The Who's Who of AFT/RABT 2008

Michelle J. Haines wrote:
> Jamie Armstrong wrote:
>> Michelle J. Haines wrote:
>>> Jamie Armstrong wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>>> Ah, the good old days, when every newbie's rite of passage was to be
>>>> called an idiot by the softrat, and when we dared not name the
>>>> Nameless One for fear of calling down His wrath.
>>>
>>> Well, it was bad enough that you almost labeled me a troll, Jamie. :p
>>
>> Me? Really? I'm not sure I've ever accused anyone of trolling, even if
>> they were!
>
> Yeah, really.

Ah well, my apologies.

I do have a temper. I think because it was a somewhat
> polarized argument. Several people supported one side, several on the
> other.

Mmmm... one of *those* debates Things do seem a lot more reasoned
around here: the religious threads have managed to avoid getting heated.

Jamie
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> Welcome back! Are you aware that you are closing in on China Blue's
> record for changing aliases? I count at least five different aliases
> for you since 2000.

I can't even remember my early names on AFT/RABT when I have time I'll
search the archives for a laugh.

Graeme
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> Name/Alias(es):

Jon Lennart Beck/Raven

> Gender:

Male

> Age:

Born 28. of April 1968.

> Nationality:

Norse.

> Posting since:

Since I got my first home internet connection, to my best memory in 1996
or -97. If any are anal enough to want smaller error bars than that, google
it.

> Heroes:

None, not in the sense that I idolize or worship anyone. There are
plenty of people, Tolkien included, whom I think having made the world
better for having lived.

> What are your hobbies and/or interests?:

Reading, particularly non-fiction. Playing primitive computer games.
Voluntary work for the Danish Muscle Dystrophy Foundation, mainly in summer.
Skydiving, if I can get off my fat bleep and start jumping out of a
perfectly good airplane again. The industrialization of space. I have an
ego page on http://hjem.get2net.dk/JonLennartBecksEgoPage .

> What do you dislike?:

Too little physical space to do my job at work...

> How did you discover the works of J.R.R. Tolkien?:

His works have been with me since childhood, but possibly it was when
Mother read The Hobbit to me and many other children when I was seven or
eight.

> Which of J.R.R. Tolkien's books have you read and which is your
> favorite?:

Most of them, I don't really have a favourite. Which wing is the
favourite for the pilot who wants to fly his airplane, the right or the left
one?

> Which is your favorite character from "The Hobbit"? "The Lord of the
> Rings"? "The Silmarillion"?:

Nor do I really have a favourite character.

> Where would you live if you could dwell anywhere in Middle-earth?:

At this season of the year in this country the answer to that is clear
and swift as the river Nimrodel: Ithilien, on the banks of Anduin, near or
at the Ethir - after the war, of course. No good taking a swim in the warm
lovely surf with orc arrows and Haradrim blades everywhere, eager to test
the softness of my hide. In autumn: Rhovanion, following Bilbo's path. For
some reason The Hobbit has a strong feel of woodland autumn to me, and vice
versa.
Any other season: someplace in Eriador, perhaps Bree. Not in Imladris,
though perhaps near it. I would love to visit Lórien, but would possibly
find it irksome to dwell there for years, like having my favourite food five
times a day every day until I didn't only tire of it but also became fatter
than Bombur. As the only Man in Lórien I would at least feel lonely and out
of place, like a sparrow in a crane dance. With a whole crowd of Men, I
would fear to contaminate the land with our presence.

> Which lord would you serve if you lived in Middle-earth? (You can
> choose any of the lords from any of the first three ages.):

I should prefer to serve and be served by none. But if I lived during
the last part of the War of the Ring, and were heroic enough, perhaps
Denethor, as a common soldier of the Tower like Beregond - before Denethor
went mad.

> Have you ever tried to learn to speak or write any of the languages
> that Tolkien invented?:

No, save for a few translations into Elvish here and there, such as when
I translated the name Harry Potter into Quenya ("Pandatur Cemnaro") some
time back.

> Has Tolkien inspired you to write any stories of your own?:

Not to my knowledge - save indirectly (Ajacai).

