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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2004 9:11 am
Post subject: What happened to Elrond's wife (and Arwen's mum?)
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2004 9:28 am
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In article <8qadnX4005CKhU3cRVn-hA.TakeThisOut@comcast.com>, ms1005.TakeThisOut@netzero.net
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> It's been a few years since I read the novel, but I don't remember any
> mention of her.
Celebrian is her name. She was attacked and captured by Orcs in the
Misty Mountains while traveling between Lorien and Rivendell, and
badly hurt. Her sons rescued her. Elrond healed her, but she got
sick and tired of Middle Earth and passed over the sea.
This adds an edge to Elrond and Arwen's feelings about her marrying
Aragorn. Not only will Elrond never see her again, she will also
never see her mother again, even after death, and Elrond has to
explain to her when he gets there why he showed up without her,
"Well, dear, it was like this...."
Michelle
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2004 1:40 pm
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Michelle J. Haines wrote:
> Celebrian is her name. She was attacked and captured by Orcs in the
> Misty Mountains while traveling between Lorien and Rivendell, and
> badly hurt. Her sons rescued her. Elrond healed her, but she got
> sick and tired of Middle Earth and passed over the sea.
Actually, it's a little more complex than that. Given the general British
reticence of Tolkien to say anything like it outright in no uncertain terms, I
always figured that what had happened to her was gangrape by a small army of
Orcs. And while Elrond healed her, he wasn't able to REALLY HEAL her... much
like with Frodo's wound.
Tony
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2004 5:48 pm
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On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 17:56:13 GMT, Anthony Bryant
<ajbryant.RemoveThis@bloomington.in.usMUNG> wrote:
>Michelle J. Haines wrote:
>
>> Celebrian is her name. She was attacked and captured by Orcs in the
>> Misty Mountains while traveling between Lorien and Rivendell, and
>> badly hurt. Her sons rescued her. Elrond healed her, but she got
>> sick and tired of Middle Earth and passed over the sea.
>
>Actually, it's a little more complex than that. Given the general British
>reticence of Tolkien to say anything like it outright in no uncertain terms, I
>always figured that what had happened to her was gangrape by a small army of
>Orcs. And while Elrond healed her, he wasn't able to REALLY HEAL her... much
>like with Frodo's wound.
>
Why do you preverts always imagine and then broadcast your sickness?
Tolkien never said that orcs had ... uh ... willies. When he said that
they were born after the manner of the Children of Eru, I just assumed
that the female orcs used morphine (and/or screamed).
the softrat
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 12:40 am
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Mushyrodent wrote:
>On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 17:56:13 GMT, Anthony Bryant
><ajbryant.RemoveThis@bloomington.in.usMUNG> wrote:
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>>Michelle J. Haines wrote:
>>
>>> Celebrian is her name. She was attacked and captured by Orcs in the
>>> Misty Mountains while traveling between Lorien and Rivendell, and
>>> badly hurt. Her sons rescued her. Elrond healed her, but she got
>>> sick and tired of Middle Earth and passed over the sea.
>>
>>Actually, it's a little more complex than that. Given the general British
>>reticence of Tolkien to say anything like it outright in no uncertain terms,
>I
>>always figured that what had happened to her was gangrape by a small army of
>
>>Orcs. And while Elrond healed her, he wasn't able to REALLY HEAL her... much
>
>>like with Frodo's wound.
>>
>Why do you preverts always imagine and then broadcast your sickness?
>Tolkien never said that orcs had ... uh ... willies. When he said that
>they were born after the manner of the Children of Eru, I just assumed
>that the female orcs used morphine (and/or screamed).
Don't project.
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