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Hank wrote:

 >
 > "Paycheck"


LOL.

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"Scoop" <no-spam.TakeThisOut@sonic.net> wrote in message news:UdwOd.6227$m31.74682@typhoon.sonic.net...
 > Quoth Bill Cleere:
 >
 > : "Scoop" <no-spam.TakeThisOut@sonic.net> wrote in message news:aQeOd.6000$m31.73502@typhoon.sonic.net...
 > :> Quoth Bill Cleere:
 > :>
 > :> : <lanetim.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
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 > :> :> >
 > :> :> > I think we're lucky - although we've had some poorer film
 > :> :> > adaptations, we haven't had anything so bad as to be embarrassing
 > :> :> > (which I hear "I,Robot" was).
 > :> :> >
 > :> :>
 > :> :> Paycheck was sooo bad it made I,Robot look like Citizen Kane.
 > :>
 > :> : Agreed. I haven't seen "I, Robot", but I can't imagine anything much
 > :> : lamer than "Paycheck". The only good thing you can say is that it was
 > :> : just plain boring and pointless, not embarrassingly hideous like
 > :> : "Starship Troopers".
 > :>
 > :> I dunno -- at least ST was true to the Heinleinian /spirit/. And "Paycheck"
 > :> /wouldn't/ have been embarassingly hideous, but then they tacked on that
 > :> "McMillan and Wife" ending. Blrglrptkptptl.
 >
 > : I can't argue about either of those assertions. For all I know, the
 > : Heinlein who was capable of writing books like "Starship Troopers" might
 > : have liked the movie, whereas it's hard to imagine PKD approving of
 > : "Paycheck".
 >
 > I'll agree with that. I also see that I was insufficiently pointed in my
 > "Paycheck" criticism; what I meant to express was that I found it to be like
 > Peter Jackson's LOTR -- a pleasant entertainment for those whose familiarity
 > with the original was confined to sixth-hand information conveyed through
 > semaphore pig-Latin. The /ending/ is what made it "emabarrasingly hideous."

The sad thing was that, though the PKD story was one of
his worst, the plot device was a great idea and could have been
turned into a very good standard SF thriller.

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 > Hank wrote:
 >
  > >
  > > "Paycheck"
 >
 >
 > LOL.
 >
 > I don't remember that title, but it has been a while since I read any PKD.

And "Paycheck" is one you would have forgotten immediately
if you had read it.

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Bill Cleere wrote:
 > "ed" <me RemoveThis @privacy.net> wrote in message
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  > > Hank wrote:
  > >
   > > >
   > > > "Paycheck"
  > >
  > >
  > > LOL.
  > >
  > > I don't remember that title, but it has been a while since I
  > > read any PKD.
 >
 > And "Paycheck" is one you would have forgotten immediately
 > if you had read it.

I always thought "Paycheck" was humorous. Once the scoop grabs the
recept from whats-her-name's hand, I could just _hear_ a muted trumpet
going Wah, Wah, Waaaah.

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 > Dave Ryman wrote:
 >
 >
  >> A few details made it a little too far
  >> fetched, such as removing that thing through his nose - the nose is
  >> hardly a birth canal - and the idea that you can get thrown into the
  >> Martian atmosphere and survive (I tried it once, and ran back inside
  >> straight away - the place is too darned windy for my liking).
  >>
 >
 > Well, if you consider it as Doug's hallucinations, then it's ok, I
 > guess.
 >

Ah, so halucination or not? A clue planted by the filmmakers, perhaps?
Not convinced - think it's just overzealous screenwriting and an excuse
to use some FX.

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 > Quoth Dave Ryman:
 >: "Proginoskes" <proginoskes.RemoveThis@email.msn.com> wrote in
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 >:> ignacio_i1i1.RemoveThis@hotmail.com wrote:
 >:>>
 >:>> what's the best film from a dick novel?
 >:>
 >:> It hasn't been made yet ...
 >
 >: Probably "Ubiq", made in 2008 by Terry Gilliam (well, here's hoping,
 >: anyway!)
 >
 > Oh, now you're just playing with us. Gilliam is the only
 > director/auteur (aside from Charlie Kaufman, natch) with the right
 > sort of industrial-strength twist worthy of midwifing PKD into
 > cinematic birth-squalls.
 >

Cinematic birth-squalls? I think you'll have to wait a while while I go
back to school and redo my English 'O'-level (me is a little foxed). Good
thing or bad thing - I'm not sure - just what is a squall?



