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pacwriter

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Since: Nov 13, 2003
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 8:36 pm
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Hello all,

Normally, I work as a script consultant on the theatre-film side of things.
But one of my clients (we're based in the US) is looking to self-publish a
book. Initially, she was thinking of going with iUniverse, but she decided
it might be better to investigate more first.

I apologize for covering ground that has likely already been somewhat
covered here, but I hope you'll indulge a first-time visitor...

First, does anyone have any particular recommendations or experiences with
self-publishers?

Second, is there any place (an online resource, for example) where
self-publishers are reviewed? You can reach me via email at jon.DeleteThis@jondorf.com
or post here in the group. Thanks much!

Cheers,
Jon

Playwright, Screenwriter and Script Consultant
http://www.jondorf.com
Vice-Chair, Alliance of Los Angeles Playwrights
Final Draft and Writers Store Resident Playwriting Expert
Member, Dramatists Guild of America

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mfw

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Since: Oct 27, 2003
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 7:24 am
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On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:36:06 -0800, pac wrote
(in message <tPWdnWWYJ7zsrCmi4p2dnA DeleteThis @comcast.com>):

 > First, does anyone have any particular recommendations or experiences with
 > self-publishers?
 >--------------------------------snip----------------------------------<

I haven't found a better resource than this one:


<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.booksandtales.com/pod/" target="_blank">http://www.booksandtales.com/pod/</a>


Lotta do's and don'ts there. And you'll find more advice here:


<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.wildcatintl.com/partners/pnw/secrets/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.wildcatintl.com/partners/pnw/secrets/index.html</a>


Particularly good are the author's comments on how not to go broke in
self-publishing.

--MFW<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->

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atakeoutcanton1

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 8:44 am
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pac wrote:


 > First, does anyone have any particular recommendations or experiences with
 > self-publishers?
 >


There are a ton of sites having to do with self-publishing but I think the
best is (still) Dan Poynter's at <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.parapub.com" target="_blank">www.parapub.com</a> .

Al Canton
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2003 12:16 pm
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"Adams-Blake Co." <atakeoutcanton RemoveThis @adams-blaketakeout.com> wrote in message news:<EYZsb.12307$6c3.730@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
 > pac wrote:
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  > > First, does anyone have any particular recommendations or experiences with
  > > self-publishers?
  > >
 >
 >
 > There are a ton of sites having to do with self-publishing but I think the
 > best is (still) Dan Poynter's at <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.parapub.com" target="_blank">www.parapub.com</a> .
 >
 > Al Canton
 > Adams-Blake Company Inc.


The poster asked abaout self-publishers. Does he mean subsidy
publishers?
There are plusses and minuses about using a subsidy publihser instead
of doing it yourself, perhaps with the help of a book packager.

I would add that the internet is not sufficient to learn about self
publihsing or even subsidy publishing. Before publishing a book, one
needs to read some books!

Here are my reviews of the major ones:
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://wexfordpress.com/tex/pub.pdf" target="_blank">http://wexfordpress.com/tex/pub.pdf</a>

How to tell subsidy publishing from self publishing? It's easy. If you
buy and use your own block of ISBN numbers you are a self-publisher.
If not you are using either a subsidy publisher or a cooperative
service like writerscollective.org.

Subsidy publishers like to confuse the issue by calling themselves POD
publishers or even firms offering services to self-publishers. POD is
a printing technology, used by subsidy publishers but also by printers
such as Fidlar-Doubleday or Lightning Source. So you can print POD
yourself at lower upfront cost. And if you use their ISBN, you are in
the hands of a subsidy publisher, period. Don't be confused on this
point.

Sone subsidy publishers charge big fees up front, and pad their profit
margin by selling some generally useless marketing packages. Others,
like Booklocker.com charge low upfront fees and expect book sales to
give them their profit. Obviously that is a better deal for you as an
author.



So here are my recommendations:

1. Read some books. If you don't read, you fail.
2. Self publish instead of subsidy publishing if at all possible.
3. Consider the cooperative publishing service writerscollective.org.
4. Consider using a true book packager or a publishing consultant.
5. If you still decide on a subsidy publisher, condsider a low cost
one instead of the ones with the fancy websites and the fancy
promises.
6. Marketing is key, and it is your responsibility. So read up on it.

John Culleton
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