A Question regarding if these lyrics orginiated with Tolki..

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 > "Derek Wildstar" <gunner RemoveThis @argo.mil> wrote in message
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  > > Did the song, "Into the West" by Annie Lennox for RotK, have as it's
 > lyrical
  > > basis anything written by Tolkien? If so, can you point out where they
are
  > > written? Thanks.
  > >
  > > "Lay down
  > > Your sweet and weary head
  > > The night is falling
  > > You have come to journey's end
  > > Sleep now
  > > And dream of the ones who came before
  > > They are calling
  > > From across the distant shore "
 >
 > The lyrics are *not* from anything in Tolkien, but the *imagery* is.
 > Remember the recent controversy over Gandalf's description of the "far
green
 > country" to Pippin in Minas Tirith? This was taken from a dream Frodo had
 > early on, and was a description of the West. I think that this particular
 > imagery must have resonated very strongly with the writers of the script.
 > According to the liner notes on my soundtrack, the song was done by Fran
 > Walsh, Annie Lennox and Howard Shore. I'm guessing mostly Walsh for the
 > lyrics. I love the song, and find it hauntingly beautiful, and capable of
 > chasing away earworms.
 > Barbara

Thank you! I gather you are definitively stating, "None of those lyrics
originated with Tolkien in any strictly written fashion".

I too think it is a haunting piece, soon to be overdone.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 03:17:19 GMT, "Derek Wildstar" <gunner RemoveThis @argo.mil> wrote:

 >Thank you! I gather you are definitively stating, "None of those lyrics
 >originated with Tolkien in any strictly written fashion".
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 >I too think it is a haunting piece, soon to be overdone.

I found something similarly haunting in the title of a record by Tyrranosaurus
Rex. I bought the record because the title looked like something out of
Tolkien: My people were fair and had syk in their hair, but now they're
content to wear stars on their brows."

It wasn't from Tolkien, but I'd like to know if it comes from a book or poem.


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On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 06:09:21 GMT, hayesmstw RemoveThis @hotmail.com (Steve Hayes)
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 >I found something similarly haunting in the title of a record by Tyrranosaurus
 >Rex. I bought the record because the title looked like something out of
 >Tolkien: My people were fair and had syk in their hair, but now they're
 >content to wear stars on their brows."
 >
'Syk in their hair'? Sounds awful.
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Derek Wildstar <gunner.RemoveThis@argo.mil> wrote:
 > Did the song, "Into the West" by Annie Lennox for RotK, have as it's
 > lyrical basis anything written by Tolkien? If so, can you point out
 > where they are written? Thanks.

Not from Tolkien literally, but they remind me of the following:

 > "Lay down
 > Your sweet and weary head

This reminds me of the Christian hymn 'Away in a Manger'!

 > The night is falling
 > You have come to journey's end

'Journey's end' reminds me of variants of 'The Road Goes Ever On'.
Specifically the one the Bilbo sings in Rivendell after the WotR. I am
also reminded of the Walking Song sung in the chapter 'Three's Company'.

 > Sleep now
 > And dream of the ones who came before
 > They are calling
 > From across the distant shore "

The 'calling from across the distant shore', and 'the ones who came
before' reminds me of Legolas's Song of the Sea, where he sings and asks
the grey ship if it hears the voices of his people calling, his people
that have gone before him.

If there are more lyrics from the song, there may be other resonances
(conscious or otherwise) with Tolkien's writings. IMO, Tolkien's
writings are much better and far more poetic.

Christopher

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