Critique of a Will Dockery poem

Karla wrote:
 > Will Dockery says...
  > >Renay wrote:
   > >> >>
   > >> >> >>But, he will repost everything he's ever typed.
   > >> >> >
   > >> >> >yes, over and over and over and over and over and over and
over
  > >and
   > >> > over again.
   > >> >> >
   > >> >> >but i'm curious as to why he's not responded to my question
about
   > >> > how he is able
   > >> >> >to determine the quality of Ms Renay as a poet by reading only
  > >one
   > >> > of her
   > >> >> >poems....yet then say we can't determine the quality of a poet
by
   > >> > reading just
   > >> >> >one of their poems?
   > >> >>
   > >> >> Well, if his past behavior is any indication, he'd probably
  > >respond
   > >> > by
   > >> >> saying that he's never posted any comment on Renay's poems, and
  > >he's
   > >> >> never read any of Renay's poems
   > >> >
   > >> > Wrong, as usual, Gas-fly.
   > >> >
   > >> > Instead, I posted the link to the Google archives of her poems,
  > >where
   > >> > I've read about a dozen:
   > >> >
 >
 ><http://groups.google.ca/groups?hl=en&lr=&q=author:gundersr%40ccmail.orst.edu+>
   > >>
   > >> Feb 16, 1994
   > >> Jan 11, 1994
   > >> Dec 12, 1993
   > >> Jul 27, 1993
   > >> May 20, 1993
   > >> etc.
   > >>
   > >> pathetic
  > >
  > >In some ways the Saint Venus poetry collection has a "pathetic"
aspect,
  > >as most poetry in the "navel gazing confessional soap opera swipe"
  > >genre does, but that's actually a part of the *charm* of it, since
the
  > >readers, the target audience of this type of poetry enjoy a bit of
  > >"pathos" mixed in between the jeers, sneers and chair throwing.
 >
 > Where on the "pathetic, navel gazing confessional soap opera swipe"
continuum do
 > you assess your own writing to fall?

Pathetic was RJS' word, not mine, but there are obvious elements of
pathos involved with her poems.

Almost every poem I write has a personal element, and that, to me,
makes the best poetry. The "navel gazing" reference has in fact been
used in critique of my poetry, and partially where I copped the term
from.

In this case, with judging RJS' poetry, I'm pointing out the hypocrisy
of the standard makers of these newsgroups, Ward, Gas-fly, et al, who
ordinarily, and usually quite brutally, dismiss the poetry of the
"navel gaze confessional" variety.

 > Do you think your writing is less
 > disgustingly personal (to summarize your view of Renay's)?

I never described it as "disgusting", Karla. Some of my best friends
are trailer trash, and proudly so.

Hope this helps.