> Has Tolkien had any impact on the moral choices of your life? (In
> other words, did you recall specific quotes from his works when you
> were trying to figure out what was the right thing to do?):

No. At most he has given better voice to some of my existing sentiments
than I, and on other issues I disagree with him. The prime example of the
former is where Gandalf in effect discusses the death penalty with Frodo,
about Gollum deserving death.

> Would you recommend the works of Tolkien to your friends?:

If they asked, yes. Last I did was when recommending my teenage cousin
to read lots of English, such as Tolkien, if he wanted to become good at
writing it.

> Do you have a favorite Tolkien-related website?:

I check Ardalambion sometimes.

> What is your favorite Tolkien-related reference book?:

Tolkien's own books.

> What other authors has Tolkien inspired you to read?:

None.

> What other authors do you currently enjoy reading?:

Well, there are Pterry, Le Guin, a few science fiction writers - those
who try to keep their subcreated universe as believable to a physics major
as possible. Other than fiction, fx. Jared Diamond. Various unnamed
historians and palaeontologists on Wikipedia.

> Did you enjoy any of the movies about Middle-earth?:

Yes, as partially Tolkien-inspired swords-and-sandals movies, with a
couple of nice hoochies in them.

> Bonus question: Are you friend or foe of TEUNC, the Dark Lord of
> Chaos and Strife?

Neither. But I am friend to some of the TEUNCistas.

Hrafn.
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Morgoth's Curse wrote:

> Name/Alias(es):

T. ten Berge/Taemon

> Gender:

Androgyne

> Age:

37

> Nationality:

Dutch

> Posting since:

Er... first movie? Yeah, I'm one of them movie newbies.

> Heroes:

Edward Ka-Spel, Michael Gira, my physician. Richard Dawkins.

> What are your hobbies and/or interests?:

Gaming, music and animals.

> What do you dislike?:

Mobile phones.

> How did you discover the works of J.R.R. Tolkien?:

My mother worked at a library at the time and brought books home that
were no longer fit to be in the collection (Dutch "written down").
That's how I found the Hobbit when I was a child. I then realised that
"In de ban van de Ring", that had been in my parent's bookcase all my
life, might be a good read.

> Which of J.R.R. Tolkien's books have you read and which is your
> favorite?:

Hobbit, LotR, Silmarillion, Unfished Tales... Father Christmas letters
and the three short stories.

> Which is your favorite character from "The Hobbit"?

Fili/Kili

> "The Lord of the Rings"?

Gollem

> "The Silmarillion"?:

Hm. I don't know. Maybe Melian, despite her taste in men.

> Where would you live if you could dwell anywhere in Middle-earth?:

Minas Tirith. But I surely want to visit Lothlorien and Rivendell!

> Which lord would you serve if you lived in Middle-earth? (You can
> choose any of the lords from any of the first three ages.):

Faramir? Or Galadriel. But that doesn't go too well with the living in
Minas Tirith.

> Have you ever tried to learn to speak or write any of the
> languages that Tolkien invented?:

No, although there was a time I could write in those runes from the
Hobbit.

> Has Tolkien inspired you to write any stories of your own?:

I'm good with words but I'm about as creative as a concrete building.
I don't write.

> Has Tolkien had any impact on the moral choices of your life? (In
> other words, did you recall specific quotes from his works when
> you were trying to figure out what was the right thing to do?):

Not that I know of... it might have happened, of course.

> Would you recommend the works of Tolkien to your friends?:

I tried, I really did!

> Do you have a favorite Tolkien-related website?:

No.

> What is your favorite Tolkien-related reference book?:

Haven't read any of them.

> What other authors has Tolkien inspired you to read?:

I fear it's the other way around; when it says "the new Tolkien!" on
the cover I usually don't bother.

> What other authors do you currently enjoy reading?:

I read so many fantasy, I can't name them all. My latest find is Joe
Abercrombie and I'm a big fan of George R.R. Martin's fantasy series.

> Did you enjoy any of the movies about Middle-earth?:

Oh, yes.

> Bonus question: Are you friend or foe of TEUNC, the Dark Lord of
> Chaos and Strife?

UFAT! UFAT!

