definitely plan on it for 2005.

Can anyone tell me more about why/when the Codex became "non-canon" and if
there was any follow- up available out there. Also, someone told me there
were some fan-written story collections out there?
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"jele" <jele.DeleteThis@nospam.ci.burbank.ca.us> wrote in message news:<11be3af0a84312d16b8be847ed7147d8.DeleteThis@localhost.talkaboutabook.com>...
 > Hi Jerry-
 > Thanks for the reply. My cousin and I have both read and enjoyed the
 > Deryni books since we found Deryni Rising in our school library in 7th
 > grade. We both have all the books (I think!) and have read them many
 > times. We have both wanted a chance to have (or at least see) a copy of
 > the Codex for a long time.
 >
 > It sounds like she ended up paying way too much for her copy. However,
 > I'm sure we'll both enjoy it a great deal (especially me, since I didnt
 > have to put out any funds).
 > Since this is one of the 26 lettered copies, do you think it might have
 > more value as a collector's piece? (That's me talking. I don't think she
 > will want to try to sell it anytime soon since she's waited so long to get
 > her hands on a copy!)
 >
 > I've never posted or chatted before, so I'm not up on what's going on in
 > the Deryni universe. Why is the Codex no longer considered canon and when
 > did this happen? Is there anything out there to replace it? I've never
 > been to a con before either. Where is Darkover being held and what is
 > involved?
 >
 > Sorry- I'm yakking too much. I'll stop now....

Not a problem, you will find us a friendly group here. Chats are the
same. I haven't been able to get up on the chat room in a while but
Sunday afternoons/early evenings are a good time to be there as
occasionally Katherine will make an appearance and you can sometimes
get tidbits on what she is up to writing wise or house construction
wise. She is a very nice person who makes the people new to the chat
feel welcome.

Codex value is as with anything, in the eye of the owner. So only
your sister can say if she payed too much. Katherine and Robert
Reginald, from what I understand, had a parting of the ways so that
kind of put the codex in a nice info but no longer official. Still
would be a lot of neat info to read. Nothing to replace it, at least
not yet. There is an atlas in work with most of the info coming from
the books directly- with some input from Katherine. Not sure when it
will appear.

Katherine is working, slowly-way too slowly- on the second book of the
Childe Morgan series. There has also been some word that she and Ms
Harris are submitting a proposal for a new Adept book though this one
will take place in the late 1800's.

Darkover happens Thanksgiving weekend up in the Baltimore area.
Katherine attends and a group descends on her and they appear to have
a good time. Haven't been myself-too far and wrong time of the year.
There will be more on it as the tiem draws near.


Welcome to the group and don't be afraid to post queries or comments.


jerry<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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jele <jele DeleteThis @nospam.ci.burbank.ca.us> wrote in message
news:11be3af0a84312d16b8be847ed7147d8@localhost.talkaboutabook.com...
 > Hi Jerry-
 > Thanks for the reply. My cousin and I have both read and enjoyed the
 > Deryni books since we found Deryni Rising in our school library in 7th
 > grade. We both have all the books (I think!) and have read them many
 > times. We have both wanted a chance to have (or at least see) a copy of
 > the Codex for a long time.
 >
 > It sounds like she ended up paying way too much for her copy. However,
 > I'm sure we'll both enjoy it a great deal (especially me, since I didnt
 > have to put out any funds).
 > Since this is one of the 26 lettered copies, do you think it might have
 > more value as a collector's piece? (That's me talking. I don't think she
 > will want to try to sell it anytime soon since she's waited so long to get
 > her hands on a copy!)
 >
 > I've never posted or chatted before, so I'm not up on what's going on in
 > the Deryni universe. Why is the Codex no longer considered canon and when
 > did this happen? Is there anything out there to replace it? I've never
 > been to a con before either. Where is Darkover being held and what is
 > involved?
 >
 > Sorry- I'm yakking too much. I'll stop now....
 >
 >
Jele,

I'd say your cousin should hold onto her Codex, whatever it's actual
monetary value, because there won't be any more published. It's already a
rarity. Copies of the Codex have gone for over $1,000.00 in the past.I
believe the highest price was over $2,000.00. So in a certain sense, your
cousin got a bargain. I think the lettered copies are no different from the
numbered ones, but there are only 526 bound printed copies of the Codex in
existence. So tell her to enjoy it, and not spill anything on it. =o)

Darkover is held in Timmonium MD at the Hunt Valley Holiday Inn over
Thanksgiving Weekend each year. It runs from Friday Morning to Sunday
Noonish. Katherine is a regular guest each year. She's often on several
panels, and holds a reading of her latest work at some point during the
weekend. It's worth going to have a chance to meet her, as she is very warm
and friendly. Take some of your books if you go, as she usually has a
signing session on Saturday afternoons. In past years, fans have taken her
out to dinner on saturday night somewhere in Timmonium. If you go, seek out
Pat Nolan's Rampant Lion pub run out of her hotel room. It's a good place
to meet other Deryni fans.