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In article <1113594559.528872.12700.RemoveThis@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Will Dockery
says...
 >
 >
 >Karla wrote:
  >> Will Dockery says...
   >> >Renay wrote:
   >> >> >>
   >> >> >> >>But, he will repost everything he's ever typed.
   >> >> >> >
   >> >> >> >yes, over and over and over and over and over and over and
 >over
   >> >and
   >> >> > over again.
   >> >> >> >
   >> >> >> >but i'm curious as to why he's not responded to my question
 >about
   >> >> > how he is able
   >> >> >> >to determine the quality of Ms Renay as a poet by reading only
   >> >one
   >> >> > of her
   >> >> >> >poems....yet then say we can't determine the quality of a poet
 >by
   >> >> > reading just
   >> >> >> >one of their poems?
   >> >> >>
   >> >> >> Well, if his past behavior is any indication, he'd probably
   >> >respond
   >> >> > by
   >> >> >> saying that he's never posted any comment on Renay's poems, and
   >> >he's
   >> >> >> never read any of Renay's poems
   >> >> >
   >> >> > Wrong, as usual, Gas-fly.
   >> >> >
   >> >> > Instead, I posted the link to the Google archives of her poems,
   >> >where
   >> >> > I've read about a dozen:
   >> >> >
  >>
  >><http://groups.google.ca/groups?hl=en&lr=&q=author:gundersr%40ccmail.orst.edu+>
   >> >>
   >> >> Feb 16, 1994
   >> >> Jan 11, 1994
   >> >> Dec 12, 1993
   >> >> Jul 27, 1993
   >> >> May 20, 1993
   >> >> etc.
   >> >>
   >> >> pathetic
   >> >
   >> >In some ways the Saint Venus poetry collection has a "pathetic"
 >aspect,
   >> >as most poetry in the "navel gazing confessional soap opera swipe"
   >> >genre does, but that's actually a part of the *charm* of it, since
 >the
   >> >readers, the target audience of this type of poetry enjoy a bit of
   >> >"pathos" mixed in between the jeers, sneers and chair throwing.
  >>
  >> Where on the "pathetic, navel gazing confessional soap opera swipe"
 >continuum do
  >> you assess your own writing to fall?
 >
 >Pathetic was RJS' word, not mine, but there are obvious elements of
 >pathos involved with her poems.
 >
 >Almost every poem I write has a personal element, and that, to me,
 >makes the best poetry. The "navel gazing" reference has in fact been
 >used in critique of my poetry, and partially where I copped the term
 >from.
 >
 >
 >
 >In this case, with judging RJS' poetry, I'm pointing out the hypocrisy
 >of the standard makers of these newsgroups, Ward, Gas-fly, et al, who
 >ordinarily, and usually quite brutally, dismiss the poetry of the
 >"navel gaze confessional" variety.

That is only one component of why they dismiss such writing.

 >
  >> Do you think your writing is less
  >> disgustingly personal (to summarize your view of Renay's)?
 >
 >I never described it as "disgusting", Karla. Some of my best friends
 >are trailer trash, and proudly so.

You made many references to Renay and Renay's poetry as trailer trash in a
derogatory connotation. In fact, if you see no insult to calling someone's
writing "trailer trash", where then is the insult which prompts your crusade?

 >Hope this helps.

It doesn't. I'm well aware of your crusade. Aside from that, I'm asking you to
give me your assessment of your own writing. Do you find it superior to
Renay's?

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In article <1113583533.986942.149740.TakeThisOut@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
Will Dockery <shamankickboxer.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> said:

 >
 > Barbara's Cat wrote:
  > > Will Dockery said:
  > >
   > > > we *will* bury you
  > >
  > > <snicker> As usual, your megalomania psychosis is amusing.
 >
 > Actually, that was a nostalgic homage to the Cold War:

Nah, that was you doing your "Warrior Little Willma" routine.

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pandora wrote:
 > "Will Dockery" wrote:
  > >
  > > In fact, even your hated Pandora writes better poetry.
 >
 > Why, thank you will. I appreciate that. My poetry has been
improving since
 > I left these newsgroups. My poetry critique group is much better at
 > critiquing than anyone here was.
  > > Hope this helps.
 >
 > It does. Indeed.

Here's a good spot to show Gamble as nothing but a jeering Gas-fly,
after all.

When I first arrived on these newsgroups, I noticed one of the better
poets posting here at the time was... Pandora.

Here's one of my favorites from that era:

----
From: Will Dockery
Subject: ANIMAL GUIDE [my favorite Pandora poem]
Newsgroups: rec.arts.poems
Date: 2003-12-22 19:03:00 PST

ANIMAL GUIDE
------------------------------

the crow chose me
my animal guide
wise perky noisy trickster

my hubby thinks it's fitting
and so do I
for who can ignore a crow
noisily cawing
proclaiming it's presence
or arrogantly strutting through a parking lot

and yet
it survives and thrives
as do I

be wary though
of the trickster aspect
crows can fool you

-pandora
May 30, 2001
----

I don't just *hope*, I *know* this helps.