T.
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Morgoth's Curse <morgothscurse2002 RemoveThis @nospam.yahoo.com> spoke these
staves:
>
> On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 09:52:35 GMT, Troels Forchhammer
> <Troels RemoveThis @ThisIsFake.invalid> wrote:
>>

<snip>

>> You are still very welcome to put this up at the AFT-RABT site at
>> <http://silenceisdefeat.org/~aft-rabt/>
>
> I meant to ask about that. I thought that you mentioned that you
> were switching to a new server because you were dissatisfied with
> silenceisdefeat.org?

There was a period when it was rather unreliable, but that seems to
have disappeared. I haven't had any problems accessing the site for
months now, so I've put all such plans on hold. I still maintain a
mirror at <http://tolkien.forchhammer.net> (I might some day find the
time to put something extra there, that I want to keep my own
precious <G>).

<snoop>

>> TEUNC (the /true/ TEUNC which may or may not be any more) is
>> always the only /true/ repository of understanding of Tolkien's
>> writings.
>
> You obviously need to acquire more wisdom before you are truly a
> Wise Sage!

It's a good thing about the word 'true' that it has so many meanings
that any connection with actual, and factual, 'Truth' is allowed to
be entirely co-incidental.

I was once a member of that worthy organisation -- back while the
Softrat's piercing wit could be enjoyed there also. Alas I didn't
have time to post anything (though I managed to read the majority),
and so had to leave again. But I do not think that AFT is yet ready
for a Wise Sage who has never been privy to the wit of TEUNC.

--
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Valid e-mail is <troelsfo(a)gmail.com>
Please put [AFT], [RABT] or 'Tolkien' in subject.

Your theory is crazy, but it's not crazy enough to be true.
- Niels Bohr, to a young physicist
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Taemon wrote:

<snip>

>> Which lord would you serve if you lived in Middle-earth? (You can
>> choose any of the lords from any of the first three ages.):
>
> Faramir? Or Galadriel. But that doesn't go too well with the living in
> Minas Tirith.
>
You could always try to persuade Faramir to launch a coup, deposing the
usurper Strider Longshanks who falsely claims the title of King - Long
live the Steward!

It'd make things interesting.

Jamie
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In message <news:flgie9$c8e$1@heffalump.dur.ac.uk>
Jamie Armstrong <J.D.Armstrong RemoveThis @durham.ac.uk> spoke these staves:
>
> Michelle J. Haines wrote:
>> Jamie Armstrong wrote:
>>> Michelle J. Haines wrote:
>>>> Jamie Armstrong wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Ah, the good old days, when every newbie's rite of passage was
>>>>> to be called an idiot by the softrat,

I'm trying to remember the other 'rites' necessary to become a
regular . . . one of them was to have Steuard agree with you, but I
don't recall if there were more.

>>>>> and when we dared not name the Nameless One for fear of calling
>>>>> down His wrath.

I fondly remember a post that was intended to settle the Thrain issue
once and for all. The poster in question set out the entire history
of the Thrains in /The Hobbit/ very carefully and logically (and
actually extremely well), allowing the reader to come to a conclusion
before presenting his own -- which strangely was the opposite of that
the reader would inevitably come to.

>>>> Well, it was bad enough that you almost labeled me a troll,
>>>> Jamie. :p

I seem to remember that you ended up in a few discussions that got
very close to namecalling in the beginning . . . wasn't there
something with AC over the films also?

My, my -- it hasn't always been easy to get through those rites, has
it (I won't tell anything about my first attempts -- in case someone
would start searching)

<snip>

>> I do have a temper.

A bit of innocent whistling seems to be in order here . . .

>> I think because it was a somewhat polarized argument.
>> Several people supported one side, several on the other.
>
> Mmmm... one of *those* debates

I seem to remember that Michelle got herself into a few of the films
debates, and those were definitely some of *those* debates As I
recall them, it was several people supporting one side, a few more on
the other side and the few people trying to investigate the middle
ground quickly being shouted down from both sides . . .

My recollection, although probably not terribly reliable on this
point, is that she argued that Jackson might not be quite that spawn
of utter evil that he was habitually vilified as.

> Things do seem a lot more reasoned around here: the religious
> threads have managed to avoid getting heated.

