what about escort CLACs?

On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 03:40:33 GMT, SCC: Berrar of the Cache
<matthewsleeman RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:

>Using Mistletoe will not work, it's anti-infrastructure, like pod groups
>for system defense, not anti-shipping and there's NO way to target
>individual components.

That's how it was used because it can't stand up to much in the way of
point defense. How much point defense does a pirate have?
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On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 03:40, Berrar of the Cache wrote:

>This isn't going to work for the Manties, just use normal recon drones,
>couldbe useful for the Havenites, as you can't shoehorn the FTL pulse
>generator into a recon drone.

Umm, the Ghost Rider system is based on Recon platforms
And has FTL pulse generators
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On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 03:40 Berrar of the Cache wrote:

>Using Mistletoe will not work, it's anti-infrastructure, like pod groups
>for system defense, not anti-shipping and there's NO way to target
>individual components.

Well, Mistletoe was able to take out the Peep System Pod control
module responsible for co-ordinating the massive launch system pod
defenses and that would seem to be "individual components" to me.
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On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 03:40 Berrar of the Cache wrote:

>It's the job of the Navy to stop pirates, not civilian shipping lines,
>you get some takers, but not a lot, think Hauptman's Artemis passenger
>liners.
A passenger liner has a bit different responsibilities than a
freighter has. That said, if it was believed that the passenters would
either go free with the ship or die messily at pirate hands ...
It would go back to Freighter-type responsibilities. And it would
likely be best to self-destruct if you could take the pirate with you
after the crew has escaped in shuttles. The line has lost the ship and
cargo anyway (we do not read of ships or cargos being ransomed, ever).
Take the pirates out so that they do not attack the next ship.
>Technodyne Industries has pods in SoS
Yup. Do they have the enhanced launch tubes or are they depending on
the launch size to overwhelm enemy point defense?
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On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 03:40:33 GMT, SCC: Berrar of the Cache
<matthewsleeman RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:

>Just remember the weight of both, OK? A LAC bay is 40,000 tons, I'm
>taking that figure to include the LAC, a destroyer traditionally tops at
>about 90,000 tons, so the bay is too big.
>
Yes
>> Another thought would be mounting the LACs on the hull along with some of
>> the Andies-style missle pods

>LAC's won't work as a strap on, their too big need bays, as above. You'd
>also have to worry about accel. go re-read HoQ.

And without the LAC, you would need a full tech weapons suite and
sensor system which most companies would not pay for and no government
trusts in civvy hands.
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J'hn1 wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 03:40, Berrar of the Cache wrote:
>
>> This isn't going to work for the Manties, just use normal recon drones,
>> couldbe useful for the Havenites, as you can't shoehorn the FTL pulse
>> generator into a recon drone.
>
> Umm, the Ghost Rider system is based on Recon platforms
> And has FTL pulse generators
I meant the Havenites couldn't make FTL comms that small
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J'hn1 wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 03:40 Berrar of the Cache wrote:
>
>> Using Mistletoe will not work, it's anti-infrastructure, like pod groups
>> for system defense, not anti-shipping and there's NO way to target
>> individual components.
>
> Well, Mistletoe was able to take out the Peep System Pod control
> module responsible for co-ordinating the massive launch system pod
> defenses and that would seem to be "individual components" to me.
The system pod defense module was the size of a CA

And about PD for pirates, at lot of the targets hit in raids using
Mistletoe where defenseless, pods and the like, barring the pod
controllers and they had to be swapped and where put into smallest
package possible, I doubt it had ANY internal PD or sidewalls(bubble or
normal) or impellers.
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On Sat, 03 May 2008 07:13:51 GMT, SCC: Berrar of the Cache wrote:

>J'hn1 wrote:
>
>> Well, Mistletoe was able to take out the Peep System Pod control
>> module responsible for co-ordinating the massive launch system pod
>> defenses and that would seem to be "individual components" to me.
>The system pod defense module was the size of a CA
>
>And about PD for pirates, at lot of the targets hit in raids using
>Mistletoe where defenseless, pods and the like, barring the pod
>controllers and they had to be swapped and where put into smallest
>package possible, I doubt it had ANY internal PD or sidewalls(bubble or
>normal) or impellers.

Well, except for commerce raiding (like the peeps, ex-peeps, and
presumably the SKM did) pirates range from fourth class Silesian
government ships doing side jobs and barely armed small hull frigates.
Not exactly cutting edge for PD or stealthing materials.
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