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pandora wrote:
 > "Will Dockery" wrote:
  > >
  > > In fact, even your hated Pandora writes better poetry.
 >
 > Why, thank you will. I appreciate that. My poetry has been
improving since
 > I left these newsgroups. My poetry critique group is much better at
 > critiquing than anyone here was.
  > > Hope this helps.
 >
 > It does. Indeed.

Here's a good spot to show Gamble as nothing but a jeering Gas-fly,
after all.

When I first arrived on these newsgroups, I noticed one of the better
poets posting here at the time was... Pandora.

Here's one of my favorites from that era:

----
From: Will Dockery
Subject: ANIMAL GUIDE [my favorite Pandora poem]
Newsgroups: rec.arts.poems
Date: 2003-12-22 19:03:00 PST

ANIMAL GUIDE
------------------------------

the crow chose me
my animal guide
wise perky noisy trickster

my hubby thinks it's fitting
and so do I
for who can ignore a crow
noisily cawing
proclaiming it's presence
or arrogantly strutting through a parking lot

and yet
it survives and thrives
as do I

be wary though
of the trickster aspect
crows can fool you

-pandora
May 30, 2001
----

I don't just *hope*, I *know* this helps.

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And his hair was perfect." -Warren Zevon

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Chandra P Das wrote:
 > Will Dockery wrote:
  > > pandora wrote:
 >
 > Take fucking five already, you non-stop-noisy little shit!

I think I will, old pal.

A lovely afternoon to stroll down to Don's Pub for a drink or two and
sharpen up with the billiards geezers.

Do you like Pandora's poetry, though? Seems you accidentally *snipped*
it:

----
From: Will Dockery
Subject: ANIMAL GUIDE [my favorite Pandora poem]
Newsgroups: rec.arts.poems
Date: 2003-12-22 19:03:00 PST

ANIMAL GUIDE
------------------------------

the crow chose me
my animal guide
wise perky noisy trickster

my hubby thinks it's fitting
and so do I
for who can ignore a crow
noisily cawing
proclaiming it's presence
or arrogantly strutting through a parking lot

and yet
it survives and thrives
as do I

be wary though
of the trickster aspect
crows can fool you

-pandora
May 30, 2001
----

I find it a reshering change from the "navel-gazing" of the trailer
park/soap opera variety we've been inflicted with, and all the
hypocritical applause from the gas-fly set.

--
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And his hair was perfect." -Warren Zevon

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In article <1113594559.528872.12700.DeleteThis@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Will Dockery
says...
 >
 >
 >Karla wrote:
  >> Will Dockery says...
   >> >Renay wrote:
   >> >> >>
   >> >> >> >>But, he will repost everything he's ever typed.
   >> >> >> >
   >> >> >> >yes, over and over and over and over and over and over and
 >over
   >> >and
   >> >> > over again.
   >> >> >> >
   >> >> >> >but i'm curious as to why he's not responded to my question
 >about
   >> >> > how he is able
   >> >> >> >to determine the quality of Ms Renay as a poet by reading only
   >> >one
   >> >> > of her
   >> >> >> >poems....yet then say we can't determine the quality of a poet
 >by
   >> >> > reading just
   >> >> >> >one of their poems?
   >> >> >>
   >> >> >> Well, if his past behavior is any indication, he'd probably
   >> >respond
   >> >> > by
   >> >> >> saying that he's never posted any comment on Renay's poems, and
   >> >he's
   >> >> >> never read any of Renay's poems
   >> >> >
   >> >> > Wrong, as usual, Gas-fly.
   >> >> >
   >> >> > Instead, I posted the link to the Google archives of her poems,
   >> >where
   >> >> > I've read about a dozen:
   >> >> >
  >>
  >><http://groups.google.ca/groups?hl=en&lr=&q=author:gundersr%40ccmail.orst.edu+>
   >> >>
   >> >> Feb 16, 1994
   >> >> Jan 11, 1994
   >> >> Dec 12, 1993
   >> >> Jul 27, 1993
   >> >> May 20, 1993
   >> >> etc.
   >> >>
   >> >> pathetic
   >> >
   >> >In some ways the Saint Venus poetry collection has a "pathetic"
 >aspect,
   >> >as most poetry in the "navel gazing confessional soap opera swipe"
   >> >genre does, but that's actually a part of the *charm* of it, since
 >the
   >> >readers, the target audience of this type of poetry enjoy a bit of
   >> >"pathos" mixed in between the jeers, sneers and chair throwing.
  >>
  >> Where on the "pathetic, navel gazing confessional soap opera swipe"
 >continuum do
  >> you assess your own writing to fall?
 >
 >Pathetic was RJS' word, not mine, but there are obvious elements of
 >pathos involved with her poems.
 >
 >Almost every poem I write has a personal element,