Almost boring, eh?

Truth be told, I do prefer a debate in which one feels capable of
moving and even conceding a few points without being treated as
either a black betrayer (betrayer! Hah! Maeglin was nothin' compared
to those Jackson apologetics!) or a 'l00ser n00b!'

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Please put [AFT], [RABT] or 'Tolkien' in subject.

The idea that time may vary from place to place is a
difficult one, but it is the idea Einstein used, and it is
correct - believe it or not.
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Morgoth's Curse wrote:
> On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 14:08:19 +0000, Jamie Armstrong
> <J.D.Armstrong.TakeThisOut@durham.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>
>>> Where would you live if you could dwell anywhere in Middle-earth?:
>>>
>> Nowhere: I'd far rather travel around.
>
> With a pick in one hand and a shovel in the other? No barrow
> wight would ever be safe again!
>
You betcha!

Of course, I haven't got the best of singing voices so I may need to
take Tom with me (unless the wights run off with their fleshless hands
over their skulls...).

>>> Has Tolkien inspired you to write any stories of your own?:
>>>
>> Not really. I once wrote a mock paper set a few hundred years after
>> LotR, in which a revisionist historian argued that Aragorn was a
>> usurping tyrant, and that Sauron and Mordor had been misrepresented by
>> the author of the Red Book. But I intended it as a satire on modern
>> history, and wouldn't say it was fan-fic (which doesn't interest me).
>
> Post it here please! We need something new to mock and laugh at! ^_^
>
Ah, well, I will once I get it off my old hard drive - I had a bit of a
computer crisis before Christmas, with my desk-top breaking, and then
windows going screwy on my laptop so I needed to reset it, losing
everything. I don't see the point in fixing my desk-top (it's quite
venerable now, and anyway I don't use it), so I've ordered a hard-drive
enclosure, which is taking a while in arriving...

>>> Has Tolkien had any impact on the moral choices of your life? (In
>>> other words, did you recall specific quotes from his works when you
>>> were trying to figure out what was the right thing to do?):
>>>
>> Oh dear me no. What an idea!
>
> Heretic! < smites Jamie with a heavy leather bound copy of LOTR >

Owww!!! Man that *hurts*!

There are quotes that chime with my view on things, or express what I
believe more eloquently than I could, but they didn't shape my opinion.

>>> What is your favorite Tolkien-related reference book?:
>>>
>> I recently flicked through the Hammond and Scull Reader's Guide, which
>> looked very interesting, but otherwise I rely on my own knowledge.
>
> You should check out The Annotated Hobbit as well.
>
Got it, but not had anything more than a flick through it. I'm looking
forward to getting hold of the John Ratecliffe's Hobbit books, but I'm
waiting for them and the Hammond and Scull book to come out in paperback.

Out of interest, has anyone bought the other Hammond and Scull book, the
'Tolkien Companion and Guide chronology'? I saw it at the same time as
the Guide, and had a flick through that too, but as far as I could tell
it was simply a day-by-day guide to Tolkien's life, which seemed
obsessive even for me! Is there any actual value in it for studying
Middle-earth?

>>> Bonus question: Are you friend or foe of TEUNC, the Dark Lord of
>>> Chaos and Strife?
>>>
>> I'm neither friendly nor foey.
>
> You must choose--but choose wisely. Just as those who oppose TEUNC
> shall earn great reward, so too those who embrace the deceits of Tyope
> shall know unimaginable suffering!
>
Lol!

Jamie
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Troels Forchhammer wrote:
> In message <news:flgie9$c8e$1@heffalump.dur.ac.uk>
> Jamie Armstrong <J.D.Armstrong.RemoveThis@durham.ac.uk> spoke these staves:
>> Michelle J. Haines wrote:
>>> Jamie Armstrong wrote:
>>>> Michelle J. Haines wrote:
>>>>> Jamie Armstrong wrote:
>>>>>> Ah, the good old days, when every newbie's rite of passage was
>>>>>> to be called an idiot by the softrat,
>
> I'm trying to remember the other 'rites' necessary to become a
> regular . . . one of them was to have Steuard agree with you, but I
> don't recall if there were more.