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Bill Cleere wrote:

 >
 > And "Paycheck" is one you would have forgotten immediately
 > if you had read it.
 >
 > -- Bill Cleere



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On 9 Feb 2005 06:45:11 GMT, Dave Ryman <dave_rymanNOSPAM.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com>
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 >"Proginoskes" <proginoskes.TakeThisOut@email.msn.com> wrote in
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  >> ignacio_i1i1.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com wrote:
   >>>
   >>> what's the best film from a dick novel?
  >>
  >> It hasn't been made yet ...
  >>
  >> --- Christopher Heckman
  >>
  >>
 >
 >Probably "Ubiq", made in 2008 by Terry Gilliam (well, here's hoping,
 >anyway!)

  Damn fine idea, just the same.



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 > Quoth Dave Ryman:
 >: Scoop <no-spam DeleteThis @sonic.net> wrote in
 >: news:o9wOd.6226$m31.74672@typhoon.sonic.net:
 >
 >:> Quoth Dave Ryman:
 >:>
 >:>: Probably "Ubiq", made in 2008 by Terry Gilliam (well, here's
 >:>: hoping, anyway!)
 >:>
 >:> Oh, now you're just playing with us. Gilliam is the only
 >:> director/auteur (aside from Charlie Kaufman, natch) with the right
 >:> sort of industrial-strength twist worthy of midwifing PKD into
 >:> cinematic birth-squalls.
 >
 >: Cinematic birth-squalls? I think you'll have to wait a while while I
 >: go back to school and redo my English 'O'-level (me is a little
 >: foxed). Good thing or bad thing - I'm not sure - just what is a
 >: squall?
 >
 > Sorry -- I got carried away. Birth-squalls are what babies do after
 > they successfully pop out of the womb.
 >
 > I should simply have said: "GILLIAM?!?!? Doing
 > *U*B*I*K*??!?!?!?!?!?!?!? Oh, man, that would be frickin' AWESOME."
 > (That was actually my first thought, but I bungled the delivery.)
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My vote would go to Gilliam, Lynch or Cronenberg (spelling?) - I suppose
it depends how much you want your stomach to churn! I've said this all
before, but Hollywood clearly haven't read my posts.

I like the way Gilliam "thinks" as a director, and I haven't seen a
single Gilliam film that hasn't measured up yet.

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Dave Ryman <dave_rymanNOSPAM.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:

 >Scoop <no-spam.RemoveThis@sonic.net> wrote in
 >news:ipPOd.6339$m31.76273@typhoon.sonic.net:
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  >> Quoth Dave Ryman:
  >>: Scoop <no-spam.RemoveThis@sonic.net> wrote in
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  >>
  >>:> Quoth Dave Ryman:
  >>:>
  >>:>: Probably "Ubiq", made in 2008 by Terry Gilliam (well, here's
  >>:>: hoping, anyway!)
  >>:>

 >My vote would go to Gilliam, Lynch or Cronenberg (spelling?) - I suppose
 >it depends how much you want your stomach to churn! I've said this all
 >before, but Hollywood clearly haven't read my posts.
 >
 >I like the way Gilliam "thinks" as a director, and I haven't seen a
 >single Gilliam film that hasn't measured up yet.

Definitely Cronenberg, he's already a Dick fan. Did you spot the
"Perky Pat" take-away in Existenz?

Sadly, I doubt David Lynch would be interested in doing another film
adaptation of a science-fiction novel after his experiences on Dune...

Out of left-field, I would suggest that Terry Zwigoff (Ghost World)
would be another good choice to direct a film based on Phil's work.
Possibly one of the non-SF novels, like Confessions of a Crap Artist.


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Foxy <foxy.RemoveThis@foxyhole.com> wrote:

 >ignacio_i1i1@hotmail.com wrote:
  >> what's the best film from a dick novel?
 >I agree that Blade Runner is out of reach for others so far. Though not
 >because it is a good adaptaion but because it is a great movie.
 >Screamers is not bad, but I do not like ending. Imposter and Paycheck
 >are very mediocre if not stupid. Minority Report has its own merits, but
 >overall is far from PKD spirit. I love Total Recall. It is quite Philip
 >
Minority Report is DIRECTLY opposed to the Phil's intention in the
original story. Which is why I hated it (and every other piece of
dreck from Spielberg that I have seen apart from CE3K).

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