wow, dockery, no one else in all of history has ever written a personal poem.

 >and that, to me,
 >makes the best poetry. The "navel gazing" reference has in fact been
 >used in critique of my poetry, and partially where I copped the term
 >from.

so even your insults are original.

 >In this case, with judging RJS' poetry,

which you did after having read just one of her poems.


 >I'm pointing out the hypocrisy
 >of the standard makers of these newsgroups, Ward, Gas-fly, et al, who
 >ordinarily, and usually quite brutally, dismiss the poetry of the
 >"navel gaze confessional" variety.

but it's interesting, drunky. you're the only person who's referred to Ms.
Renay's poetry as navel-gazing.

what exactly does "navel-gazing" mean? where in her poetry does this happen? i
assert that there is not a single moment in any or Ms. Renay's poetry where this
navel-gazing is happening. not a single line or word. not for a moment.

if you are unable to provide any examples, i can only assume that you're lying.




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In article <d3p3fg029hn.RemoveThis@drn.newsguy.com>,
Karla <karlark.RemoveThis@sbcglobal.net> said:

 > In article <1113591196.223917.128780.RemoveThis@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, Will Dockery
 > says...
  > >
  > >Renay wrote:
   > >> "Will Dockery" wrote
   > >> >>
   > >> >> >>But, he will repost everything he's ever typed.
   > >> >> >
   > >> >> >yes, over and over and over and over and over and over and over
  > >and
   > >> > over again.
   > >> >> >
   > >> >> >but i'm curious as to why he's not responded to my question about
   > >> > how he is able
   > >> >> >to determine the quality of Ms Renay as a poet by reading only
  > >one
   > >> > of her
   > >> >> >poems....yet then say we can't determine the quality of a poet by
   > >> > reading just
   > >> >> >one of their poems?
   > >> >>
   > >> >> Well, if his past behavior is any indication, he'd probably
  > >respond
   > >> > by
   > >> >> saying that he's never posted any comment on Renay's poems, and
  > >he's
   > >> >> never read any of Renay's poems
   > >> >
   > >> > Wrong, as usual, Gas-fly.
   > >> >
   > >> > Instead, I posted the link to the Google archives of her poems,
  > >where
   > >> > I've read about a dozen:
   > >> >
   > >> >
  > ><http://groups.google.ca/groups?hl=en&lr=&q=author:gundersr%40ccmail.orst.edu+>
   > >>
   > >> Feb 16, 1994
   > >> Jan 11, 1994
   > >> Dec 12, 1993
   > >> Jul 27, 1993
   > >> May 20, 1993
   > >> etc.
   > >>
   > >> pathetic
  > >
  > >In some ways the Saint Venus poetry collection has a "pathetic" aspect,
  > >as most poetry in the "navel gazing confessional soap opera swipe"
  > >genre does, but that's actually a part of the *charm* of it, since the
  > >readers, the target audience of this type of poetry enjoy a bit of
  > >"pathos" mixed in between the jeers, sneers and chair throwing.
 >
 > Where on the "pathetic, navel gazing confessional soap opera swipe" continuum do
 > you assess your own writing to fall? Do you think your writing is less
 > disgustingly personal (to summarize your view of Renay's)?
 >
 > Karla