Well, Steuard called me nice in the same thread! So there you go.

> I seem to remember that you ended up in a few discussions that got
> very close to namecalling in the beginning . . . wasn't there
> something with AC over the films also?

mhm. In my defense, I think I usually only got that snappish in
response to other people getting somewhat snappish. In the defense of
the regulars at the time, I think I landed here at the same time as the
wave of nothing-but-movie fanatics, and therefore got 'labeled' and was
working under a negative cloud.

> I seem to remember that Michelle got herself into a few of the films
> debates, and those were definitely some of *those* debates As I
> recall them, it was several people supporting one side, a few more on
> the other side and the few people trying to investigate the middle
> ground quickly being shouted down from both sides . . .
>
> My recollection, although probably not terribly reliable on this
> point, is that she argued that Jackson might not be quite that spawn
> of utter evil that he was habitually vilified as.

I think irritation over the movies was running pretty high, especially
with the influx of movie fans. I was attempting to find a middle ground
in some point-to-point comparison analysis and spinning my wheels in the
mud of "apologist" dismissiveness. Not that I particularly have any
urge to start all that up again, but so many years away from it, we'd
probably have a tamer discussion, with less shouting.

Also, a whole parenting thing got dragged into it out of left field, and
that's never a good place to go.

Michelle
Flutist
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On Jan 1, 8:26 pm, Morgoth's Curse
<morgothscurse2... DeleteThis @nospam.yahoo.com> wrote:
>                 The Who's Who of the Tolkien Newsgroups 2008 *
>
> Name/Alias(es):

Tenworld

> Gender:

M

> Age:

59

> Nationality:

usa

> Posting since:

1993

> Heroes:

Gibbs, House

> What are your hobbies and/or interests?:

hiking, reading newsgroups

> What do you dislike?:

overly critical and pretentious newsgroup contributers

> How did you discover the works of J.R.R. Tolkien?:

my 2nd grade teacher read an excerpt - but I failed to pick up a book
until the pschedelic (cover) version showed up in mid 60s

> Which of J.R.R. Tolkien's books have you read and which is your
> favorite?:

TH, LOTR, TS, some of HOME, I havnt finished UT
the last book of ROTK: the battle and the scouring

> Which is your favorite character from "The Hobbit"?  "The Lord of the
> Rings"? "The Silmarillion"?:

Gandalf, Gandalf, several (TS is not *a* book, it's a collection of
stories)

> Where would you live if you could dwell anywhere in Middle-earth?:

Imladris, although like Legolos I cant stay away from the sea for
long.

> Which lord would you serve if you lived in Middle-earth?  (You can
> choose any of the lords from any of the first three ages.):

Aragon

> Have you ever tried to learn to speak or write any of the languages
> that Tolkien invented?:

the runes (altho not sure what was invented by JRRT and what was taken
from real history)

> Has Tolkien inspired you to write any stories of your own?:

no

> Has Tolkien had any impact on the moral choices of your life?  (In
> other words, did you recall specific quotes from his works when you
> were trying to figure out what was the right thing to do?):

yes

>
> Would you recommend the works of Tolkien to your friends?:

no (if they didn't pick up the books after the movies they weren't
going to like them anyway)

> Do you have a favorite Tolkien-related website?:

no

> What is your favorite Tolkien-related reference book?:

appendeces to ROTK

> What other authors has Tolkien inspired you to read?:

Terry Brooks but mainly to understand how much he cloned

> What other authors do you currently enjoy reading?:

Katherine Kurtz, Dan Obrien

> Did you enjoy any of the movies about Middle-earth?:

yes, lots. I enjoy comparing movies to books and no other comparison
comes close to the depths of LOTR.

>
> Bonus question:  Are you friend or foe of TEUNC, the Dark Lord of
> Chaos and Strife?

who?

> Notes:

I wish Jackson would make a sequel to ROTK and make up his own story
so we can judge him better

>
> *  As modified, edited, revised and mangled by Morgoth's Curse.  I
> omitted any reference to contact information due to concerns about
> Internet security and privacy, but feel free to include that
> information in "Notes" if you wish.
>
> Morgoth's Curse
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I'm sure I don't rank among the who's who of these hallowed halls, but
I'll fill this out anyway, just for fun.

