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Since: Feb 02, 2005 Posts: 1
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 7:01 am
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 12:40 am
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 1:40 am
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don freeman <dfreem3 RemoveThis @nospam.shaw.ca> wrote in news:MeXNd.319237$Xk.93029
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>> what's the best film from a dick novel?
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> Blade Runner ----no competition
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>
I'm inclined to agree with that, despite it's departure from the written
word - which might not be such a bad thing, if it adds another story for
our enjoyment.
I think we're lucky - although we've had some poorer film adaptations, we
haven't had anything so bad as to be embarrassing (which I hear
"I,Robot" was).
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 12:22 pm
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ignacio_i1i1.RemoveThis@hotmail.com wrote:
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> what's the best film from a dick novel?
It hasn't been made yet ...
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 4:56 pm
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> I think we're lucky - although we've had some poorer film
adaptations, we
> haven't had anything so bad as to be embarrassing (which I hear
> "I,Robot" was).
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Paycheck was sooo bad it made I,Robot look like Citizen Kane.
Even Screamers was pretty good, particularly liked the claustrophobic
feeling it developed and the twist at the end. Well within the spirit
of the story, Third Variety.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 5:43 pm
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<lanetim RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message news:1107906977.260681.114430@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > I think we're lucky - although we've had some poorer film
> adaptations, we
> > haven't had anything so bad as to be embarrassing (which I hear
> > "I,Robot" was).
> >
>
> Paycheck was sooo bad it made I,Robot look like Citizen Kane.
Agreed. I haven't seen "I, Robot", but I can't imagine anything much
lamer than "Paycheck". The only good thing you can say is that it
was just plain boring and pointless, not embarrassingly hideous like
"Starship Troopers".
> Even Screamers was pretty good, particularly liked the claustrophobic
> feeling it developed and the twist at the end. Well within the spirit
> of the story, Third Variety.
>
> Timbo
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 10:40 pm
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 2:40 am
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Scoop <no-spam DeleteThis @sonic.net> wrote in
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> Quoth Bill Cleere:
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>: <lanetim DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
>: news:1107906977.260681.114430@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
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>:> > I think we're lucky - although we've had some poorer film
>:> > adaptations, we haven't had anything so bad as to be embarrassing
>:> > (which I hear "I,Robot" was).
>:> >
>:>
>:> Paycheck was sooo bad it made I,Robot look like Citizen Kane.
>
>: Agreed. I haven't seen "I, Robot", but I can't imagine anything much
>: lamer than "Paycheck". The only good thing you can say is that it
>: was just plain boring and pointless, not embarrassingly hideous like
>: "Starship Troopers".
>
> I dunno -- at least ST was true to the Heinleinian /spirit/. And
> "Paycheck" /wouldn't/ have been embarassingly hideous, but then they
> tacked on that "McMillan and Wife" ending. Blrglrptkptptl.
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"Paycheck" wasn't great, I'd agree - in fact the worse adaptation I can
think of. Earlier comments about "Screamers" worthy of note - not a big
budget example of box-office gloss, but it had it's charm.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 2:40 am
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"Proginoskes" <proginoskes.RemoveThis@email.msn.com> wrote in
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> ignacio_i1i1.RemoveThis@hotmail.com wrote:
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>> what's the best film from a dick novel?
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> It hasn't been made yet ...
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> --- Christopher Heckman
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>
Probably "Ubiq", made in 2008 by Terry Gilliam (well, here's hoping,
anyway!)
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 9:25 am
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"Scoop" <no-spam.DeleteThis@sonic.net> wrote in message news:aQeOd.6000$m31.73502@typhoon.sonic.net...
> Quoth Bill Cleere:
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> : <lanetim.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1107906977.260681.114430@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> :> >
> :> > I think we're lucky - although we've had some poorer film adaptations,
> :> > we haven't had anything so bad as to be embarrassing (which I hear
> :> > "I,Robot" was).
> :> >
> :>
> :> Paycheck was sooo bad it made I,Robot look like Citizen Kane.
>
> : Agreed. I haven't seen "I, Robot", but I can't imagine anything much
> : lamer than "Paycheck". The only good thing you can say is that it
> : was just plain boring and pointless, not embarrassingly hideous like
> : "Starship Troopers".
>
> I dunno -- at least ST was true to the Heinleinian /spirit/. And "Paycheck"
> /wouldn't/ have been embarassingly hideous, but then they tacked on that
> "McMillan and Wife" ending. Blrglrptkptptl.
I can't argue about either of those assertions. For all I know, the Heinlein
who was capable of writing books like "Starship Troopers" might have
liked the movie, whereas it's hard to imagine PKD approving of "Paycheck".
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 1:40 pm
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ignacio_i1i1 DeleteThis @hotmail.com wrote:
> what's the best film from a dick novel?
I agree that Blade Runner is out of reach for others so far. Though not
because it is a good adaptaion but because it is a great movie.
Screamers is not bad, but I do not like ending. Imposter and Paycheck
are very mediocre if not stupid. Minority Report has its own merits, but
overall is far from PKD spirit. I love Total Recall. It is quite Philip
K. Dick-ish. At least it is not completely clear if everything after the
operation is Doug's paranoidal delusion or reality. So my favourite are
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 1:40 pm
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Foxy <foxy RemoveThis @foxyhole.com> wrote in news:Ae2dnUNgFKJd1ZffRVnysA@pipex.net:
> ignacio_i1i1 RemoveThis @hotmail.com wrote:
>> what's the best film from a dick novel?
> I agree that Blade Runner is out of reach for others so far. Though not
> because it is a good adaptaion but because it is a great movie.
> Screamers is not bad, but I do not like ending. Imposter and Paycheck
> are very mediocre if not stupid. Minority Report has its own merits,
but
> overall is far from PKD spirit. I love Total Recall. It is quite Philip
> K. Dick-ish. At least it is not completely clear if everything after
the
> operation is Doug's paranoidal delusion or reality. So my favourite are
> the first and the last in this list.
>
I agree with your point about "Screamers" - it lost the plot at the end,
quite literally.
"Total Recall" was too far away from WCRIFYW for my liking, but I do
enjoy it as a film, partly because Douglas Adams' triple-breasted whore
of Erotican VI was made flesh. A few details made it a little too far
fetched, such as removing that thing through his nose - the nose is
hardly a birth canal - and the idea that you can get thrown into the
Martian atmosphere and survive (I tried it once, and ran back inside
straight away - the place is too darned windy for my liking).
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Dave
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 5:40 pm
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lanetim.TakeThisOut@gmail.com wrote:
>> I think we're lucky - although we've had some poorer film
>> adaptations, we haven't had anything so bad as to be embarrassing
>> (which I hear "I,Robot" was).
>>
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> Paycheck was sooo bad it made I,Robot look like Citizen Kane.
>
> Even Screamers was pretty good, particularly liked the claustrophobic
> feeling it developed and the twist at the end. Well within the spirit
> of the story, Third Variety.
>
> Timbo
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 5:40 pm
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Dave Ryman wrote:
> A few details made it a little too far
> fetched, such as removing that thing through his nose - the nose is
> hardly a birth canal - and the idea that you can get thrown into the
> Martian atmosphere and survive (I tried it once, and ran back inside
> straight away - the place is too darned windy for my liking).
>
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