Pathetic, Navel Gazing Confessional Soap Opera Swipe Scale

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j r sherman wrote:
 > Will Dockery says...
  > >Karla wrote:
   > >> >> >>
   > >> >> >> >>But, he will repost everything he's ever typed.
   > >> >> >> >
   > >> >> >> >yes, over and over and over and over and over and over and
  > >over
   > >> >and
   > >> >> > over again.
   > >> >> >> >
   > >> >> >> >but i'm curious as to why he's not responded to my question
  > >about
   > >> >> > how he is able
   > >> >> >> >to determine the quality of Ms Renay as a poet by reading
only
   > >> >one
   > >> >> > of her
   > >> >> >> >poems....yet then say we can't determine the quality of a
poet
  > >by
   > >> >> > reading just
   > >> >> >> >one of their poems?
   > >> >> >>
   > >> >> >> Well, if his past behavior is any indication, he'd probably
   > >> >respond
   > >> >> > by
   > >> >> >> saying that he's never posted any comment on Renay's poems,
and
   > >> >he's
   > >> >> >> never read any of Renay's poems
   > >> >> >
   > >> >> > Wrong, as usual, Gas-fly.
   > >> >> >
   > >> >> > Instead, I posted the link to the Google archives of her
poems,
   > >> >where
   > >> >> > I've read about a dozen:
   > >>
 >
  >><http://groups.google.ca/groups?hl=en&lr=&q=author:gundersr%40ccmail.orst.edu+>
   > >> >>
   > >> >> Feb 16, 1994
   > >> >> Jan 11, 1994
   > >> >> Dec 12, 1993
   > >> >> Jul 27, 1993
   > >> >> May 20, 1993
   > >> >> etc.
   > >> >>
   > >> >> pathetic
   > >> >
   > >> >In some ways the Saint Venus poetry collection has a "pathetic"
  > >aspect,
   > >> >as most poetry in the "navel gazing confessional soap opera
swipe"
   > >> >genre does, but that's actually a part of the *charm* of it,
since
  > >the
   > >> >readers, the target audience of this type of poetry enjoy a bit
of
   > >> >"pathos" mixed in between the jeers, sneers and chair throwing.
   > >>
   > >> Where on the "pathetic, navel gazing confessional soap opera
swipe"
  > >continuum do
   > >> you assess your own writing to fall?
  > >
  > >Pathetic was RJS' word, not mine, but there are obvious elements of
  > >pathos involved with her poems.
  > >
  > >Almost every poem I write has a personal element,
 >
 > wow, dockery, no one else in all of history has ever written a
personal poem.

That's not my problem.

  > >and that, to me,
  > >makes the best poetry. The "navel gazing" reference has in fact been
  > >used in critique of my poetry, and partially where I copped the term
  > >from.
 >
 > so even your insults are original.

That wasn't an insult, but an observation of the kind of poetry RSJ
writes.

  > >In this case, with judging RJS' poetry,
 >
 > which you did after having read just one of her poems.

Nope, I read several, through the link above.

  > >I'm pointing out the hypocrisy
  > >of the standard makers of these newsgroups, Ward, Gas-fly, et al,
who
  > >ordinarily, and usually quite brutally, dismiss the poetry of the
  > >"navel gaze confessional" variety.
 >
 > but it's interesting, drunky. you're the only person who's referred
to Ms.
 > Renay's poetry as navel-gazing.

Her poetry is becoming more widely known, so perhaps someone else will,
since that's obviously what she writes, almost always.

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Karla wrote:
 > In article <1113594559.528872.12700.TakeThisOut@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Will Dockery
 > says...
 >

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Will Dockery wrote:
 > pandora wrote:
 >
  >>"Will Dockery" wrote:
  >>

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Will Dockery wrote:
 > Chandra P Das wrote:
 >
  >>Will Dockery wrote:
  >>
   >>>pandora wrote:
  >>
  >>Take fucking five already, you non-stop-noisy little shit!
 >
 >
 > I think I will, old pal.
 >
 > A lovely afternoon to stroll down to Don's Pub for a drink or two and
 > sharpen up with the billiards geezers.