Morgoth's Curse wrote:

> The Who's Who of the Tolkien Newsgroups 2008 *
>
>
> Name/Alias(es):

Zorag.

> Gender:

M.

> Age:

29ish.

> Nationality:

Zoragish. And American.

> Posting since:

On and off (overwhelmingly off) since 1998.

> Heroes:

Hmmm, I don't know.

> What are your hobbies and/or interests?:

Reading, gaming, and choklit.

> What do you dislike?:

Olives, newsgroup flamers, and people at the grocery store who leave
their carts just strewn about in the middle of the parking lot instead
of putting them in the cart return area.

> How did you discover the works of J.R.R. Tolkien?:

My parents gave them to me back before I can remember.

> Which of J.R.R. Tolkien's books have you read and which is your
> favorite?:

All the main ones, only a smattering of HoME, and I keep planning to get
a copy of Father Christmas Letters.

> Which is your favorite character from "The Hobbit"?

Bilbo.

> "The Lord of the Rings"?

Gollum.

"The Silmarillion"?:

Turin, even though he is kind of a jerk.

> Where would you live if you could dwell anywhere in Middle-earth?:

The Shire.

> Which lord would you serve if you lived in Middle-earth? (You can
> choose any of the lords from any of the first three ages.):

I'd live in the Shire, so I wouldn't serve any lord. Ideally I would be
landed gentry and people would serve me.

> Have you ever tried to learn to speak or write any of the languages
> that Tolkien invented?:

The most basic stuff, and that by osmosis not formal study.

> Has Tolkien inspired you to write any stories of your own?:

Yes, but I haven't gotten around to it yet.

> Has Tolkien had any impact on the moral choices of your life? (In
> other words, did you recall specific quotes from his works when you
> were trying to figure out what was the right thing to do?):

Maybe. He has undoubtedly influenced my life outlook, but it is hard to
untangle all the threads of influence, and I do not think any particular
passages in particular have informed any of my choices.

> Would you recommend the works of Tolkien to your friends?:

Who would be friends with someone who hasn't read Tolkien!?

> Do you have a favorite Tolkien-related website?:

I have a bunch of them bookmarked, but no.

> What is your favorite Tolkien-related reference book?:

Fonstad's Atlas.

> What other authors has Tolkien inspired you to read?:

Eddison. No others by direct suggestion, although he has profoundly
affected my aesthetic judgment. I have certainly read other books to
try to recapture some of the magic and sense of wonder. I would have
read Lewis because of Tolkien, except that I had already read some of
Lewis before I knew that they were friends.

> What other authors do you currently enjoy reading?:

Ursula Le Guin, Neil Gaiman, Jack Vance, Peter Beagle, J. K. Rowling,
Garrison Keillor, and Chaim Potok (changing up the genres a bit at the end).

> Did you enjoy any of the movies about Middle-earth?:

I thoroughly enjoyed Peter Jackson's movies. They are great even though
so much of them makes me cringe. I can overlook the bad bits because
the good bits are so good. In my humble opinion, of course.

> Bonus question: Are you friend or foe of TEUNC, the Dark Lord of
> Chaos and Strife?

I used to hang out with that crowd, a long long time ago, although I've
never bowed down before the Alter of Tyope. Nice folks though.


Zorag.
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Morgoth's Curse wrote:

>> Respectively: Balin, multiple, Luthien
>>
> Damn it. Now you have me rereading LOTR in search of the character
> named Multiple! It's no wonder I never find time to post here.

it was Fangorn's, that is Treebeard's, that is Hroombaloombaloometc.'s,
nickname.

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tamf, married to him of the long name.
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Jamie Armstrong wrote:

>>> Me? Really? I'm not sure I've ever accused anyone of trolling, even
>>> if they were!
>>
>> Yeah, really.
>
> Ah well, my apologies.

that doesn't work, i'm afraid. you'll have to be the resident grouch
now, in lieu of theso.

> Mmmm... one of *those* debates Things do seem a lot more reasoned
> around here: the religious threads have managed to avoid getting heated.

people have been discussing balrog wings again?

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tamf.
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