Melissa<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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There is a fanzine, The Deryni Archives, that is published annually. Katherine
sees and approves all of the stories there so that none of them are way WAY
off, although of course they are not canon.
There is a small zine called the Annales of King Kelson that is a sort of codex
for King Kelson's Bride. That is approved by Katherine. The Annales can be
obtained by writing to OldJessie.DeleteThis@hotmail.com.
By the way, Darkover is held at the Holiday Inn Timmonium, not the Hunt Valley
Inn, which is used by another con.
The Welshman with a Thousand and One faces
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Thumper <corgula.RemoveThis@aol.comnixspam> wrote in message
news:20041027200323.15823.00003025@mb-m28.aol.com...
 > There is a fanzine, The Deryni Archives, that is published annually.
Katherine
 > sees and approves all of the stories there so that none of them are way
WAY
 > off, although of course they are not canon.
 > There is a small zine called the Annales of King Kelson that is a sort of
codex
 > for King Kelson's Bride. That is approved by Katherine. The Annales can
be
 > obtained by writing to OldJessie.RemoveThis@hotmail.com.
 > By the way, Darkover is held at the Holiday Inn Timmonium, not the Hunt
Valley
 > Inn, which is used by another con.
 > The Welshman with a Thousand and One faces

Whoops! Sorry, and thanks for the correction, Pat. For fanfic without having
to wait for the fanzine, there is a website called the bardsquill at
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.bardsquill.com." target="_blank">www.bardsquill.com.</a> Lots of stories, there, some being posted in segments
while the authors complete them.

Melissa<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Everyone- thanks for the information. I'm going to look into the fanzine
this weekend.

My cousin Robin and I had a great time last night exploring her copy of
the Codex. She's very happy with it and that is all that really matters
in the end, of course.

We've never had anyone else to talk to about the books. This is fun!
Thanks for the warm welcome to the site!-- Je
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Why wait till this weekend? Hi! I'm the editor of Deryni Archives the
Zine. And I'm currently working on #20, with high hopes for getting it
out at Darkover Con.

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jele wrote:
 > Everyone- thanks for the information. I'm going to look into the fanzine
 > this weekend.
 >
 > My cousin Robin and I had a great time last night exploring her copy of
 > the Codex. She's very happy with it and that is all that really matters
 > in the end, of course.
 >
 > We've never had anyone else to talk to about the books. This is fun!
 > Thanks for the warm welcome to the site!-- Je
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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JJMJR45 DeleteThis @PRODIGY.NET (Jerry Maher) wrote:
 >Also there is the fact that the book is no longer cannon not that that
 >would dim interest in wanting to read the book, would love to get my
 >hands on one to read but it could dim interest in wanting to pay a lot
 >of money to own a copy.

*blink* Codex isn't canon anymore? I have been gone a long time.
Anyone mind whacking me with the clue-by-four?

*weak smile* hi everyone, I'm trying to claw my way back onto the
Usenet....have missed it.

Kristy

"As for whether either of us is Deryni--that is the business
of my king, my archbishop, and my God. If any man in
this hall has quarrel with that, I suggest he take it up
with one of them."--Bishop Duncan McLain<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Kristy,
Katherine and Robert had a falling out. As a result of that, she will not
be using anything from Codex that was not in her books, if I recall correctly.
There is a long story behind what happened and some of that may be in the
archieves, however, I do not know how to access those.
The Welshman with a Thousand and One faces
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Quoth corgula.TakeThisOut@aol.comnixspam (Thumper):
 >Kristy,
 > Katherine and Robert had a falling out. As a result of that, she will not
 >be using anything from Codex that was not in her books, if I recall correctly.
 >There is a long story behind what happened and some of that may be in the
 >archieves, however, I do not know how to access those.
 >The Welshman with a Thousand and One faces

Oh, dear.

Why do I always seem to find out about these things by sticking my
foot in my mouth?

Kristy
fighting Real Life for Usenet time, darnit!

"As for whether either of us is Deryni--that is the business
of my king, my archbishop, and my God. If any man in
this hall has quarrel with that, I suggest he take it up
with one of them."--Bishop Duncan McLain<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Kristy,
You did not put your foot in your mouth. You asked a legitimate question!
The Welshman with a Thousand and One faces
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