I like to admit to only one addiction in my life: pool. All through my
undergrad days, I was totally hooked on it. I was even hanging Daddy O's
tuition checks on the games. It's strange because I hate gambling (aside
from black jack and poker), but when it comes to pool, I can't play
unless there's some heavy cash on the line. Since I made up my mind not
to play for money anymore several yrs ago, I've had to quit pool
altogether.

You any good?


 > Do you like Pandora's poetry, though? Seems you accidentally *snipped*
 > it:
 >

Nope, it's very poorly constructed, as if with no mind to flow at all.
The first two lines create potential but the remainder goes nowhere
interesting, either visually, sonically or conceptually.

 > ----
 > From: Will Dockery
 > Subject: ANIMAL GUIDE [my favorite Pandora poem]
 > Newsgroups: rec.arts.poems
 > Date: 2003-12-22 19:03:00 PST
 >
 > ANIMAL GUIDE
 > ------------------------------
 >
 > the crow chose me
 > my animal guide
 > wise perky noisy trickster
 >
 > my hubby thinks it's fitting
 > and so do I
 > for who can ignore a crow
 > noisily cawing
 > proclaiming it's presence
 > or arrogantly strutting through a parking lot
 >
 > and yet
 > it survives and thrives
 > as do I
 >
 > be wary though
 > of the trickster aspect
 > crows can fool you
 >
 > -pandora
 > May 30, 2001
 > ----
 >
 > I find it a reshering change from the "navel-gazing" of the trailer
 > park/soap opera variety we've been inflicted with, and all the
 > hypocritical applause from the gas-fly set.
 >
 > --
 > "I saw a werewolf drinkin' a pina colada at Trader Vic's
 > And his hair was perfect." -Warren Zevon
 >
 > The Netherlands/Shadowville cross cultural exchange
 > project <http://www.kannibaal.nl/shadowville.htm>
 >
 > Autograph Of Zorro" {from *Shadowville Live*}:
 > <http://www.kannibaal.nl/zorro.mp3>
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 > Nope, it's very poorly constructed, as if with no mind to flow at all.

It is called prose, IMO.

The fact that it is chopped up in little unpunctuated lines
doesn't change that.

Even as prose, it would have the possibility of amusement.
This crow didn't.



P


 > The first two lines create potential but the remainder goes nowhere
 > interesting, either visually, sonically or conceptually.
 >
  >> ----
  >> From: Will Dockery
  >> Subject: ANIMAL GUIDE [my favorite Pandora poem]
  >> Newsgroups: rec.arts.poems
  >> Date: 2003-12-22 19:03:00 PST
  >>
  >> ANIMAL GUIDE
  >> ------------------------------
  >>
  >> the crow chose me
  >> my animal guide
  >> wise perky noisy trickster
  >>
  >> my hubby thinks it's fitting
  >> and so do I
  >> for who can ignore a crow
  >> noisily cawing
  >> proclaiming it's presence
  >> or arrogantly strutting through a parking lot
  >>
  >> and yet
  >> it survives and thrives
  >> as do I
  >>
  >> be wary though
  >> of the trickster aspect
  >> crows can fool you
  >>
  >> -pandora
  >> May 30, 2001
  >> ----
  >>
  >> I find it a reshering change from the "navel-gazing" of the trailer
  >> park/soap opera variety we've been inflicted with, and all the
  >> hypocritical applause from the gas-fly set.
  >>
  >> --
  >> "I saw a werewolf drinkin' a pina colada at Trader Vic's
  >> And his hair was perfect." -Warren Zevon
  >>
  >> The Netherlands/Shadowville cross cultural exchange
  >> project <http://www.kannibaal.nl/shadowville.htm>
  >>
  >> Autograph Of Zorro" {from *Shadowville Live*}:
  >> <http://www.kannibaal.nl/zorro.mp3>
  >>



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